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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:03 am

Ramos is turning 33 in a couple of days, and his contract expires in june 2020. His relationship with Perez has been very poor over the past few years, even though they have maintained good appearances publicly.

Jose Felix Diaz speculated tonight on Elchiringuito that it might be his last season, and De la Morena on Onda Cera did the same a few days ago saying that Perez has been hesitant to renew his contract.

Is it time to move on from Ramos? ill poll this
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Post by sportsczy Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:28 am

Maybe. Maybe not. It's a hard question. I always look at possible replacements... if it's going to be a CR situation where you expect Nacho and some castilla kid to fill his shoes next season, then it's resounding NO. But if you actually sign a top CB (we need to sign a good one anyhow mind you), then probably YES.

Who's out there? Lucas Hernandez would be fantastic if we can get him. He refused us 2 years ago (we signed his brother instead) per his own words (https://en.as.com/en/2019/02/08/football/1549617258_241754.html)... but he made it sound like it was a timing decision.
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Post by Doc Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:35 am

In all honesty, next season should be his last season and Vallejo taking up the mantle alongside Varane. However, Ramos isn't exactly long in the tooth and still is in great physical shape...somehow. Also, Vallejo is not cutting the mustard so there is that as well. I voted no as I really feel it's time to move on from the old guard but Ramos looks like he'll be here for a while.

I don't mind personally, my love for Ramos is real...so is my hate. He also is an experienced defender and that has its weight in gold.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:57 am

@sportsczy wrote:Maybe.  Maybe not.  It's a hard question.  I always look at possible replacements...  if it's going to be a CR situation where you expect Nacho and some castilla kid to fill his shoes next season, then it's resounding NO.  But if you actually sign a top CB (we need to sign a good one anyhow mind you), then probably YES.

Who's out there?  Lucas Hernandez would be fantastic if we can get him.  He refused us 2 years ago (we signed his brother instead) per his own words (https://en.as.com/en/2019/02/08/football/1549617258_241754.html)...  but he made it sound like it was a timing decision.

Didn't Lucas agree to join Bayern next summer for something like 70m? Could be wrong.

Regarding Ramos leaving, I think it is a tough ask because CBs with technical ability are in high demand- so who would want to pay that much for him? And what is Perez willing to take for his price? Even though he is in his 30's he hasn't really declined Imo.

Personally I don't see it happening. I don't think we would get the price we would want for him. Doubt we could get someone who could immediately come in and do a job like we would want, plus Ramos has an insane amount of power here at Madrid, he doesn't seem the type of person to give that up.

Overall, I think because we are in such a bad situation every conflict is put under a microscope. We get a proper manager who can manage a dressing room, and a few signings to appease everyone and these issues largely go away imo.

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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:08 am

So is it a question of who is out there then?

i can name a few young players who are interesting to look at like Skriniar; i was very impressed by De Ligt (Deez had warned me); Lucas...
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Post by Doc Mon Mar 11, 2019 3:34 am

Lucas and Bayern may have agreed contract terms but Bayern and Atleti hasn't agreed to anything. But let's be real, Lucas won't come here since we pretty much disregarded his brother lol. But there are other young defenders that can grow into the role, the problem is that, as Deez mentioned, Ramos has serious pull at the club. He also is an experienced defender at this level, that is huge.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:38 am

But Ramos is 33 he is finished by all of your metrics
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Post by Doc Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:20 am

Ramos is finished at 33 the same way Icardi is a useless poacher. Also, who is "all of your metrics"?
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:23 am

icardi is an awful player though, serious

if ramos leaves, Benzema becomes captain :bow:
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Post by Perucho21 Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:22 am

If he does go, I only see 2 great replacements in De Ligt and Skriniar. Hernandez also but if Marcelo leaves I would not mind seeing Lucas play LB
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon Mar 11, 2019 12:27 pm

Ramos just published a self interview on his Twitter. Asking the questions himself then answering rofl this social media age is shit
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Post by VanDeezNuts Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:10 pm

@Nick if Ramos AND Marcelo leave, Benzema becomes capitan.

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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Mar 11, 2019 6:32 pm

Yh we can just nip this thread in the bud. With ZZ here Ramos is never getting dold, neither is he leaving
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri May 24, 2019 12:09 pm

now according to marca he is thinking about going.

Its something new everyday isnt it?

please decide quick so we can hijack de ligt or sign koulibaly, you clown
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Post by Freeza Fri May 24, 2019 12:22 pm

pls Proud
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Post by Cyborg Fri May 24, 2019 5:01 pm

Ramos can leave. He 33, his leadership will be missed tho.

But where would he go? Psg?

The euros are next summer too. Didn't think he'd risk it. He can lose his place in Spain despite being captain.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Fri May 24, 2019 5:21 pm

Lots of teams actually need a CB, the most likely are PSG or ManU, but Spurs need 1, Arsenal need 2 probably, Juve probably need 1, Atletico need 1.

As for the Euros, Ramos isn't risking anything. He's a lock for the national team as Spain don't have many good CBs and he is captain. He's competing with the likes of Hermoso, Bartra, Martinez, and Albiol.

No chance Ramos loses his place, plus the teams he's rumored to will all be fine. It's not like he's going to the MLS or China, and even then..

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Post by sportsczy Fri May 24, 2019 5:43 pm

He wants more money lol. That's what this is about. We shouldn't give it to him...
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon May 27, 2019 1:55 pm

According to ABC Ramos wants to improve his contract to 2022 at 14 mil net per season.

https://www.abc.es/deportes/real-madrid/abci-plan-sergio-ramos-201905262115_noticia.html
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon May 27, 2019 2:43 pm

Now breaking news from Jugones de la sexta that he wants to leave for free to China
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Post by Freeza Mon May 27, 2019 3:03 pm

So Bale and Ramos on their way out

Apparently I'm the new sporting director
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon May 27, 2019 5:10 pm

Clear tactics for more money, Ramos camp leaking stuff.

Florentino is gonna be on radio tonight it should be fun
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Post by Cyborg Mon May 27, 2019 5:46 pm

Let him leave :coffee:
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Post by futbol_bill Mon May 27, 2019 9:03 pm

He’s not leaving! This is all about him falling down the salary ladder. behind Bale ( who likely will collect his while playing golf for the season), Hazard, Pogba and Mbappe! And who knows maybe even Benzema (he’s reportedly asking for an increase as well).

These new guys coming, specifically Pogba and Mbappe (acknowledging it won’t be this year) will likely get double what Ramos is currently earning.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Mon May 27, 2019 9:44 pm

We havent signed any of hazard Mbappe or pogba chill b
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