The statistics that shows ozil was better than or more effective to xavi and iniesta.

Lol I don't support neither one of these teams, but to say Ozil better then Xavi who is in a different position or even that he's better then intiesta is a huge lol!!! Plastics need to stop overhyping their players and watch other teams because some of these threads are pointless!!!

sportsczy wrote:When you talk about the best midfield playmakers... you talk about their impact on the pace of the game. The best ones i've ever seen, Platini and Zidane (no bias lol), just set the tempo and forced the opponent to chase them around.

Ozil is very good. But he's really a last 1/3 player right now mostly. To me, he's more like another forward than a midfielder. This is where he needs to grow.

Did someone just say impact on the pace of the game and Zidane being the best at it.
No he was not.Nor was Platini.
I will give u a hint.Its a certain dimunitive midfielder from Barca.

alexjanosik wrote:

sportsczy wrote:When you talk about the best midfield playmakers... you talk about their impact on the pace of the game. The best ones i've ever seen, Platini and Zidane (no bias lol), just set the tempo and forced the opponent to chase them around.

Ozil is very good. But he's really a last 1/3 player right now mostly. To me, he's more like another forward than a midfielder. This is where he needs to grow.

Did someone just say impact on the pace of the game and Zidane being the best at it.
No he was not.Nor was Platini.
I will give u a hint.Its a certain dimunitive midfielder from Barca.

Eventhough i know that it is Xavi you are pertaining to. But i will say Laudrup?

Many people are beginning to form excuses.dont be scared, say something.ozil was better especially in his debut season and he will succeed where xavi and iniesta failed.deal with it.

Jack Daniels wrote:

alexjanosik wrote:

sportsczy wrote:When you talk about the best midfield playmakers... you talk about their impact on the pace of the game. The best ones i've ever seen, Platini and Zidane (no bias lol), just set the tempo and forced the opponent to chase them around.

Ozil is very good. But he's really a last 1/3 player right now mostly. To me, he's more like another forward than a midfielder. This is where he needs to grow.

Did someone just say impact on the pace of the game and Zidane being the best at it.
No he was not.Nor was Platini.
I will give u a hint.Its a certain dimunitive midfielder from Barca.

Eventhough i know that it is Xavi you are pertaining to. But i will say Laudrup?

Riquelme perhaps? (tbf this is something he excelled at)

paperbackwriter wrote:I don't think the statistical comparison is fair... Since both Iniesta and Xavi last year moved even more in the direction of being Messis sidekicks/support. Everything is supposed to go through Messi, he's supposed to be the one getting in position to hit the final ball or finish almost every attack.

But I do think if you switched Iniesta for Özil, neither teams would drop or gain much in quality. They are pretty equal in my book. Özil wouldn't struggle in Barcelonas possession football and Iniesta wouldn't struggle in the more direct style of Madrid.

I lol'd hard at Iniesta = Ozil hahahahahhahahaha

Madrid fans need to get a frakking grip. Ozil has had a decent season. Xavi and Iniesta are instrumental in their sides winning two champions leaguues, a European championaship and a damn WC. Ozil disappeared in the el classicos except for the one when he came on as a SUB. Comparing ozil to either of these two is frankly a disgrace. Xavi is not even barcas playmaker, Ozil is not WC till has played at the highest leve for three seasons. Some of you Madrid fans are a joke, Marcelo is the best LB in the world after having HALF a decent season yet Casillas still remains better than Valdes even though Valdes has been better than him the last three seasons. Double standard much? This thread is a joke. Next thing you'll tell me Ozil is better than Messi at this rate. According to ou guys Chicharito is better than Drogba and torres seeing as he did better than them both this season and was good in the WC as well. Unfuckingbeliveable.

jibers wrote:Madrid fans need to get a frakking grip. Ozil has had a decent season. Xavi and Iniesta are instrumental in their sides winning two champions leaguues, a European championaship and a damn WC. Ozil disappeared in the el classicos except for the one when he came on as a SUB. Comparing ozil to either of these two is frankly a disgrace. Xavi is not even barcas playmaker, Ozil is not WC till has played at the highest leve for three seasons. Some of you Madrid fans are a joke, Marcelo is the best LB in the world after having HALF a decent season yet Casillas still remains better than Valdes even though Valdes has been better than him the last three seasons. Double standard much? This thread is a joke. Next thing you'll tell me Ozil is better than Messi at this rate. According to ou guys Chicharito is better than Drogba and torres seeing as he did better than them both this season and was good in the WC as well. Unfuckingbeliveable.

I have + reputation'd your post because I agree with it.

Messi why did you change your age from 22 to 20?

english_jewel wrote:Messi why did you change your age from 22 to 20?

I haven't changed it

I like the “Ozil will succeed where Iniest and Xavi failed” comment

jibers wrote:Madrid fans need to get a frakking grip. Ozil has had a decent season. Xavi and Iniesta are instrumental in their sides winning two champions leaguues, a European championaship and a damn WC. Ozil disappeared in the el classicos except for the one when he came on as a SUB. Comparing ozil to either of these two is frankly a disgrace. Xavi is not even barcas playmaker, Ozil is not WC till has played at the highest leve for three seasons. Some of you Madrid fans are a joke, Marcelo is the best LB in the world after having HALF a decent season yet Casillas still remains better than Valdes even though Valdes has been better than him the last three seasons. Double standard much? This thread is a joke. Next thing you'll tell me Ozil is better than Messi at this rate. According to ou guys Chicharito is better than Drogba and torres seeing as he did better than them both this season and was good in the WC as well. Unfuckingbeliveable.

i feel your pain,but its okay,perhaps you didnt get the message but your point is well noted. No one says ozil is better,rather was more effective in his first season which surpassed that of xavi and iniesta in their debut season by a life time margin. Besides,ozil is 22+,far more younger than both so which means at this rate he will win the baloon d'or before he even gets to 25years which ofcourse was why i said he will succeed where xavi and iniesta failed cos they will never win the baloon d'or in their life as they are past it because of that 'mickey mouse'. Perhaps xavi will win it when he joins the MLS next two seasons. Deal with it.

So Ozil will win the Ballon d’or because he had a better season at 23 than Xavi and Iniesta had at that age.
I can’t decide if this statement is funny or sad.

Then agin Fabregas has been better than both at 22. Sahin the same. Hazard as well. The list is endless.
My god… so many Ballon d’or winners who will succeed where those two loosers failed….

Ozil is humble and respectful.

Well... in the future.

emassy wrote:

jibers wrote:Madrid fans need to get a frakking grip. Ozil has had a decent season. Xavi and Iniesta are instrumental in their sides winning two champions leaguues, a European championaship and a damn WC. Ozil disappeared in the el classicos except for the one when he came on as a SUB. Comparing ozil to either of these two is frankly a disgrace. Xavi is not even barcas playmaker, Ozil is not WC till has played at the highest leve for three seasons. Some of you Madrid fans are a joke, Marcelo is the best LB in the world after having HALF a decent season yet Casillas still remains better than Valdes even though Valdes has been better than him the last three seasons. Double standard much? This thread is a joke. Next thing you'll tell me Ozil is better than Messi at this rate. According to ou guys Chicharito is better than Drogba and torres seeing as he did better than them both this season and was good in the WC as well. Unfuckingbeliveable.

i feel your pain,but its okay,perhaps you didnt get the message but your point is well noted. No one says ozil is better,rather was more effective in his first season which surpassed that of xavi and iniesta in their debut season by a life time margin. Besides,ozil is 22+,far more younger than both so which means at this rate he will win the baloon d'or before he even gets to 25years which ofcourse was why i said he will succeed where xavi and iniesta failed cos they will never win the baloon d'or in their life as they are past it because of that 'mickey mouse'. Perhaps xavi will win it when he joins the MLS next two seasons. Deal with it.

How did Ozil have a better season than either of them? Ozil was no where to be found in big games and didn't win nearly as much as Xavi or Iniesta. Oh wait he had a better season 'by a life time margin' because he had more assists right? LOL

This thread and post is completely laughable.

Btw, that wasn't Ozil's debut season, he played at other clubs before that.

and what exactly are we supposed to deal with? The amount of lulz ensuing from your post?

billy_gr wrote:So Ozil will win the Ballon d’or because he had a better season at 23 than Xavi and Iniesta had at that age.
I can’t decide if this statement is funny or sad.

Then agin Fabregas has been better than both at 22. Sahin the same. Hazard as well. The list is endless.
My god… so many Ballon d’or winners who will succeed where those two loosers failed….

i suppose u are well learned,else you need 2 go back again trust me. Fabregas was promising,but his lack of major trophies and injuries,not a regular for his country and sometimes inconsistency is an indictment to his career. Sahin is young too,he won the bundesliga,bundeliga player of the year and that is a plus,but he needs more silverwares,development and consistency,the only problem is his country. Ozil will win the baloon d'or but i said "IF HE CONTINUES AT THIS RATE",no biased mind. Thats what i said,and there is nothing for you to be angry about.lol.

Lionel Messi wrote:

emassy wrote:

jibers wrote:Madrid fans need to get a frakking grip. Ozil has had a decent season. Xavi and Iniesta are instrumental in their sides winning two champions leaguues, a European championaship and a damn WC. Ozil disappeared in the el classicos except for the one when he came on as a SUB. Comparing ozil to either of these two is frankly a disgrace. Xavi is not even barcas playmaker, Ozil is not WC till has played at the highest leve for three seasons. Some of you Madrid fans are a joke, Marcelo is the best LB in the world after having HALF a decent season yet Casillas still remains better than Valdes even though Valdes has been better than him the last three seasons. Double standard much? This thread is a joke. Next thing you'll tell me Ozil is better than Messi at this rate. According to ou guys Chicharito is better than Drogba and torres seeing as he did better than them both this season and was good in the WC as well. Unfuckingbeliveable.

i feel your pain,but its okay,perhaps you didnt get the message but your point is well noted. No one says ozil is better,rather was more effective in his first season which surpassed that of xavi and iniesta in their debut season by a life time margin. Besides,ozil is 22+,far more younger than both so which means at this rate he will win the baloon d'or before he even gets to 25years which ofcourse was why i said he will succeed where xavi and iniesta failed cos they will never win the baloon d'or in their life as they are past it because of that 'mickey mouse'. Perhaps xavi will win it when he joins the MLS next two seasons. Deal with it.

How did Ozil have a better season than either of them? Ozil was no where to be found in big games and didn't win nearly as much as Xavi or Iniesta. Oh wait he had a better season 'by a life time margin' because he had more assists right? LOL

This thread and post is completely laughable.

Btw, that wasn't Ozil's debut season, he played at other clubs before that.

and what exactly are we supposed to deal with? The amount of lulz ensuing from your post?

I said his debut season with realmadrid in the la liga and stop finding simple english to understand nr maxbe u are dutch or something.if you wanna talk,how about xavi and iniesta's 1st season in la liga with barca?

Milan Fan: If Pato continues with that rate he will be the best FW ever
Barca fan: If Thiago continues with that rate will be the best CM ever
Arsenal fan: If Wilshere continues with that rate will be the best CM ever
Etc….

You get what I mean.
It could happen but the chances are the same as every other gifted youngster

emassy wrote:
dummie,i said his debut season with realmadrid in the la liga and stop finding simple english to understand nr maxbe u are dutch or something.if you wanna talk,how about xavi and iniesta's 1st season in la liga with barca?

How is that relevant? Both Iniesta and Xavi came from the youth sector and both were slowly but surely introduced into the first team, completely different circumstances to that of Mesut Ozil, who was already an established BundasLiga player and a starter for Germany before his transfer to Real, filled with Wc players all around him and with supposedly the best coach in the world already in place...

is there such thing as being a la ligaface?

Rossoneri Ninja wrote:

emassy wrote:
dummie,i said his debut season with realmadrid in the la liga and stop finding simple english to understand nr maxbe u are dutch or something.if you wanna talk,how about xavi and iniesta's 1st season in la liga with barca?

How is that relevant? Both Iniesta and Xavi came from the youth sector and both were slowly but surely introduced into the first team, completely different circumstances to that of Mesut Ozil, who was already an established BundasLiga player and a starter for Germany before his transfer to Real, filled with Wc players all around him and with supposedly the best coach in the world already in place...

It wasn't meant for you,so i expect it to be irrelevant. But if you think you know what i meant it for,and it still remains irrelevant,then you need to be more learned.trust me.

Ozil at 22 years is not at the level of either Xavi (31) or Iniesta (27) but it not hard to see that he is awfully talented and is fast catching up on the two. Ozil's assist and general contribution to the attack cannot be underestimated, he has shown a lot of consistency from Werder Bremen through to the World Cup with Germany, and throughout last season with Madrid.




To think of it Xavi was not considered a world class player until he was 28 years or so and Iniesta around 24, so Ozil is certainly on the right track to being among the best in the world at the young age of just 22.

buddytaller wrote:Ozil at 22 years is not at the level of either Xavi (31) or Iniesta (27) but it not hard to see that he is awfully talented and is fast catching up on the two. Ozil's assist and general contribution to the attack cannot be underestimated, he has shown a lot of consistency from Werder Bremen through to the World Cup with Germany, and throughout last season with Madrid.




To think of it Xavi was not considered a world class player until he was 28 years or so and Iniesta around 24, so Ozil is certainly on the right track to being among the best in the world at the young age of just 22.

thank you for coming to my rescue.some have found the grammar hard to understand and i am happy you have done just that. Surely,im not the only one with this opinion.

Özil atm has 99 scoring points, not to shabby for a 22 year old..

im sure ozil and sahin will make their territory.

the two turkish gods.

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