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Post by Art Morte Wed May 02, 2012 9:40 pm

About to lose to Newcastle at home, they will trail Newcastle and Tottenham by four points and won't make it into top-4.

I think this is quite remarkable.
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Post by che Wed May 02, 2012 9:42 pm

they can still win the cl...
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Post by Art Morte Wed May 02, 2012 9:50 pm

che wrote:they can still win the cl...

Of course they can, but that won't qualify them for next season's competition.
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Post by Doc Wed May 02, 2012 9:51 pm

Real Madrid finished 5th in the year they won the UCL in 2000. Liverpool was like 30+ points behind the leaders when they won theirs. Yes, it is surprising Chelsea are in the final but it isn't something out of the ordinary.


Also, they can win the UCL although what happen with Liverpool and Everton wouldn't happen again...
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Post by Kick Wed May 02, 2012 9:51 pm

Don't rule us out yet.
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed May 02, 2012 9:52 pm

Art Morte wrote:
che wrote:they can still win the cl...

Of course they can, but that won't qualify them for next season's competition.
LOL grossly misinformed.

If we win the CL, we qualify straight into the group stage. 3rd placed Arsenal will have to play the qualifying rounds.
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Post by che Wed May 02, 2012 9:53 pm

Art Morte wrote:

Of course they can, but that won't qualify them for next season's competition.

pretty sure it will, at the expense of whoever comes fourth in the league...
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Post by Art Morte Wed May 02, 2012 9:55 pm

Huh? You guys sure? I've been all the time in the belief that the winner does not automatically qualify...

Need to check this out right about now...
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Post by justdoit_ Wed May 02, 2012 9:57 pm

Art Morte wrote:Huh? You guys sure? I've been all the time in the belief that the winner does not automatically qualify...

Need to check this out right about now...
Your lot made sure of that. It's a crap rule that was brought in because of the FA's baby-like crying.
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Post by Onyx Wed May 02, 2012 9:59 pm

If they win the CL they'll be in the CL next season.


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Post by Blue Barrett Wed May 02, 2012 9:59 pm

Art Morte wrote:Huh? You guys sure? I've been all the time in the belief that the winner does not automatically qualify...

Need to check this out right about now...
I don't know if you've been a Liverpool fan for that long, but that's exactly what happened with Liverpool in 2005 when they beat Milan in Istanbul.

They finished 5th in the league but UEFA granted them a spot in the CL.

It happened because UEFA did not want a situation where the Champions could not defend their title for the first time ever. They changed the rule that season and made it part of the rules from then on.

The CL spots for a country = Champions + remaining spots(if one of the clubs emerge champions)
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Post by beatrixasdfghjk. Wed May 02, 2012 10:00 pm

Barrettinator wrote:
Art Morte wrote:
che wrote:they can still win the cl...

Of course they can, but that won't qualify them for next season's competition.
LOL grossly misinformed.

If we win the CL, we qualify straight into the group stage. 3rd placed Arsenal will have to play the qualifying rounds.
No, we all qualify straight to the group stage.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/european-qualification-permutations.html

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Post by Art Morte Wed May 02, 2012 10:00 pm

Bloody hell, that's right, the CL winners are granted a place!

My bad :facepalm:
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed May 02, 2012 10:00 pm

justdoit_ wrote:
Art Morte wrote:Huh? You guys sure? I've been all the time in the belief that the winner does not automatically qualify...

Need to check this out right about now...
Your lot made sure of that. It's a crap rule that was brought in because of the FA's baby-like crying.
Another misinformed person!

The FA did not want to include Liverpool in the CL spots despite being champions, that's why UEFA stepped in and changed the rule.
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Post by Blue Barrett Wed May 02, 2012 10:01 pm

beatrixasdfghjk. wrote:
Barrettinator wrote:
Art Morte wrote:
che wrote:they can still win the cl...

Of course they can, but that won't qualify them for next season's competition.
LOL grossly misinformed.

If we win the CL, we qualify straight into the group stage. 3rd placed Arsenal will have to play the qualifying rounds.
No, we all qualify straight to the group stage.
http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/news/news/european-qualification-permutations.html
Thanks for correcting me on that.
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Post by Doc Wed May 02, 2012 10:02 pm

Um, it actually happened before Liverpool. Real Madrid didn't qualify via league and won it in 2000. The issue was left for the LFP to solve and they said Real Madrid would go to the UCL while Zaragoza (who finished 4th that year) would go to the UEFA Cup.

The Liverpool one was different as the FA wanted both teams to go through and typical FA left it for UEFA to decide. Not to seem harsh on either, they gave the green light for both teams to go through. Needless to say, if Everton had beaten Villareal, it would have been an outrage...
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Post by DeviAngel Wed May 02, 2012 10:04 pm

lol I I was Chelsea fans I would trade no cl for CL trophy this season lol
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Post by justdoit_ Wed May 02, 2012 10:06 pm

The FA submitted five names when they were granted four.
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