Re: Winter Transfer Rumours 2018/19

by Warrior Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:29 pm

All this saga for a "good but not great" midfielder

by halamadrid2 Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:24 pm

Experience - check
Free - check
The market is crazy - check
No brainer - check

by Warrior Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:41 pm

Baby attitude - check
Will listen to mom before the coach - check

Rabiot is a decent midfielder just not worth breaking the wage structure for him (if it holds any importance in a said club). As example with that contract he'd be richer than Pjanic who's better than him in every aspect of the game.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:47 pm

he is way better than "decent" he is a very good player with European experience and performances in notable stadiums like the camp nou and the Bernabeu.

Frankly, except for his attitude, it should be a no brainer for most clubs to go after him. PSG and Antero Henrique have also screwed up in this so no wonder he wants to go.

Also, unfair to compare players wages in Italy vs rest of europe. You guys dont pay players well in Italy, period. Isnt Ramsey going to make the same as Pjanic if not more?

by rincon Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:03 pm

That salary would make Rabiot the second highest paid player in serie a, after CR. Free transfer become big salaries, Emre Can makes more than Icardi and Insigne, and most of our players.

by Warrior Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:03 pm

In Rabiot i see a classic midfielder with above average understanding and decent technique. But he is no way elite, more the kind of signing you make to strengthen your midfield than to be your pillar. As i said he is good but not great. Been a hot talk for many months so there is artificial hype around him.

You got me here with Ramsey, of course it's bull shit, 6.5 millions is too much
Rabiot would have been a safer choice than Ramsey honestly, but his mom would ask for more money and playing time guarantees Sleep

by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:10 pm

Ramsey is far better than Rabiot though

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:24 pm

Rabiot is elite, you guys have mud in your eyes lol. you are mixing the personal with his actual quality on the pitch

Also, weren't you calling SMS some kind of generational attacking mid talent last winter? sorry but your player valuation scale is broken

by RealGunner Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:26 pm

Rabiot is a nothing player. Elite in what sense? Won't even get in the top 20 midfielders list. Ramsey is 10 times the player. Juve haven't missed anything but i suppose he is better than Can.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:31 pm

he is definitely one of the best young midfielders in Europe. And the games he has played in CL over the past few years show this.

Ramsey is a very good player too, but he is in his prime, im not going to compare him with a 23 yo Rabiot, but i would argue the difference isnt that big. If not for his contract dispute now, he would be a starter for PSG, and that's clear.

by Warrior Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:39 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Also, weren't you calling SMS some kind of generational attacking mid talent last winter? sorry but your player valuation scale is broken

Me ? no i can't recall that scratch

Must have been someone else

by Luca Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:40 pm

High wages on a free transfer have to be thought of in the context of not having to pay the parent club a transfer fee, allowing the new club to provide larger incentives to the new signing.

Imagine signing Rabiot at 40M and then paying him 5M per year for 5 years versus signing him for 0 and paying him 7.5M for 5 years.

I’d take him at Juve for sure, just better than what we got simply put but I’m also ok with missing out on him. I’m assuming there’s a reason why we’re not linked with a player that fits, is young, free and of a decent profile. Him cucking himself out of a world cup is maybe why

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:42 pm

Warrior wrote:
Mr Nick09 wrote:
Also, weren't you calling SMS some kind of generational attacking mid talent last winter? sorry but your player valuation scale is broken

Me ? no i can't recall that Must have been someone else

by Arquitecto Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:52 pm

Nick you may be mixing up Warrior with Sugar.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:08 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:he is definitely one of the best young midfielders in Europe. And the games he has played in CL over the past few years show this.

Ramsey is a very good player too, but he is in his prime, im not going to compare him with a 23 yo Rabiot, but i would argue the difference isnt that big. If not for his contract dispute now, he would be a starter for PSG, and that's clear.

Lol if that's the case the state of young midfielders in Europe is trash lol.

by Kaladin Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:15 pm

When has Rabiot become this super talent? He's decent at best in most games i've seen, with a few exceptions against Barca. But then again, Jack Wilshere had a career-carrying performance against them, even against a better Barca.

I'm not convinced, he's an adequate midfielder at best if im being honest.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:30 pm

i dont know what a super talent is, but do know i did not call him that. He is a very good player, young, and free. I am arguing the football here, and from what i have seen he is very good at 23.

the level of certain players is romanticized a bit much at times, Rabiot is just as good as a lot of the players you have in mind when you think of quality number 8, all around mid.

by Firenze Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:57 pm

I'm not being sensationalist when I say that Jonjo Shelvey is better than Rabiot.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:15 pm

Firenze wrote:I'm not being sensationalist when I say that Jonjo Shelvey is better than Rabiot.

you thought Eric Baily was an elite player sooooo

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 4:58 pm

#Arsenal offered €4M loan + €40M buy option for Ivan #Perisic. But #Inter have refused because only want to sell Perisic with a permanent deal or obligation to buy.

https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1089567597937508352

by Robespierre Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:04 pm

Marotta " We've listened Perisic words and he requested to be sold. We should try to please him but also respect an asset value at same time"

Marotta a @SkySport: "Dobbiamo convivere con una situazione di mercato che c'è in tante squadre, ovvero quando un giocatore chiedere di andare via. Abbiamo ascoltato Perisic e ha chiesto la cessione: dobbiamo tentare di accontentarlo ma anche rispettare un valore patrimoniale"
— Fabrizio Romano (@FabrizioRomano) January 27, 2019

by Warrior Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:07 pm

He's gone

by RealGunner Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:10 pm

Please not for 35m ffs

by Firenze Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:15 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:
Firenze wrote:I'm not being sensationalist when I say that Jonjo Shelvey is better than Rabiot.
you thought Eric Baily was an elite player sooooo

He's 24 years old. Give it time. 24 as a CB is basically 15 as a forward, tbh.

by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:24 pm

Nothing will beat The telegraph calling Sanchez a young Baresi rofl

by iftikhar Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:29 pm

rincon wrote:That salary would make Rabiot the second highest paid player in serie a, after CR. Free transfer become big salaries, Emre Can makes more than Icardi and Insigne, and most of our players.

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