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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:55 pm

can anyone remember var being used for a tighter offside? down to mms

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Post by RealGunner on Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:55 pm

Leicester, Wolves, Everton all frauds imo

top 6 will remain top 6 this season too

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Post by Jay29 on Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:55 pm

Can't wait to have an important goal ruled out for this bullshit.

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Post by RealGunner on Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:57 pm

lol i am glad its a Spurs goal ruled out but that's ridiculous

feels like they will give it offside even if someone's hair is in the offside position.

Awful technology

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:59 pm

feel like if it's within the margin of error the attacking team should get the benefit of the doubt

Aaaaand Lesster scored

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Post by RealGunner on Sat Sep 21, 2019 1:59 pm

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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:01 pm

Man that sucks

They gotta fix that. Doesn't feel right when it's that close

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Post by Firenze on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:08 pm

Poch lost the drive at Spurs after realising the CL final was his peak IMO, see him gone next summer, probably to Madrid
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Post by Art Morte on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:10 pm

Wtf is going on, I turned the stream off when Aurier made it 2-0 and now the game's 1-1 Laughing
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:11 pm

@Firenze wrote:Poch lost the drive at Spurs after realising the CL final was his peak IMO, see him gone next summer, probably to Madrid
got robbed vs newcastle and today. should be comfortably 2nd.

but over an entire season hopefully these refereeing errors sort themselves out.

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Post by RealGunner on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:14 pm

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Post by Jay29 on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:15 pm

Maddison :bow:

Spurs giving up a lead for the third time in a row, albeit they're a bit unlucky today.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:16 pm

...did vertonghen move away from the ball's path?

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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:16 pm

Don't feel as upset with this one

Should be 2-0 up

Leicester looking like they might win off a deflection, an unlucky VAR call and a screamer

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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:18 pm

Unlike Olympiakos or Arsenal where Spurs never deserved that lead, Spurs have been the better team the entire game and have had chances. Just unlucky

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:18 pm

@CBarca wrote:Don't feel as upset with this one

Should be 2-0 up

Leicester looking like they might win off a deflection, an unlucky VAR call and a screamer
I think there's plenty to be upset about not being able to keep leads anymore, but agreed robbed and bad luck had a role

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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:27 pm

I mean the defending has been a problem and is one

But it's not like the performance was bad today. There is a lot more to like here than in most other Spurs games this season. The only issue was VAR and Son having a bad game. There is a lot more that's unlucky in this game than anything.

With that being said, I'm only saying it's positive relative to a relegation form Tottenham.

Poch needs to stop the bleeding quickly or he's going to start losing the dressing room. This has gone on too long. He needs to start with a long look at the defense, but especially defensive midfield.


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Post by urbaNRoots on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:27 pm

Robbed? It was offside. It would've been a robbery if that goal counted actually.
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Post by Firenze on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:29 pm

VAR is fine. It's offside, lol.
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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:32 pm

I mean it's a good discussion to have.

I didn't agree with it when Sterling's goal was ruled out either.

I don't believe it's within the spirit of the game to rule out a goal that's that close. And I think they ought to provide more clarity on the process. Am I supposed to trust that this technology is so good that they really can make a decision to rule out a goal for being mm offside? Is the technology that accurate?

It might be, but I don't know

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:33 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:Robbed? It was offside. It would've been a robbery if that goal counted actually.
there was no significant difference between the 2, it was down to a mm, and there was no "clear and obvious" mistake by the ref. I would have less of a problem with this if VAR was consistently this strict, but when VAR is continuously ignored because it wasn't a "clear and obvious mistake" overturning a decision down to the mm feels fundamentally unfair. So yeah, robbed.


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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:34 pm

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Post by urbaNRoots on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:35 pm

@CBarca wrote:I mean it's a good discussion to have.

I didn't agree with it when Sterling's goal was ruled out either.

I don't believe it's within the spirit of the game to rule out a goal that's that close. And I think they ought to provide more clarity on the process. Am I supposed to trust that this technology is so good that they really can make a decision to rule out a goal for being mm offside? Is the technology that accurate?

It might be, but I don't know


Then you haved to talk about the offside rule if you want, but VAR worked perfectly there and according to the rules. There was no robbery.
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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:40 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:Robbed? It was offside. It would've been a robbery if that goal counted actually.
there was no significant difference between the 2, it was down to a mm, and there was no "clear and obvious" mistake by the ref. I would have less of a problem with this if VAR was consistently this strict, but when VAR is continuously ignored because it wasn't a "clear and obvious mistake", overturning a decision down to the mm feels fundamentally unfair. So yeah, robbed.


I disagree here. I think EPL's problem with "clear and obvious" is another issue. Offside is a binary call and they should enforce it as such.

I do think that there are legitimate questions about whether a goal should be ruled out when the margin of error is that thin. How do we know that's the exact frame the ball has left N'Dombele's foot? Why is the line drawn to Johnny Evan's knee instead of his hip? They look about even, but drawn to the hip might have bought Spurs an extra millimeter or so and now Son's onside, for example.

Doesn't seem right to me. Maybe I'm wrong though and these guys are experts that have cameras and computers that are drawing the lines perfectly and their fps is so good that it can capture down to the millimeter

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Post by CBarca on Sat Sep 21, 2019 2:41 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@CBarca wrote:I mean it's a good discussion to have.

I didn't agree with it when Sterling's goal was ruled out either.

I don't believe it's within the spirit of the game to rule out a goal that's that close. And I think they ought to provide more clarity on the process. Am I supposed to trust that this technology is so good that they really can make a decision to rule out a goal for being mm offside? Is the technology that accurate?

It might be, but I don't know


Then you haved to talk about the offside rule if you want, but VAR worked perfectly there and according to the rules. There was no robbery.


I never said there was. The worst thing I've said is Spurs are unlucky and it feels stupid to enforce offside on such thin margins.

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