Its already JuVidal - 4-2-3-1

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Post by DeviAngel Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:42 pm

Antonio Conte smiles. Yes because its leaves Juve head-on confrontation with the powers of the Milanese. Happy with the result for the game and shopping. Needless to say that the best have been just Vucinic Vidal. The Chilean is training at full capacity with only two days yet Madame ... The do now takes only 45 minutes to downtown, with special thanks to Rome, and providing an assist for the two to kiss one of Matri. If he could create it from nothing Conte would not be able to do so well. Flexible, dynamic, stubborn, tenacious and able to fit in the best spaces. Precisely because of this characteristic, Antonio Conte, against AC Milan host an unprecedented 4-2-3-1, where the number 22 black and white covers the role of playmaker. Less than a month ago, with the national team, had played central defender Arturo Vidal, yesterday in Bari midfielder but he ensures that the position he prefers is that of central midfielder. It is said that those who can do everything he can do anything. With him we must think again.

Cocktail of technique and determination. Biting the ankles of opponents, but kicks like a bomber jacket and brush like a cross number 10. Total Count as he wills. "I thank Arturo Marotta. And 'super!" Gloats the technician. Actually in the first ten minutes, for obvious reasons, like a foreign body on the chessboard stripes, still a little packed and legs. Understandable. What you do not understand is how it can already be so into the spirit of Juve. The desire to show the good things in Italy that makes the marriage in the Bundesliga with Juve based on the same principles. Stroke, quantity and self-sacrifice, these are the dictates of the coach.

Modern and ancient median playmaker, but classy style punk out on the green rectangle. So sweet when the ball is black and white, so the rough so that it can return. Adrenaline and calm. The king who gets his hands dirty. Oxymoron.
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4-2-3-1 I wrote that but deleted yesterday ...and explained that in the macedonian forum
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Post by juventus101 Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:54 pm

With Vucinic starting, a 4231 is pretty much the same thing as a 424. Matri up front, Vucinic slightly behind him, Krasic on the right, and the left still isnt figured out. I still saywe should start Vidal- Marchisio in midfield. They would be dominant. Both are great defensively and offensively. When one attacks the othrr drops back, etc. It would be awesome. And together their passing abilities are good enough to keep Pirlo on the bench unneeded. Pirlo and Quags as super subs? Sounds awesome.
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Post by juventus101 Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:58 pm

This should be our formation, if it was up to me:

----Buffon----
----Lichsteiner---- ----Bonucci---- ----Chiellini---- ----De Ceglie----
-------Vidal------- -------Marchisio-------
-----Krasic----- -----Vucinic----- -----Pasquato-----
------------Matri------------
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Post by S Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:05 pm

juventus101 wrote:With Vucinic starting, a 4231 is pretty much the same thing as a 424. Matri up front, Vucinic slightly behind him, Krasic on the right, and the left still isnt figured out. I still saywe should start Vidal- Marchisio in midfield. They would be dominant. Both are great defensively and offensively. When one attacks the othrr drops back, etc. It would be awesome. And together their passing abilities are good enough to keep Pirlo on the bench unneeded. Pirlo and Quags as super subs? Sounds awesome.

I am sorry but i have a different opinion on this aspect..

Pirlo quite clearly is the best passer of the team..His sleek passing which i witnessed yesterday(although its a friendly) is what is missing in this Juventus team..And really got to commend his decision-making when opposition midfielders try to close him down and without a moment of hesitance delivers precise passes..

I doubt whether Marchisio's playmaking and decision making ability can be as good as pirlo's..I consider Pirlo as a vital cog in Juve's system to be honest..Defensively we all know he's fragile but he still has the vision which juventus desperately need..

Perhaps ,going by yesterday's friendly we can use Marchisio and Pirlo in midfield and Vidal as the link between
midfield and attack..We can get a whole lot of Vidal playing him as a treqaurtista in my opinion since he reveled in that particular position at leverkusen..
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Post by DeviAngel Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:07 pm

juventus101 wrote:This should be our formation, if it was up to me:

----Buffon----
----Lichsteiner---- ----Bonucci---- ----Chiellini---- ----De Ceglie----
-------Vidal------- -------Marchisio-------
-----Krasic----- -----Vucinic----- -----Pasquato-----
------------Matri------------

Yesterday It was


---Motta------Bonucci-----Barzagli------PDC---
-------Pazzienza-------------Maronne---
----Krasic/Rogero-----Vidal-----Vucinic----
---------------------Matri--------------
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Post by juventus101 Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:17 pm

Im not saying and never would sythag marchisios passingis as good or eve will be as good as pirlos, but vidalalso ha good passing, so together I thinktheyd be fine. Pirlos too lazy defensively as well. Marchisio and Vidal are both excellent readers of e game and still great passers intheir own right. I dont thjnkwe need a typical regista starting. Two great passers that are also great defensively pasrtnered together is better thana great passer thats great defensively also partnered with an excellent passer thats lazy defensively in my opinion.
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Post by S Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:29 pm

juventus101 wrote:Im not saying and never would sythag marchisios passingis as good or eve will be as good as pirlos, but vidalalso ha good passing, so together I thinktheyd be fine. Pirlos too lazy defensively as well. Marchisio and Vidal are both excellent readers of e game and still great passers intheir own right. I dont thjnkwe need a typical regista starting. Two great passers that are also great defensively pasrtnered together is better thana great passer thats great defensively also partnered with an excellent passer thats lazy defensively in my opinion.

A world class passer who is defensively a liability + a good passer who likes to do the dirty work in the middle of the pitch + a versatile midfielder who is great defensively and his stats last season also demonstrate his attributes as an attacking midfielder..I think this trio would make for one great combo..

I think we need to make the most use of our midfield resources because thats where i think our strength lies..

I wouldnt want to sacrifise a magnificent passer with unparalleled vision just because he isnt great defensively..Agreed to an extent that there should be emphasis on defensive stability But we have to also consider the fact that Vidal has great work ethic and he will always track back and provide cover for Pirlo defensively..

Thats what Boateng's known to do at Milan..Not only contribute in attack but also provide cover for their midfield which was not the quickest in the previous season..
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Post by C.Marchisio #8 Fri Aug 19, 2011 10:31 pm

I admire Conte the way he tries the best formations for the club.I conclude that he knows that he cant put one of the trio Pirlo Marchisio Vidal on the bench so he tries different formations because he wants to play all three midfielders.Our formation for the next season could be :
Buffon
Lich-Bonbon-Chiellini-PDC
Pirlo-Marchisio
Krasic-Vidal-Vucinic
Matri
This would be that new 4-2-3-1 formation that Conte used against Milan and actually we won that game with that formation.I wouldnt change nothing except new CB coz Bonbon isnt mature yet for starting XI.He showed that he isnt prepared yet
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Post by Zamuro Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:22 pm

Not surprised.

Vidal plays a playmaking role too in Chile's national team.

A 5-2-1-2 with Vidal as the 1 in the formation.
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Post by Katy Perry Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:13 am

do you think that him can play in a 4-4-2 with pirlo?? (i think is 4-4-2, but juve fans and papers name it 4-2-4 just because del neri failed with 4-4-2)

i think also the best formation is the one of juvefanmkd, but i think that sounds more like a 4-3-3 then a 4-2-3-1
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