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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:41 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@CBarca wrote:I mean it's a good discussion to have.

I didn't agree with it when Sterling's goal was ruled out either.

I don't believe it's within the spirit of the game to rule out a goal that's that close. And I think they ought to provide more clarity on the process. Am I supposed to trust that this technology is so good that they really can make a decision to rule out a goal for being mm offside? Is the technology that accurate?

It might be, but I don't know


Then you haved to talk about the offside rule if you want, but VAR worked perfectly there and according to the rules. There was no robbery.


I never said there was. The worst thing I've said is Spurs are unlucky and it feels stupid to enforce offside on such thin margins.

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Post by Nishankly on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:43 pm

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Wow that's some insane margin

Leicester finally coming back this year?
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Post by Nishankly on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:48 pm

Also the Kane goal, man I have so much respect to his ability. Reminds of that diving header goal that he scored (Don't remember against which team), one of the best headers I have seen till date and its shame no one talks about.
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Post by Nishankly on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:15 pm

City 3-0 up against Watford in 15 mins while Burnley are 2-0 up against Norwich in the same time.
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Post by Nishankly on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:15 pm

Sorry 4-0 in 15 mins
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Post by Unique on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:17 pm

It's on days like this that I wish we had more than 2 spurs fans. I remember a certain Nascar fan last season saying spurs are a better team than Liverpool ffs Laughing

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Post by Jay29 on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:18 pm

Watford. Jesus Christ. :facepalm:

Doing a Wigan here.

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Post by Nishankly on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:19 pm

5-0 17 mins
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Post by Firenze on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:21 pm

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:24 pm

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Yeah, instances like this feel very frustrating. There should be a margin of error of, say, 15 centimeters, built into VAR offside decisions

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Post by Sina on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:24 pm

Which brings back the debate that City doesn't have any legendary/Generational player that 'even if the match is not competitive you still want to keep watching just to watch this guy play'
None

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Post by Art Morte on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:34 pm

Watford Laughing
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Post by urbaNRoots on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:38 pm

This team had 30+ shots against Arsenal last week.

Bumery lives on.
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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:42 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@CBarca wrote:2019/2020 Premier League Discussion: Chapter I - Page 28 LIKX52k

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Yeah, instances like this feel very frustrating. There should be a margin of error of, say, 15 centimeters, built into VAR offside decisions


This a joke or for real? 15cm is huge

Either way, the issue is that you can move a frame or two here, draw a line imperceptibly different there and all of a sudden Son is onside. Or you can do the same thing and he's off.

There needs to be a thorough calculation of a reasonable margin of error for offside decisions, and that ought to be applied to VAR.

This is all science & math. We can calculate this. This shouldn't be an issue.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:49 pm

@CBarca wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@CBarca wrote:2019/2020 Premier League Discussion: Chapter I - Page 28 LIKX52k

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Yeah, instances like this feel very frustrating. There should be a margin of error of, say, 15 centimeters, built into VAR offside decisions


This a joke or for real? 15cm is huge

Either way, the issue is that you can move a frame or two here, draw a line imperceptibly different there and all of a sudden Son is onside. Or you can do the same thing and he's off.

There needs to be a thorough calculation of a reasonable margin of error for offside decisions, and that ought to be applied to VAR.

This is all science & math. We can calculate this. This shouldn't be an issue.


It's not a joke.
Let's say 10cm then.
If you're offside 1 cm (as determined by technology), it won't be sactioned. If you're off 11 cm, you're too far off.

That would install a bit of leniency in the optics of this, and would honour the spirit of "in doubt for the attacker".
Because frankly I don't think the system is able to exactly determine a 1 cm difference, technically.


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Post by Sina on Sat Sep 21, 2019 3:49 pm

Pre VAR era we would look at the replay once think they are level,goal is given and everyone moves on

i think this just the case that in few years var will be normalized and even this millimeter close call will be accepted

Just not used to this yet

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Post by Lex on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:01 pm

No worries, Kane will just have to dive for more penalties the next game to offset VAR

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Post by Harmonica on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:02 pm

Manitas after 17 minutes, marriages at half-time. What a horrible league. rofl

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Post by Lex on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:03 pm

@CBarca wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@CBarca wrote:2019/2020 Premier League Discussion: Chapter I - Page 28 LIKX52k

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Yeah, instances like this feel very frustrating. There should be a margin of error of, say, 15 centimeters, built into VAR offside decisions


This a joke or for real? 15cm is huge

Either way, the issue is that you can move a frame or two here, draw a line imperceptibly different there and all of a sudden Son is onside. Or you can do the same thing and he's off.

There needs to be a thorough calculation of a reasonable margin of error for offside decisions, and that ought to be applied to VAR.

This is all science & math. We can calculate this. This shouldn't be an issue.
Tell that to the blotchy legged feminist at my kid's school who swears there are an infinite number of genders

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:11 pm

well, there are

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Post by Helmer on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:18 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:Robbed? It was offside. It would've been a robbery if that goal counted actually.
VAR will be shit for ages till we see some improvements.
So comforting to see Spus fans whining here Proud
Long may it continue.

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Post by Lex on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:22 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:well, there are
Stop it rn

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Post by iftikhar on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:23 pm

I know aside a clutch of teams anyone can get whacked by City, but is this the season Watford goes down?
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Post by Helmer on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:27 pm

And so are Liverpools title chances over :facepalm:

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:29 pm

@Helmer wrote:And so are Liverpools title chances over :facepalm:

what? why?

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Post by Firenze on Sat Sep 21, 2019 4:35 pm

Liverpool fans are WOAT
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