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Post by Myesyats Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:06 pm

This makes no sense. Why would he have a release clause in his contract then? Bilbao is not a prison

Pretty sure time will prove YOU wrong Thumbs up

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Post by farfan Thu Jul 11, 2024 8:53 pm

Yeah, not sure about these ominous warnings that make Bilbao sound like some dangerous organized crime outfit Laughing If someone triggers the clause there is nothing they can do about it. It already happened in recent years with Kepa, Laporte, and Herrera.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:03 am



Agent Dani. Tchouaméni-Rodri straight swap
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:07 am

farfan wrote:Yeah, not sure about these ominous warnings that make Bilbao sound like some dangerous organized crime outfit Laughing If someone triggers the clause there is nothing they can do about it. It already happened in recent years with Kepa, Laporte, and Herrera.
I remember Martinez having to "break in" at night to get his stuff. Llorente was also abused. Bilbao don't take too kindly to players leaving but Herrera is now back and I am sure loved again etc. Nico will definitely get booed but I don't think his family including Inaki will be targeted as revenge. Such a shame Inaki decided to stay. Hope Nico leaves, they deserve to be seen on a bigger stage.
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 12, 2024 6:21 am

halamadrid2 wrote:
farfan wrote:Yeah, not sure about these ominous warnings that make Bilbao sound like some dangerous organized crime outfit Laughing If someone triggers the clause there is nothing they can do about it. It already happened in recent years with Kepa, Laporte, and Herrera.
I remember Martinez having to "break in" at night to get his stuff. Llorente was also abused. Bilbao don't take too kindly to players leaving but Herrera is now back and I am sure loved again etc. Nico will definitely get booed but I don't think his family including Inaki will be targeted as revenge. Such a shame Inaki decided to stay. Hope Nico leaves, they deserve to be seen on a bigger stage.

This is also unethical af, players want to develop their careers and at Bilbao there is a glass ceiling. What futbol describes seems to me like rather a toxic environment
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Post by futbol_bill Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:16 am

It’s a trade off between Vasco and Catalans! Both bad IMO. Actually in today’s environment, I would take Vasco. ask Arq.

What I think you are missing is Bilbao is in CL and is in good financial shape now. You don’t know if Nico wants to leave or not. That’s what was being said yesterday, that he has been put under pressure to answer questions when he is saying he wants to concentrate on Euros.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Jul 12, 2024 7:17 am

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halamadrid2 wrote:
farfan wrote:Yeah, not sure about these ominous warnings that make Bilbao sound like some dangerous organized crime outfit Laughing If someone triggers the clause there is nothing they can do about it. It already happened in recent years with Kepa, Laporte, and Herrera.
I remember Martinez having to "break in" at night to get his stuff. Llorente was also abused. Bilbao don't take too kindly to players leaving but Herrera is now back and I am sure loved again etc. Nico will definitely get booed but I don't think his family including Inaki will be targeted as revenge. Such a shame Inaki decided to stay. Hope Nico leaves, they deserve to be seen on a bigger stage.

This is also unethical af, players want to develop their careers and at Bilbao there is a glass ceiling. What futbol describes seems to me like rather a toxic environment
I think Bilbao is unique in this sense where they think it's ok to abuse all players who leave them. Especially home grown. There are other Spanish teams that have treated those who left them with a barrage of abuse but that's because they have joined a team which they dislike. Seems to be a LaLiga problem
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Post by futbol_bill Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:51 am

The entire Vasco region is unique plus remember Bilbao only has Basque players. They have a lot of pride, feel they are not handicapped by this choice and believe they not only have the players but the financial capability to compete with the best. It is similar with La Real. But they aren’t as adamant with having or keeping Basque players. Nor are they as strong financially.
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Post by futbol_bill Fri Jul 12, 2024 8:54 am

If Nico does want to leave, he will have to make a statement after Euros are finished. If and only if he makes such a statement, will I believe it. These statements from media and Laporta does mean shit!
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Post by Myesyats Fri Jul 12, 2024 10:04 am

Barca is positioning itself to activate the release clause after EURO final and Flick is pushing to make it happen - per most recent reports.

Every media is saying the same, including very reliable Barca sources, Nico isnt paying attention to any other offers from PSG or EPL

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Post by Vibe Sat Jul 13, 2024 11:58 pm

Varane to Como?

Surely he could do better than that.
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Post by the xcx Mon Jul 15, 2024 9:14 pm

Alvaro Morata seems to have decided to leave Atletico and in talks with AC Milan. Kinda feels like a perfect club for him
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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:21 am

Clever agent as usual, juicing the Euro hype Very Happy I think I read somewhere b4 hes like the player with the most accumulated transfer fees EVER, so just imagine the fees his agent got over all these years Very Happy

Milan... actually thought Bologna might be his level tbh but they do seem to be on the up Razz
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Jul 16, 2024 5:06 am

What Euro hype? Not even Morata himself would dare think he had a good Euro

They are getting the cheapest option available with Giroud leaving and one who is familiar with Serie A
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Post by the xcx Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:00 am

Morata is an average Striker but he does have quite an impressive CV. He only plays for big clubs. Sort of giving the Ibra vibes but a lot less lethal
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:23 am

halamadrid2 wrote:What Euro hype? Not even Morata himself would dare think he had a good Euro

They are getting the cheapest option available with Giroud leaving and one who is familiar with Serie A


Morata didn’t score in this Euro but he did make a lot of things work for the team. He is also did a lot of team bonding, as captain. Carvajal was speaking about this the other day. He isn’t a great striker, but he isn’t terrible either.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Jul 16, 2024 9:34 am

I still can't believe he was chosen as a captain over Carvajal and Rodri
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:48 am

He’s been there longer than both of them. Carvajal missed out a few times due to injuries. That’s the tradition in Spain. By all accounts though Morata took the responsibility serious and did a very good job. He also make contributions on the field, just didn’t score, nor did he get a lot of opportunities. In de la Fuente’s tactics, there were a lot of dummy runs to create space for both Nico and Yamal.

I. just wished De la Fuente subbed in Joselu rather than Oyarzabal. Joselu may not be a starter, but he knows how to score when given the opportunity. Oyarzabal imo is more of a winger.

But for next WC, i doubt if Carvajal, Morata, Joselu, Navas will be there. That means, we have to find a real striker(s), better backup wingers, RB (i have hope though that Carvajal is good enough in 2 years time, in which case a backup RB. Other than that, I think it will be mostly the same team.
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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Jul 16, 2024 10:57 am

Carvajal made his debut on September 2014, while Morata made his debut in November 2014. Even if you go by seniority Dani would be ahead of him too. Morata is wholly unfit to be a leader of a team. He is neither the best, has leadership skills or the most senior. If you think he was a good captain then fair play but I wouldn't even have him in my top 10. This is a guy that cries every 5 mins lol
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Jul 16, 2024 11:53 am

As I said previously Carvajal missed several times due to injuries. It is continued time with team. Dani will no doubt be captain next time around if he continues or it will go to Rodri. No one in Spain is upset that he was captain, we won the Cup and there was good chemistry, camaraderie on the team, that Morata had a lot of influence in that. The only complaints I heard was his lack of scoring, he was wastefully offside on a couple of occasions and the fact that when he was taken out, it wasn’t Joselu going in.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Jul 16, 2024 12:38 pm

@Myrsyats, the pressure has already started in Bilbao. The only way you or any of the 4 EPL teams after Nico, will get him unless he declares he wants to leave and will pay the exit clause (the money would come from club buying him, but he has to pay it). In Bilbao they say he is not leaving. That they spoke with him in the past week as well as with Unai and Vivian and are saying all three are staying and are essential to their run. That’s why all three were signed or salary increased in past year.
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Post by Firenze Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:02 pm

No idea how we are lining up next season but Ineos are getting shit done. Deal agreed with Lille for Lenny Yoro, the best young CB in the world allegedly. @sportsczy

Ugarte and De Ligt next

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Martinez will start a lot of games at LB probably cuz Shaw won't stay fit, i still wish we would ditch Rashford doesnt deserve to be accomodated and throws team balance off
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Post by Arquitecto Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:12 pm

De Ligt is easily the best young CB I will die on that hill. Criminal how he's being phased out by Bayern.
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Post by the xcx Tue Jul 16, 2024 7:40 pm

Whats more sad is that he moved to United out of all the clubs and coached by someone with no vision and ambition.
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Post by futbol_bill Tue Jul 16, 2024 8:44 pm

Firenze wrote:No idea how we are lining up next season but Ineos are getting shit done. Deal agreed with Lille for Lenny Yoro, the best young CB in the world allegedly. @sportsczy

Ugarte and De Ligt next

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Martinez will start a lot of games at LB probably cuz Shaw won't stay fit, i still wish we would ditch Rashford doesnt deserve to be accomodated and throws team balance off
Firenze wrote:No idea how we are lining up next season but Ineos are getting shit done. Deal agreed with Lille for Lenny Yoro, the best young CB in the world allegedly. @sportsczy

Ugarte and De Ligt next

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Mainoo Ugarte
Bruno Zirkee Rashford
Hojlund

Martinez will start a lot of games at LB probably cuz Shaw won't stay fit, i still wish we would ditch Rashford doesnt deserve to be accomodated and throws team balance off


You may have a deal with Lille, but Yoro has a deal with RMad and won’t accept a move to EPL. He may or may not go this year, it depend on Lille accept something less from Madrid or lose him to Madrid in a year for nothing.
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Post by BarcaLearning Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:33 am

Would Casemiro be happy with a bench role though?
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