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Post by cyberman Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:45 am

Not really hyperbole but fcuk it, is this the strongest squad of all time?
Wait..dont post the facepalm pic just yet..
building an overall squad is relatively modern. A team from the 90s, say Ajax or AC may have a stonger 11 but from 14 or so, where the players 1st team options or just in case players?
Ac for instance rarely rotated. Could they rest 8 of their first 11 like Utd this season and arguably play better than their first 11?

Barca imo are weak on striker and defender depth.
Madrid need a backup striker themselves and a few competent fullbacks.
I literally dont rate Pepe or Carvalho.

Utd may be weak in realive terms in midfield , but with Anderson and Cleverley playing like demons keeping Carrick and Giggs on the bench..does that matter?
Carrick and Giggs did pi55 on 99% of the big teams they faced last year.

Berbatov ______Chachadorito

Park_____Carrick______Giggs___ Valencia

Fabio_____ Rio______Vidic_______Rafael

Thats a hell of a team thats now in reserve

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Post by Vyey Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:50 am

Strongest squad of all time is pushing it a little bit but it's pretty good. That team ain't even starting. Shocked

We definitely have depth that's for sure.

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Post by buddytaller Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:52 am

The only world class players in this united team are Rooney, Vidic and Evra. Player for player United is behind Manchester City and Chelsea in terms of quality, but they have that winning mentality that keeps them going.
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Post by lszanto Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:00 am

Fairly sure Giggs assisted a few times to beat us last year... But I agree, player for player they are not as strong but as a unit they are freak, the teamwork and work rate is top notch so they are playing like a much much better team.
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Post by cyberman Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:06 am

player for player? what are you basing this on?

Anelka over Nani?
Torres over Rooney?
Kalou over Young?
Mikel over Anderson?
Lampard over Giggs?
Ivanovich over Da Silvas?

What youre doing is judging players by names. Names they dont develop and buy ready made. No coincidence that you named the 2 clubs in England that buy the most names.

Utd are a great team. I hate this whole mantality over crap.

Utds midfield 2 have been great thus far. Young is sensational, Welbeck fantastic with Rooney godly.

But its our mantality....im sorry thats ridiculous.

Mentality doesnt teach City a football lesson, mantality doesnt hand Arsenal their ass.
Mentality doesnt go to London and own Chelsea. Thats out right talent.
WE ARE BETTER THAN THEM

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Post by lszanto Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:13 am

I'm not talking about in comparison chelsea? I'm saying in general they are a young, growing team. IMO the same way Xavi wasn't amazing but when the barca team became a unit they grew as players.

So stop being mad, you completely misunderstood what I was saying...
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Post by juventus101 Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:17 am

United do have an extremely strong squad, but strongest squad ever is pushing it. But with the inclusion of Young now on the left wing, with Nani on the right, Rooney in the middle, and Rio and Vidic holding that backline, they have one of the strongest squads in europe for sure.
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Post by andiii Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:21 am

Haha you can't judge that now. Great team and tactics, but when the seasons only started and city have a chance of winning the league too it's too presumptuous to make these claims

Unless ofc there's some possibility of the "best" squad not winning the league and cl (which is possible utd won't do)
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Post by cyberman Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:30 am

Utd are better than City until they finish above us.
Were the defending champs whove started on fire, City havent earned the right to be mentioned alongside us.
City are not as good as us until proven otherwise, its the other way round.
You have to earn the right

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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:31 am

Amazing to say the least.

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Post by LeSwagg James Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:33 am

Arsenal is in a bad state right now, psychologically and physically (injuries) ... You guys are really good though, but strongest of all time no

I pray to god we get you guys in the CL Very Happy
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Post by LeSwagg James Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:35 am

Btw Rooney would look good in white Razz .. No homo
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Post by cyberman Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:37 am

[quote="juventus101"]United do have an extremely strong squad, but strongest squad ever is pushing it. But with the inclusion of Young now on the left wing, with Nani on the right, Rooney in the middle, and Rio and Vidic holding that backline, they have one of the strongest squads in europe for sure.[/quote]

Yes but squads are a modern aspect, squads till the 80s were nothing, 11 players and a bunch of nobodies.
90s had a bit more squad depth but not much.

It sounds ridiculous..all time...but wheres the competition?

Utd 99 had Blomquist and Butt coverinb the whole midfield. Johnson defence with Phil Neville the only FB cover.
The invincibles had basically the starting 11 plus Grimandi and Parlour

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Post by lszanto Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:39 am

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Post by Guest Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:41 am

LOL @ whoever said Chelsea's squad is better than United's Laughing

It's a pretty damn good squad, but I am confident we'll beat them when we face them in October

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Post by cyberman Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:43 am

Yeah its kneejerk

Maybe i should wait till they win 4 titles in 5 years before i say this, maybe reach 3 CL finals in 4 years or something

God knows thats not the sign of amazing squad depth

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Post by BeautifulGame Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:46 am

cyberman wrote:Utd are better than City until they finish above us.
Were the defending champs whove started on fire, City havent earned the right to be mentioned alongside us.
City are not as good as us until proven otherwise, its the other way round.
You have to earn the right

And Barcelona squad are better than United until United win CL.

/thread.


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Post by LeSwagg James Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:46 am

cyberman wrote:Yeah its kneejerk

Maybe i should wait till they win 4 titles in 5 years before i say this, maybe reach 3 CL finals in 4 years or something

God knows thats not the sign of amazing squad depth

Do you think United will continue to dominate after Sir Alex is gone?
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Post by lszanto Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:49 am

I think barca have proven it has nothing to do with depth. They have very very little depth yet are still the best in the world.

And yes barca would shred both of your "killer lineups".

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Post by lszanto Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:49 am

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Post by cyberman Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:51 am

[quote="BeautifulGame"][quote="cyberman"]Utd are better than City until they finish above us.
Were the defending champs whove started on fire, City havent earned the right to be mentioned alongside us.
City are not as good as us until proven otherwise, its the other way round.
You have to earn the right[/quote]

And Barcelona squad are better than United until United win CL.

/thread.[/quote]
Are you 12?
First 11 in no way equates to squad depth. Plus over 1 game?

WTF?

Barca famously complained about not rotating due to a small squad

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Post by lszanto Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:52 am

Spurs and Arsenal are currently the strongest squads in Europe... Right?
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Post by BeautifulGame Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:53 am

lszanto wrote:I think barca have proven it has nothing to do with depth. They have very very little depth yet are still the best in the world.

And yes barca would shred both of your "killer lineups".


Barca's Very little depth its a myth just like United's last year.Only area they are slightly lacking is CB but then Busquets Abidal and Mascherano have excellent versatility as CB so its eliminated to a large extent.There 2nd choice midfield and attack is far superior to any team bar Madrid.
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Post by lszanto Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:54 am

BeautifulGame wrote:
lszanto wrote:I think barca have proven it has nothing to do with depth. They have very very little depth yet are still the best in the world.

And yes barca would shred both of your "killer lineups".


Barca's Very little depth its a myth just like United's last year.Only area they are slightly lacking is CB but then Busquets Abidal and Mascherano have excellent versatility as CB so its eliminated to a large extent.There 2nd choice midfield and attack is far superior to any team bar Madrid.

Name 3 second choice mids.
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Post by cyberman Mon Aug 29, 2011 5:57 am

[quote="Swagg_Johnson"][quote="cyberman"]Yeah its kneejerk

Maybe i should wait till they win 4 titles in 5 years before i say this, maybe reach 3 CL finals in 4 years or something

God knows thats not the sign of amazing squad depth[/quote]

Do you think United will continue to dominate after Sir Alex is gone? [/quote]

Cant see why not. Sir Alex purposefully delegates a llot of the running ofthe club to others as to not rely on 1 man.
A lot of his signings are from the advice of others.

All well need is a competent replacement

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