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Post by StrugaRock Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:57 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
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Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If so, Ronaldo (R9) right now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone

He is overweight and nearing the end of his career.

You are either trolling, or just another delusional poster

Trolling how ? It is the truth, was he not suspended by the club until he lost a lot of weight ? And he is nearing the end of his career. I love R9 though, he was a magical player especially in 2002.

But you are saying that class is permanent, so R9 still better than any other striker out there.
Buffon yes is a great keeper, maybe the best in the history but ATM there are plenty better than him, his injuries have held him back in that aspect.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:58 am

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That statement makes no sense whatsoever. Juventus is still relevant ? What in the world are you talking about.

exactly what i was talking about.

you are not proven, so not relevant yet on the big stage.

you apply that same exact chain of thinking in everything you post about. Buffon need to prove he is still great in a full season, with the team challenging for big things again, we arent talking about Buffon from 06.

you dont get a pass because once upon a time you are great. ronnie is a shell of his former self, is he the best player in the world even now? no.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:00 am

StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
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JuvenelCuore wrote:
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JuvenelCuore wrote:
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JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If so, Ronaldo (R9) right now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone

He is overweight and nearing the end of his career.

You are either trolling, or just another delusional poster

Trolling how ? It is the truth, was he not suspended by the club until he lost a lot of weight ? And he is nearing the end of his career. I love R9 though, he was a magical player especially in 2002.

But you are saying that class is permanent, so R9 still better than any other striker out there.
Buffon yes is a great keeper, maybe the best in the history but ATM there are plenty better than him, his injuries have held him back in that aspect.

Yes but you are comparing a player who has had injuries while playing at the top level with 6-8 years left in his career to an aging player who is nearing the end of his career and has not played in the top level since 2007-2008, and even then, he was not exactly the old R9 reveered as a legend.
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Post by The Verminator Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:05 am

Szczesny! Szczesny! Szczesny!

Ok well he shouldn't be there right now but in just a few seasons he will! Plus he has a cool name
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Post by Adit Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:57 am

Van der sar conceded two goals from out side the box and one from near the line against barca,does that make him a GK with poor reflexes? explain please.

Again casillas saved two one on one with fraking messi,while valdes didnt really had anything to stop,although he failed to handle ronaldos shot wich hit the bar,barca CBs protected their goal well but our CBs give it upto casillas alone.
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Post by tonger Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:03 am

Sushi Master wrote:Abiatti has impressed me in every match I've seen him. Storari is also very underrated.

The rest are pretty obvious.

Also, Szczęsny has been very *bleep* awesome (yes, I googled it Very Happy)

my god finally some non-milan fan notice abiatti is more than just a regular keeper, (especially this past season imo)
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Post by Drogbot Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:09 am

cassilas is so damn overrated. it's only because he captains real madrid and spain that he gets called the best keeper in the world. he's not the best and has never has been in his career. i don't care many of these iffhs or fifapro best keeper awards he's won. it's his false reputation that won it for him. i've seen him make so many terrible mistakes in his career. no way he can be the best. but unfortunately he will be remembered as a legend because of the trophies he has.

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Post by zarola Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:12 am

ITT Buffon isnt as good anymore because he wasnt able to play because of injury.

Preinjury Buffon was the best in the world. Post injury theres not enough time to judge. How can you say plenty are better/worse? We're unable to judge his current form because it is nonexistant.

leave buffon out of it to prevent arguments that cant be proven/disproven

If Casillas were in Italy his career would be ruined because they wouldnt give him a second chance for errors.
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Post by the xcx Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:14 am

Drogbot wrote:cassilas is so damn overrated. it's only because he captains real madrid and spain that he gets called the best keeper in the world. he's not the best and has never has been in his career. i don't care many of these iffhs or fifapro best keeper awards he's won. it's his false reputation that won it for him. i've seen him make so many terrible mistakes in his career. no way he can be the best. but unfortunately he will be remembered as a legend because of the trophies he has.
u mad? ya u mad.
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Post by Drogbot Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:25 am

The xcx wrote:
Drogbot wrote:cassilas is so damn overrated. it's only because he captains real madrid and spain that he gets called the best keeper in the world. he's not the best and has never has been in his career. i don't care many of these iffhs or fifapro best keeper awards he's won. it's his false reputation that won it for him. i've seen him make so many terrible mistakes in his career. no way he can be the best. but unfortunately he will be remembered as a legend because of the trophies he has.
u mad? ya u mad.



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Post by Adit Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:28 am

a barca fan with drogba name ,same old one we had in old forum Laughing
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Post by ChollaVille Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:23 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

Buffon??? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This is not year 2006.
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Post by EarlyPrototype Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:08 pm

Casillias

everyone else
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Post by Doc Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:27 pm

When I see Real Madrid drop him and Spain decide he isn't starting material quality, then I would safely say, he is not that good. Until then, I would beg to differ...
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Post by Vibe Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:55 pm

Casillas is one of the most brilliant shot-stoppers I've seen...
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Post by billionmillion Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:21 am

now its valdes (if we dont count his crosses to alves)
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Post by Lord Hades Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:22 am

and ironically iker saved us countless times at the camp nou Rolling Eyes
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Post by hecticfootballer Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:14 pm

diptiman wrote:and ironically iker saved us countless times at the camp nou Rolling Eyes

i agree casillas would be better off as a wicket keeper.

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Post by harhar11 Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:06 pm

The xcx wrote:Not sure if OP understands how hard it is to save 1v1 situations. Valdez is the only one whos being overrated. Define good goal keeper, pls Rolling Eyes

Casillas overrated? atm, casillas is the one who is the most overrated of the two. He has had 2-3 season where he has commited lots of mistake for a top keeper while valdes has been almost mistake free.

Just watch valdes vs real madrid, where I don't know how many goals he saved...

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Post by guest7 Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:14 pm

harhar11 wrote:
The xcx wrote:Not sure if OP understands how hard it is to save 1v1 situations. Valdez is the only one whos being overrated. Define good goal keeper, pls Rolling Eyes

Casillas overrated? atm, casillas is the one who is the most overrated of the two. He has had 2-3 season where he has commited lots of mistake for a top keeper while valdes has been almost mistake free.

Just watch valdes vs real madrid, where I don't know how many goals he saved...

Just watch Casillas vs Barca. He has made more saves than Valdes and you can't just ignore how many times he has saved us from total humiliation.
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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:06 pm

ChollaVille wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

Buffon??? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
This is not year 2006.

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

Though you have no class given your comment. :coffee:

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Post by 7amood11 Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:48 pm

OK, regarding the Buffon question, RIGHT NOW (and I mean right now as in last season), I just can't put Buffon in the top 5, as much as I hate saying it.

Last season he didn't start much at all because of injury, and when he did start, he was good, but wasn't back to his form we remember from the days of 2006.

I'd say that I put Neuer, Valdes, Casillas, Reina and a few other goalkeepers ahead of Buffon if I were to rank them on their last season performances.

I think that Buffon can and will return to his best this season or the one after. He's still one of the best goalkeepers of all time in my eyes though, just as good as if not better than Yashin and Kahn.




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Post by JuvenelCuore Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:51 pm

Zoff > Gigi > else.
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Post by juve_gigi Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:49 pm

JuvenelCuore wrote:Zoff > Gigi > else.

If Gigi can play at a high level until he is 40, then he will be greater than Zoff. Hopefully he is fully recovered from his injury and has a great year. Also, Gigi will play in at least one more world cup and maybe 2 euro cups so he has a chance to get more hardware. If we wns 2 world cups then Gigi should be considered the greatest ever.
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Post by Vyey Sun Aug 21, 2011 8:06 am

Michael Vorm :coffee:

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Post by Toffer Harley Sun Aug 21, 2011 1:35 pm

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