Re: England is not n never been a football powerhouse

by Ganso Thu Jul 28, 2011 12:05 am

*cough* brazil?im sorry,but we have won 5 trophies in the last decade(1 WC).+ Italy in 06?

We have all the credit to lose once in a while.

Argentina is a fail national team,so you can ride on them whenever you like :coffee:

by stunt Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:39 am

Arsenalfaithfull wrote:They were a force to be reconed with between96-2004 in my opinion. England being overrated is such a lazy statement at this point. When in reality, other "power houses" have failed to deliver time in and again aswell. *cough* Brazil, Argentina, Italy

This is another case of Europe aimlessly hatin on England.
Note that i did not say they are going to win the wc or the Euros anytime soon, but then Neither are Brazil or Argentina. (and they sure as hell would not win the euro if they were to participate in it somehow)

Were they? I remember England in the Euro 2000 getting completely raped 3-0 by Portugal's reserves.

by pelican_man Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:46 am

england are are such a retarded football team. they should put on a benny hill theme in the background when they play.

by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 28, 2011 2:59 am

England hate is overrated. They have class players, class players usually play good games.

Will be one of the only times I admit to it though Laughing

by BeautifulGame Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:16 am

^ I see empathy from an Argentinian fan Razz

by FennecFox7 Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:22 am

^ and from an algerian fan as well. Honestly, they were just stiffled vs us in the WC because we are an exact check to englands game plan. We have more skill, are just as strong, lobbing the ball doesn't work because all our players can head the ball like bosses, and that day it was our day.

by BeautifulGame Thu Jul 28, 2011 3:33 am

^Honestly England's struggle in world cup group stage (inculding Algeria) has a lot to do with incompetence of Capello IMO.

Not taking any credit from Algeria but if Capello played players in their regular position they would have had a better world cup IMO.

by B-Mac Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:03 am

^^

BUT GERRARD ON THE WING MAKES TOTAL SENSE.... :lol!:

by BeautifulGame Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:07 am

As does taking SWP and Heskey ahead of Young and Bent.

Laughing

by Gil Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:09 am

Or playing clowns like Robert Green and David James ahead of Joe Hart.

by B-Mac Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:12 am

Gil wrote:Or playing clowns like Robert Green and David James ahead of Joe Hart.

this!!!! omg maybe the worst squad decision of last years world cup...especially after the showing Hart had for U-21's the year before

by B-Mac Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:17 am

BeautifulGame wrote:As does taking SWP and Heskey ahead of Young and Bent.

ya lol 2 starting XI players for there clubs orrrr 2 bench players hmmmm decisions decisions fabio

by Guest Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:19 am

Bringing Heskey on when they were trailing 4-1 Laughing

but tbh...Remember how everyone was saying Joe Cole is the MESSIAH of England and if England play him as LW, all the problems will be solved ?

Joke Hole Laughing

by BeautifulGame Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:19 am

And Also having Mattew Upson anywhere near england squad let alone playing against Germany.

Its just weird how many stupid decision Capello made during world cup.Unlike during Eriksson coaching the blame for England's world cup last time lies more on Capello than players this time around IMO.

by B-Mac Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:28 am

while on topic of england players....how highly do you guys rate Matt Jarvis of Wolves....think he will ever be a England NT player?....something about his game i like

by Guest Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:31 am

B-Mac MUFC wrote:while on topic of england players....how highly do you guys rate Matt Jarvis of Wolves....think he will ever be a England NT player?....something about his game i like

One of very few traditional wingers left in the league (like likes of Albrighton, Downing, Valencia, Ethrington, n them) ....I think he has a great cross, actually had the most successful crosses in the league last season after Nani and Downing. and quite young.

I like the fact that he is direct .....I reckon he'll get more recognition once he either scores against a top team or adds some trickery to his play. Reckon he needs a step up to a mid-table team first...someone like Everton

by BeautifulGame Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:44 am

B-Mac MUFC wrote:while on topic of england players....how highly do you guys rate Matt Jarvis of Wolves....think he will ever be a England NT player?....something about his game i like

One of the few traditionals wingers in the league and good crosser of the ball.I like him too but cant see him being a regular for England NT.

by Gil Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:13 am

Cleverley
Welbeck
Sturridge
McEachran
Smalling
Phil Jones
Ross Barkley
Jack Wilshere
Marc Albrighton
Andy Carroll
Kyle Walker
Kieron Gibbs

Nowhere near enough but great to see some fantastic English talent coming through.

by justdoit_ Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:16 am

Cue obligatory "we've seen this 100 times, you're overhyped, suck, and will bomb out in penalties" comment.

by Abramovich Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:17 am

Looking at the OP how can you support both Roma and Inter silent

by Arquitecto Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:18 am

Gil wrote:Cleverley
Welbeck
Sturridge
McEachran
Smalling
Phil Jones
Ross Barkley
Jack Wilshere
Marc Albrighton
Andy Carroll
Kyle Walker
Kieron Gibbs
Jenkinson
Henri Lansbury
Martin Kelly
Jay Spearing
Raheem Sterling
Oxlaide-Chamberlain
Jack Robinson
Jordan Henderson
John Flanagan
Jonjo Shelvey
Conor Coady

Nowhere near enough but great to see some fantastic English talent coming through.

Just a few names you've missed Gil.

Get with the times. Smile

by Arsenalfaithfull Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:39 am

add frimpong there as the dm...he will eventually pick England... i can see it (unless if he has already been capped).

by Mat_Hadder Tue Aug 23, 2011 7:37 am

LOL England can have talented players all they want but it has never worked out for them before, and it isn't going to happen anytime soon

by Toffer Harley Tue Aug 23, 2011 12:47 pm

Mat_Hadder wrote:LOL England can have talented players all they want but it has never worked out for them before, and it isn't going to happen anytime soon

yup, their "golden generation" is gone and their current talents still have a long way to go. but the lower expectations might do them some good.

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