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Its fair to say even without this, Trump even slightly leading the polls right? Cos most Americans werent happy with things n Trump always promises to give them jobs n good economy so most average ppl vote for him, is that correct?
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Randomly search google after reading up the news n then for fake also, this page for example
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSpsBgYn-uM&list=TLPQMTQwNzIwMjS-nYOzZtTWPQ&index=3
Im pretty much new to it all... but what do u guys make of it? I definitely know difference stations broadcast completely different views... lol must be confusing for the average joe... although its still of cos much better than only getting one station where i am
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That’s the shooter. Only 20 years old. The specific motive is unclear, as of yet. Apparently doesn’t have a military background or relevant history of shooting practice. Used his father’s AR15 rifle and shot at trump from a rooftoop over 150 meters away.
He killed 1 civilian and injured 2 others in the process. Makes more sense that his accuracy was off now. If anyone still believes that this was all staged, that seems incredibly unlikely considering the small margin for error involved and the shooter clearly not being an experienced marksman.
He was shot and killed by sharpshooters that were on standby on a different rooftop. More than one witness claims that they saw a kid climb up on the rooftop, carrying a rifle. Just a normal day in the US of A
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Failure on the part of Secret Service to not cover that obvious vantage point on the left.
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Pedram wrote:Putin really doesn't have many enemies in Russia tbh, pretty much 90% of the country approve of his policies.
Do they really? It's more a result of decades of propaganda, cult-like leadership, violent crackdown on protests and eliminating/killing any sensible opposition and alternative viewpoints, which made Russians docile and disinterested.
It's definitely not close to 90%, the war in Ukraine is 'supported' by around 50% at best and only because they see it as a war against the West as a whole and its a "us or them" situation as they view it. The election results are half-rigged and other candidates are puppets or extensions of Putin anyway because real ones get murdered/poisoned/suicided
That said Navalny was a warmonger as well and wanted to annex Crimea too, so maybe it's just in their nature, living next to Russia be like that:
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Might not seem that much of a deal atm... but in the future Im sure this will become on of those historic events in history?
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N already the photos of Trump fist up bleeding with flag behind as symbol... feel sick of it already
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Vibe wrote:Anyway, the media and the prominent political figures trying to spin this, each to their own narrative, makes me want to vomit.
The circus never stops.
I'm going back to staying away from the news and keeping my mind palace clean of dirt.
Pretty much.
Republicans will state this was the Liberals' attempt at Trump down, since they know after the debate debacle that Biden's chances have gone down.
Democrats will state it was an inside job from Trump's team.
Honestly between the two I think the first option is more likely. It could just be a lone wolf far-left winger taking matters into his own hands with the motivations of the first point.
Either way, Trump has won this election. The right-wing got their MLK moment. That picture is going to be in history books for hundreds of years. I was scrolling through social media and the amount of people claiming they'll now vote for him because he has "aura" and was saved by "divine intervention" was A LOT.
Americans love drama and the whole WWE-esque nature of Trump going down then getting up with his ear bleeding and chanting "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT" will live on in memory. I'm kind of worried about the precedent this may cause though. What's going to stop a right-wing lunatic from doing the same with people in the Democrat party?
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Vibe wrote:Crazy world we live in. Anyone can be gotten to.
But the media never stop... When you google it you can only find titles like"Secret service interrupt Trump rally" and similar insignificant titles.
They are really against Trump. Which is why I support him a bit.
It was amusing because they refused to refer to it as an "assassination attempt"
They waited for FBI confirmation, but even then some media outlets are still not referring to it as such
Makes you think
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If anything thinks this wasnt a false flag operation I'd question their insight into things.
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Vibe wrote:So you are telling me, with a straight face, that Trump put his life into the hands of some random 20 year old, to shoot him in the ear and not his brain that is 1.5 cm away, while moving his head constantly. He literally moved his head in the very last moment, or the bullet would be in his brain.
There is 0% chance of that being true. Below zero.
McLewis, I have always liked you and respected you and I never tried to call you out on some BS because I understood these are emotional things for you and that your family doesn't have it easy being black in America. But come on man... Let's be real here.
Everything in American media, every piece of news, every narrative need to go through several filters in your mind to see something resembling the real picture. Right now, there are rooms and rooms, probably buldings full of people in the democrat media digging and desperately searching for anything with one single goal - how do we spin this. Let's see what they come up with.
I personally don't think he rigged this. I do believe this was a legit assassination attempt and I said that in another post. I don't like Trump. I don't respect him and I think he should be in prison for the rest of his life. I may sit on the far left ideologically from him, but I don't think he should be dead at an assassin's bullet. We don't need him as a martyr. It would signal the end of this democratic project.
However, the reality is that Trump is a convicted felon. SCOTUS (which Trump reshaped in his ideology's image) just gave the office of President significant levels of power by making the them immune from prosecution for "official acts". That's a solution to literally all of Trump's problems. It's not a conspiracy theory to at least consider that angle on this, even if I ultimately don't believe that's what happened here. It's not a conspiracy theory to acknowledge that he's fully taking advantage of the political fallout from this. It's just fact.
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Arquitecto wrote:Oh God the right wingers are already insufferable about this making Trump to come out as some martyred survivor MLK. How can it be so obvious?
If anything thinks this wasnt a false flag operation I'd question their insight into things.
I don’t think it’s obvious, but I can agree that something smells fishy about all of this.
If the kid had used a sniper rifle instead of a friggin assault rifle from that distance and still missed, then there could be an argument that this might have been staged. As it stands, the likelihood of him having possibly killed Trump by accident is far too high. An amateur, like him wouldn’t be able to intentionally graze someone’s ear from that distance with an assault rifle. He even killed 1 and injured 2 in the process. Which makes sense when you fire an assault rifle from that distance.
The kid could’ve also been stopped before anything ever happened, if a single one of the witnesses had taken action when they saw him climb up on that roof with a rifle - but this is the US and I suppose it wasn’t all that much out of the ordinary. It seems to me that Trump merely seized the moment, and it’s working in his favor now. The situation is strange, though.
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I'm not suggesting this was a deep state operation but it kinda stinks of what they usually do when things don't go their way.
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Donald Trump chooses J.D. Vance as his vice presidential running mate. pic.twitter.com/Hrdq9HaMSD
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Frankly, this is a hilarious pick for the following reasons:
A reminder that JD Vance sent this message to a friend referring to Donald Trump “America’s Hitler.” pic.twitter.com/njOR84dgJN
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JD Vance, who called Trump “America’s Hitler” and a “cynical asshole,” and said that any American would have to be an “idiot” to vote for him, has been selected as Trump’s running mate.
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Obviously all of this is being reported by American media, the greatest group of liars the world has ever seen, journalists without a grain of integrity or caring for truth, so take it with a sack of salt:
- Authorities were made aware of the threat before the rally
- He came there multiple times and snipers saw him before, notified command post about him
- He returned with a rangefinder measuring the distance, seen by sniper who took a picture
- Returned again with a backpack
- Took time to set up, seen by audience who kept alerting the authorities
- All this time, secret service was inside that very building he climbed and saw him
- Most of his social media disappeared as if never existed
- His phone password can't be cracked by FBI
Now I am not saying anything because we live in the age of spin, and who even knows what the truth is. We probably won't get it.
But how is it possible that all this happened in the space of 30 minutes and they didn't even send a police officer to at least check him out.
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According to the AP, a local police officer—presumably armed—climbed a ladder to confront the gunman on the roof. When the gunman pointed his rifle at the officer, the officer retreated back down the ladder. That’s when the gunman shot toward Trump. https://t.co/HbsFXFqdC6
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Pedram wrote:End Wokeness is pure right-wing trash
I know , didn’t mean to post it but it’s the only ss I had
Anyway the female secret service is banter. They didn’t cover the president, they didn’t know what to do at all, and they couldn’t properly handle their guns. It’s a disaster waiting to happen and Trump already has new all male security
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Myesyats wrote:Pedram wrote:End Wokeness is pure right-wing trash
I know , didn’t mean to post it but it’s the only ss I had
Anyway the female secret service is banter. They didn’t cover the president, they didn’t know what to do at all, and they couldn’t properly handle their guns. It’s a disaster waiting to happen and Trump already has new all male security
I blocked these forced channels. under Musk, Twitter uses algorithms that pushes radical right-wing channels to the top, even if you had no interactions with them they still show up on your feed.
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Pedram wrote:Myesyats wrote:Pedram wrote:End Wokeness is pure right-wing trash
I know , didn’t mean to post it but it’s the only ss I had
Anyway the female secret service is banter. They didn’t cover the president, they didn’t know what to do at all, and they couldn’t properly handle their guns. It’s a disaster waiting to happen and Trump already has new all male security
I blocked these forced channels. under Musk, Twitter uses algorithms that pushes radical right-wing channels to the top, even if you had no interactions with them they still show up on your feed.
Twitter is fucked, I get OF girls and softcore porn in my timeline to the point where I had to create a new account and it still persists.. idk what to do lmfao
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