The Missing Link : Nuri Sahin

Did i mention how this kid was my favorite young midfielder out there

cant wait to see him turn it up

Still boring... lateral passes, forward passes were few and far between and not very well executed.

Also, is he quick? because he looked slow as Sh!t getting around the park.

If he said he played poorly then I agree with him and I hope he shows me soon what all the fuss was about.

Honestly, if you lot are jizzing over his performance last night then you're all truly delusional.

Giovanni10 wrote:Still boring... lateral passes, forward passes were few and far between and not very well executed.

Also, is he quick? because he looked slow as Sh!t getting around the park.

If he said he played poorly then I agree with him and I hope he shows me soon what all the fuss was about.

Honestly, if you lot are jizzing over his performance last night then you're all truly delusional.

I know, he is no Montolivo, then again, who is?

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

Giovanni10 wrote:Still boring... lateral passes, forward passes were few and far between and not very well executed.

Also, is he quick? because he looked slow as Sh!t getting around the park.

If he said he played poorly then I agree with him and I hope he shows me soon what all the fuss was about.

Honestly, if you lot are jizzing over his performance last night then you're all truly delusional.

I know, he is no Montolivo, then again, who is?

sour grapes much? I never suggested Monto, that was Babun, I moderated him to suggest Marchisio instead.

Blah blah blah, I know the excuses already: 1st start in 6 months, lacks match practice, still lacks a bit of fitness..

As far as I'm concerned, he has had enough time to get fit and integrated and he was supposed to blow us away with his superior technique last night but gods honest truth I didn't see one stitch of it.

What I did see was a huge lack of confidence for someone who was voted player of year in his division last season.

Having said that though, my disclaimer is that I'm sure he is a great player and it will probably just take some time for him to get settled into the 1st team.

My problem is, how much time? BARCA ON THE 10th OF DECEMBER!!

Who said he had superior technique? it shows how little you know about him.

please, instead of assuming that he is the first coming of Pirlo+Redondo hybrid, go watch some dortmund games or dont pretend that you know about him.

we can beat barca without him lol, and he is not going to start against them anyway.

who said we need him vs barca

super copa anyone

I think you were disappointed because he was hyped here so much that he seemed to be the next Redondo/Zidane or something.

He showed glimpses of his technique when he was running the midfield and not Xabi. I know you acknowledged he's great and but he will need a month or maybe even two.

I don't think he's close yet to be even considered for the clasico. I won't expect mou to even start him as he'll want the guys who are familiar with barca to be the starters.

His main purpose for now is to learn Xabi's role, be the link between defense and attack. Being in a new team with players you've never played with makes it tough. That's the main reason he needs that much time, he can be on form but you can't really get that cohesion part with the team in a few weeks.

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Who said he had superior technique? it shows how little you know about him.

please, instead of assuming that he is the first coming of Pirlo+Redondo hybrid, go watch some dortmund games or dont pretend that you know about him.

we can beat barca without him lol, and he is not going to start against them anyway.

I'm not gona lie, I would prefer if he were the "first coming of a Pirlo-Redondo Hybrid" Besides I actually never said we needed him for Barca! You lot at the start of the season were discussing some BS midfield that would have Sahin, Khedira and Xabi in midfield and Ozil promoted to the front 3.. or were you not part of that crew?

I'm also tired of being crucified for not watching him during his Dortmund days. I have "actually" seen him, I saw him last night and he was frakking MEH! My opinion, sorry!

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:

we can beat barca without him lol, and he is not going to start against them anyway.

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Giovanni10 wrote:

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:Who said he had superior technique? it shows how little you know about him.

please, instead of assuming that he is the first coming of Pirlo+Redondo hybrid, go watch some dortmund games or dont pretend that you know about him.

we can beat barca without him lol, and he is not going to start against them anyway.

I'm not gona lie, I would prefer if he were the "first coming of a Pirlo-Redondo Hybrid" Besides I actually never said we needed him for Barca! You lot at the start of the season were discussing some BS midfield that would have Sahin, Khedira and Xabi in midfield and Ozil promoted to the front 3.. or were you not part of that crew?

I'm also tired of being crucified for not watching him during his Dortmund days. I have "actually" seen him, I saw him last night and he was frakking MEH! My opinion, sorry!

My problem is, how much time? BARCA ON THE 10th OF DECEMBER!!

sooo, this is you saying what? if you think we dont need him, why mention the barca game in CAPITAL LETTERS?

im sorry but claiming that you didnt see the "superior technique" is a clear sign that you dont know much about him. your opinion your own, but dont make bs statements, it's the only reason i responded to you in the first time.

Frankly, in a 4-3-3, i prefer Sahin. He's very rusty... understandably. He actually has very good technique usually. To say that he's a highly technical player for a non-attacking midfielder is fair. You're just seeing him at 60% right now.

In a 4-2-3-1, Khedira is more suited because he's more of a bull and you need that if you're only playing two midfielders.

As far as Barca, we're going with a 4-3-3 with a destroyer... either Coentrao or Lass. Since Khedira has experience and has played very well against Barca, he is a much better option against them.

Because we're going 4-3-3, the forward combo is going to be very interesting. I'd go with Ozil-CR7-Benz because they are all multi-facted, can hold the ball and create. If we play Di Maria in a 4-2-3-1, then it's a choice between Benz and Higuain.

A lot of options. Good to be a Madrid fan right now.

If all are fit, we will go with the same formation we used during the supercup, nothing will change. Even the players now have reached a point where they want to punch barca in the teeth, and will work their asses off to press and defend as a unit. Finishing the chances we have can make a world of a difference.

For barca I'd use ronaldo-Benz-Di maria,and bench ozil.midfield would be sahin-lass-xabi.Marcelo at the bernabeu and coentrao at he nou

I find it funny how Madrid are the favourites going into practically every clasico

Nick, so Sportczy and others say he has good technique and you're the one who says not.

Again, you're having a go at me for not knowing him, I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. If I'm not to expect good technique from him, then what should I expect from Nuri Sahin?

Why don't you rather educate me Nick?

Sports, I hope you are right that he is at 60% right now, because based on last nights showing Granero looks a far more talented midfielder than him.

sportsczy wrote:As far as Barca, we're going with a 4-3-3 with a destroyer... either Coentrao or Lass. Since Khedira has experience and has played very well against Barca, he is a much better option against them.

Because we're going 4-3-3, the forward combo is going to be very interesting. I'd go with Ozil-CR7-Benz because they are all multi-facted, can hold the ball and create. If we play Di Maria in a 4-2-3-1, then it's a choice between Benz and Higuain.

A lot of options. Good to be a Madrid fan right now.

If we do go the trivote route I would like to see Coentrao and not lass. He can hold the ball and make passes which can be crucial. He can also go forward and backwards to cover for defense [marcelo] when needed without problems.

But lass has been awesome recently,not just defensively but at passing too

St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:If all are fit, we will go with the same formation we used during the supercup, nothing will change. Even the players now have reached a point where they want to punch barca in the teeth, and will work their asses off to press and defend as a unit. Finishing the chances we have can make a world of a difference.

The starting lineups for those two games were:

Game 1 - Casillas, Ramos, Pepe, Carvalho, Marcelo, Khedira, Alonso, Ozil, Di Maria, CR7 and Benz
Game 2 - Casillas, Ramos, Pepe, Carvalho, Coentrao, Khedira, Alonso, Di Maria, Ozil, CR7 and Benz

Of course, Carvalho is out, Ramos at CB and Arbeloa at RB. If Arbeloa is hurt, Lass at RB. Marcelo will be the LB if healthy and on form. Other than that, i expect the same lineup too.

Scrap 4-3-3 vs Barca. We want 4-2-3-1 imo.


We should play like this in Nou and Bernabeu imo

Ganso wrote:But lass has been awesome recently,not just defensively but at passing too

Nobody but me will agree here lol. Not awesome; but very solid.

omarish wrote:Scrap 4-3-3 vs Barca. We want 4-2-3-1 imo.

Arbeloa - Pepe - El Kaiser - Marcelo
Xabi Alonso - Khedira
Di Magia - Özil - Ronaldo
Benz/Higgy (I'm not sure which one I'd pick)

We should play like this in Nou and Bernabeu imo

Use that and your get ripped apart lol, Messi will be free to do what the f*ck he likes........

Unless Barca go 3-4-3 ofcourse

Actually I agree he has been solid. But Dinamo made everyone look good ffs, 4 goals in 20min... With our B team. Imagine with Ronaldo there (:hungry:)

Immaculate_Mole wrote:

omarish wrote:Scrap 4-3-3 vs Barca. We want 4-2-3-1 imo.

Arbeloa - Pepe - El Kaiser - Marcelo
Xabi Alonso - Khedira
Di Magia - Özil - Ronaldo
Benz/Higgy (I'm not sure which one I'd pick)

We should play like this in Nou and Bernabeu imo

Use that and your get ripped apart lol, Messi will be free to do what the f*ck he likes........

Unless Barca go 3-4-3 ofcourse

This is our starting XI... This is how we play everytime.... I don't see why Messi would rip us, I did include Pepe in there, so we should be safe