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Post by Harmonica Tue May 24, 2022 2:59 pm

Myesyats wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Non factor with leading progressive play in Europe?

Yes Rolling Eyes

PSG had better seasons without messi like 18/19 when they scored more goals and got more points. Eliminated in Ro16 in CL still so Messi didnt elevate them to higher level.
1 point better relative to competition.  Rolling Eyes  CL doesn't matter as any player can fck up any tie individually, like Dollarumma. In league individual mistakes get filtered out, and true level is better revealed. And Barca only had worse season in 07-08, what does that matter in instantly better season?

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Post by Myesyats Tue May 24, 2022 3:27 pm

Why are you deflecting to barca if we're not talking about barca? my points was about PSG and their ligue runs.

except the Lille win in 20/21
—PSG got 93 points in 17/18
—91 points in 18/19
—and were on their way to 90 points in 19/20 before it was canceled due to Covid.

So how 86 points with Messi this season is improvement over recent seasons? They got more points without his forward progression
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Post by Harmonica Tue May 24, 2022 3:38 pm

Myesyats wrote:Why are you deflecting to barca if we're not talking about barca? my points was about PSG and their ligue runs.

except the Lille win in 20/21
—PSG got 93 points in 17/18
—91 points in 18/19
—and were on their way to 90 points in 19/20 before it was canceled due to Covid.

So how 86 points with Messi this season is improvement over recent seasons? They got more points without his forward progression
What a Face Why are you skipping a season in instantly better thread? PSG won ligue this season by 15 points, lost last season by 1. That's an instantly better season if you ask me.
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Post by Myesyats Tue May 24, 2022 4:02 pm

You're just saying "by 15 points" as if Messi earned those points lol.

Last season: 82 points
This season: 86 points

So 4 points more earned. Last season, coach was sacked midseason and it also played a part in more points lost. I don't see Messi's input in there.
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Post by Harmonica Tue May 24, 2022 4:08 pm

Myesyats wrote:You're just saying "by 15 points" as if Messi earned those points lol.

Last season: 82 points
This season: 86 points

So 4 points more earned. Last season, coach was sacked midseason and it also played a part in more points lost. I don't see Messi's input in there.
Messi is part of the team, in a team sport. Just compare how much more space Mbappe had this season than last and you'll see the difference. Teams left the fastest player on football without double marking, or even unguarded because of Messi. If Mbappe was better finisher, they would've cracked the 100 point mark, probably will next season when Messi can resume full mode. Why do you think Mbappe didn't move to Real? I'll give you one guess.
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Post by Myesyats Tue May 24, 2022 6:41 pm

Harmonica wrote:Why do you think Mbappe didn't move to Real? I'll give you one guess.

Money and politics
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Post by CM Pep Wed May 25, 2022 11:48 am


The heights Messi fanbois have to go to justify his flop season at PSG.
Now he's the great enabler. Enabling Mbappe to score. Lol. Yes, give him the Ballon d'Enabler.

We finished 2nd this year. 3rd last year. 'nuff said. Better in the league, particularly after Xavi came in.

Honestly glad to be rid of Messi's beta loser attitude, especially in KOs. He hasn't put in a KO performance for club since forever. Trademark forlorn look against RM this time too from him. Oh great enabler, why thou hath abandoned thine enabling

At least in that EL exit, we still mounted a comeback. We saw some fighting spirit. Can't remember the last time I saw that in a knockout.

We have a great future to look forward to: Pedri, Fati, Gavi, Araujo. Even if say Gavi doesn't renew, we have an identity now which we were lacking since at least 2015.

I will always remember Messi fondly, I grew up watching him. What he became though is not what he could have become. Have elucidated my thoughts on this elsewhere.

Messi fanbois though are insufferable. Imagine hanging around the Barca forum even after a year. Lol.

Won a match? All hail Messi. Lose a match? It's a team game. Reminds me of India's PM - record no. of covid deaths? System Failure. A random person praises India? All hail the PM.

Things I expect from Messi fanbois next season:

- How Messi was held back in WC by XYZ player
- why Messi was deserving of Ballon D'or and not some other player
- How Amber Heard could have won her case if Messi was in the legal team
- How Messi's warmup routine helped PSG GK with his lovemaking

Take a hike Messi fanbois. Let us enjoy the team game and not your idiosyncratic nonsense.
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Post by Harmonica Wed May 25, 2022 12:30 pm

rofl Now we just need report from the other dunderhead.
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Post by danyjr Wed May 25, 2022 1:31 pm

CM Pep wrote:We finished 2nd this year. 3rd last year. 'nuff said. Better in the league, particularly after Xavi came in.
To dismiss this particular shitpost:

La Liga: 73 points, +30 GD this season, 79 points, +47 GD previous season.
CL elimination: group stage this season*, round of 16 previous season.
Copa del Rey elimination: round of 16 this season, semi-final previous season.

So yeah, worsened in EVERY competition this year Rolling Eyes If there have been any signs of improvement to the team it is because of the change at club level and Xavi, not cause Messi left. Before Xavi came Barcelona looked like a mid table team, FAR worse than without Messi last year.

*Barcelona being eliminated from Europa League in quarter finals to the 11th team in Bundesliga Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Wed May 25, 2022 1:42 pm

You have to go back to 07-08 to worse league performance, and probably two decades to 02-03 to worse seasonal performance.
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Post by Myesyats Wed May 25, 2022 3:58 pm

The fact that Pep can’t win CL to save his life without Messi says it all.

He’s not an obstacle. If you can build around him and surround him  with competent players and coach, he’s the greatest asset.

Messi haters such as Alex are as annoying as Messi suckers tbh,
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Post by CM Pep Thu May 26, 2022 5:54 am

Myesyats wrote:The fact that Pep can’t win CL to save his life without Messi says it all.



The fact that Messi can't win a CL to save his life without Xavi says it all.
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Post by CM Pep Thu May 26, 2022 6:01 am

danyjr wrote:
CM Pep wrote:We finished 2nd this year. 3rd last year. 'nuff said. Better in the league, particularly after Xavi came in.
To dismiss this particular shitpost:

La Liga: 73 points, +30 GD this season, 79 points, +47 GD previous season.
CL elimination: group stage this season*, round of 16 previous season.
Copa del Rey elimination: round of 16 this season, semi-final previous season.

So yeah, worsened in EVERY competition this year Rolling Eyes If there have been any signs of improvement to the team it is because of the change at club level and Xavi, not cause Messi left. Before Xavi came Barcelona looked like a mid table team, FAR worse than without Messi last year.

*Barcelona being eliminated from Europa League in quarter finals to the 11th team in Bundesliga Laughing


In a sense you're even worse than these Messi haters - your sole reason for existence in this section is to shit on Barca. Laughing

There are haters and there are anti-fans. Imagine living just to shit on a club.
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Post by danyjr Thu May 26, 2022 6:10 am

Congratulations you addressed none of the arguments. Business as usual for the iNsTaNtLy bEtTeR crew.
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Post by CM Pep Thu May 26, 2022 6:23 am

danyjr wrote:Congratulations you addressed none of the arguments. Business as usual for the iNsTaNtLy bEtTeR crew.


Neither did you hmm

Shitposters deserve shitposts. Look at the thread title brah - you expected any cohesive arguments here? Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Thu May 26, 2022 9:29 am

CM Pep wrote:
Myesyats wrote:The fact that Pep can’t win CL to save his life without Messi says it all.



The fact that Messi can't win a CL to save his life without Xavi says it all.
Who? Neither could Xavi without Messi. Analogy not your strong suit.
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Post by CM Pep Thu May 26, 2022 1:00 pm

Harmonica wrote:
CM Pep wrote:
Myesyats wrote:The fact that Pep can’t win CL to save his life without Messi says it all.



The fact that Messi can't win a CL to save his life without Xavi says it all.
Who? Neither could Xavi without Messi. Analogy not your strong suit.


Fallacious analogy in order to highlight the original fallacious analogy.

Run along to your owners now, Harmony. They're calling you for a gehwa party.
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Post by Myesyats Thu May 26, 2022 2:32 pm

To quote elfmeter, you asian teenage girls are really retarded
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Post by _LMG_10_ Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:39 am

Imagine being so delusional or having such poor judgement that you think Messi was making Barca worse.

Imagine thinking that Barca finishing 2nd this year instead of 3rd last year means you had a better season Laughing

Imagine being FC Barcelona and being eliminated from the champions league group stage while scoring TWO goals. Would that EVER happen with Messi in the squad?
Then imagine that elimination not motivating you enough to win the lowly Europa league.

Imagine signing a bunch of players and improving your squad with players like Gavi, Nico, Feran Torres, Depay, Aubameyang, upgrading your coach, and STILL claiming that it was Messi holding you back.

Well, I guess I don't need to imagine any of that, I am seeing it on clear display.

TWO goals in the group stage rofl

Messi alone scored 10 in a group stage himself, and 5 against a single opponent lol

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