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Post by IAmManUnited Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:28 am

Honestly not that great keepers when in one on one situations, i can understand valdes, but iker isnt that great either.
Both a tidy bit overated
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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:28 am

Very, very overrated. Iker Casillas makes a ton of mistakes and even so, he is constantly embarrassed. Montolivo and Messi both destroyed him in the span of two weeks. Even Iniesta.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:29 am

what do you have to do to be considered a good keeper nowadays? i wonder

overrated with respect to who?

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Post by the xcx Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:32 am

Not sure if OP understands how hard it is to save 1v1 situations. Valdez is the only one whos being overrated. Define good goal keeper, pls Rolling Eyes
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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:33 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:what do you have to do to be considered a good keeper nowadays? i wonder

overrated with respect to who?

inbeforebuffonizdabest

No in before, my post implied it. :coffee:
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Post by Sir Psycho Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:38 am

I can't hate on them they've both maintained their spots for some time Casillas has been there for over a decade, Valdes nearly a decade. They've both had their moments so I understand where your coming from. Iker lost form 00-02, while Barca started to look elsewhere a few years back because Valdes was a liability. But hey their both still in goal, and there's no one else really breathing down there necks for playing time. I'd still take a "healthy" Gigi Buffon over the two of them though.
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Post by Khaled Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:40 am

So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!
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Post by Albiceleste Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:41 am

Valdes? Overrated? Laughing

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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:43 am

Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes
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Post by Albiceleste Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:45 am

Valdes is better than Casillas, how is that not obvious? He has been for 2-3 seasons now.

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Post by Sir Psycho Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:46 am

Lionel Messi wrote:Valdes is better than Casillas, how is that not obvious? He has been for 2-3 seasons now.

He'd have more than 4 caps if he was better.
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Post by lszanto Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:46 am

Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

Neuer
Cech
Hart
Reina
Handanovic
Begovic(jerking Laughing )
Buffon
Mandela
Lloris
Abate(he can play in goal right?)
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Post by Khaled Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:47 am

what did Neuer acheive to be better than Valdes & Casillas?

yeah he does make some gd saves.. BUt in same match he has like 2 big mistakes, that cost his team goals!!

Lloris is gd.. but not better than these 2?

Buffon @ peak, for sure he is.. but rightnow? i don't agree!!


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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:47 am

lszanto wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

Neuer
Cech
Hart
Reina
Handanovic
Begovic(jerking Laughing )
Buffon
Mandela
Lloris
Abate(he can play in goal right?)

Absurd. Truly absurd.
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Post by StrugaRock Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:47 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now
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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:48 am

StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.
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Post by StrugaRock Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:50 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If so, Ronaldo (R9) right now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
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Post by Sushi Master Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:50 am

Abiatti has impressed me in every match I've seen him. Storari is also very underrated.

The rest are pretty obvious.

Also, Szczęsny has been very *bleep* awesome (yes, I googled it Very Happy)
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Post by Albiceleste Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:51 am

Sir_Psycho_Sexy91 wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Valdes is better than Casillas, how is that not obvious? He has been for 2-3 seasons now.

He'd have more than 4 caps if he was better.
That's not about quality its about politics.

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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:51 am

StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If so, Ronaldo (R9) right now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone

He is overweight and nearing the end of his career.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:51 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

that's the same reasoning that have you thinking Juventus is still relevant, altho not proven.

delusion
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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:53 am

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

that's the same reasoning that have you thinking Juventus is still relevant, altho not proven.

delusion

That statement makes no sense whatsoever. Juventus is still relevant ? What in the world are you talking about.
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Post by StrugaRock Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:54 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If so, Ronaldo (R9) right now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone

He is overweight and nearing the end of his career.

You are either trolling, or just another delusional poster
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Post by JuvenelCuore Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:54 am

StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If so, Ronaldo (R9) right now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone

He is overweight and nearing the end of his career.

You are either trolling, or just another delusional poster

Trolling how ? It is the truth, was he not suspended by the club until he lost a lot of weight ? And he is nearing the end of his career. I love R9 though, he was a magical player especially in 2002.
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Post by StrugaRock Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:57 am

JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
StrugaRock wrote:
JuvenelCuore wrote:
Khaledbarca wrote:So who are the best GKs in the World rightnow?

make a top 5 or 10 list!

1. Gigi Buffon
2. Manuel Neuer
3. Hugo Lloris
4. Iker Casillas
5. Victor Valdes

He said right now, Buffon hadn't had a full season for two years now

Form is temporary, class is permanent.

If so, Ronaldo (R9) right now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone

He is overweight and nearing the end of his career.

You are either trolling, or just another delusional poster

Trolling how ? It is the truth, was he not suspended by the club until he lost a lot of weight ? And he is nearing the end of his career. I love R9 though, he was a magical player especially in 2002.

But you are saying that class is permanent, so R9 still better than any other striker out there.
Buffon yes is a great keeper, maybe the best in the history but ATM there are plenty better than him, his injuries have held him back in that aspect.
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