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Post by Nishankly Thu 06 Jun 2019, 21:32

Myesyats wrote:De Jong looks great though, what you think of him?


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Post by Nishankly Thu 06 Jun 2019, 21:33

Barca and Real spending loads on average players, not going to work with Jovic and De Jong. Just gonna be normal team players.
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Post by Myesyats Thu 06 Jun 2019, 21:40

lmao fair enough but he seems a class above Busquets right now, considering what we have now I see him as a significant upgrade

Busquets-Rakitic-Arthur is arguably the worst midfield in football atm
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Post by Myesyats Thu 06 Jun 2019, 22:27

Wow that corner was insane. De Ligt redeemed himself :bow:
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Post by Jay29 Thu 06 Jun 2019, 22:34

Remember when offside was invented to prevent goal hanging?

Now we're using tech to punish players having a toe offside.

Can't help but feel something has been lost here.

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Post by Unique Thu 06 Jun 2019, 23:24

How the fuck are England getting beat by this bunch of scrubs. Same shit different day.
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Post by sportsczy Thu 06 Jun 2019, 23:28

Netherlands are NOT scrubs.  They're far more talented than England NT.  Take their top 5 players and compare them to England's top 5...  and i take the Netherlands.

Neither of these NTs are elite in any case. But they're both good.
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Post by Unique Thu 06 Jun 2019, 23:33

sportsczy wrote:Netherlands are NOT scrubs.  They're far more talented than England NT.  Take their top 5 players and compare them to England's top 5...  and i take the Netherlands.

Neither of these NTs are elite in any case. But they're both good.
stop with the Anglophobia
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Post by Winter is Coming Thu 06 Jun 2019, 23:37

Unique wrote:How the fuck are England getting beat by this bunch of scrubs. Same shit different day.


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Post by sportsczy Thu 06 Jun 2019, 23:39

Van Djik, De Ligt, De Jong, Depay and Ven De Beek

or

Kane, Sterling, Ali... who else really. And I don't rate Ali at all tbh.
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Post by Perucho21 Fri 07 Jun 2019, 00:40

De ligt was incredible. No wonder why top clubs around Europe and Man United want to sign him
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Post by Doc Fri 07 Jun 2019, 02:41

Unique wrote:How the fuck are England getting beat by this bunch of scrubs. Same shit different day.

Was wondering if you were just being dramatic as usual but I am seeing Depay, some guy named Roon, another guy named Bergwjin (I assume he is a PSV lad), Babel, a guy literally named Dumfries and Blind started.

I mean, if there was a chance for England to make an international competition final since, shit, 1966(?), it was against this version of the Dutch team lol.
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Post by Jay29 Fri 07 Jun 2019, 09:15

Both teams are about even, talent wise, and I say that as someone who's down on a lot of our players.

I'd take England's full backs (Walker, Chilwell, Alexander-Arnold) and forwards (Kane, Sterling, Sancho) over the Netherlands', but they have vastly superior centre backs and central midfielders.

Unfortunately, the Dutch having better defenders and midfielders is why we lost last night. De Jong ran the game and De Ligt/Van Dijk had fewer mistakes in them than Stones/Maguire. We tried to play out all game, but our lack of a playmaker in midfielder - besides Barkley, who had a good game - meant the options were never there, and that provoked them into taking more risks that didn't pay off.

Things got a bit better when Henderson came on, but our lack of a good controlling midfielder will haunt us even as good talent comes through else where. All our good midfield talent are attacking midfielders.

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Post by Robespierre Fri 07 Jun 2019, 12:25

England were not lucky too, an English CL final exactly 1 week before of their closest chance to get a final.
And of course Liverpool / Tottenham players couldn't care about it
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Post by Unique Fri 07 Jun 2019, 12:25

Doc wrote:
Unique wrote:How the fuck are England getting beat by this bunch of scrubs. Same shit different day.

Was wondering if you were just being dramatic as usual but I am seeing Depay, some guy named Roon, another guy named Bergwjin (I assume he is a PSV lad), Babel, a guy literally named Dumfries and Blind started.

I mean, if there was a chance for England to make an international competition final since, shit, 1966(?), it was against this version of the Dutch team lol.
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Post by Unique Fri 07 Jun 2019, 12:29

england have the same problem liverpool had over the past few years. they play the occasion and not the game thats why when the big games come around they go into there shell and give up the ball and just try not to lose.
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Post by Vibe Sat 08 Jun 2019, 10:58

I don't know if anyone watched Ukraine - Serbia last night, but despite Serbia getting smashed that was pure footballing pleasure.

A must watch, despite massive bottlejob by Serbian coach who thought he was Guardiola and put 7 attackers on and made it real easy for them, the kind of football Ukraine played was mouthwatering. If there are any football fans left on this forum who actually know anything aside from trolling, this will be a feast.

I don't knownif this was a one off since I haven't watched Ukraine before, but if this is a trend, Shevchenko is in for greater things as a manager.
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Post by rincon Sun 09 Jun 2019, 21:20

Netherlands are a step below Portugal here
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun 09 Jun 2019, 21:23

this netherlands team is a collection of jobbers, how did they make it here ffs?
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Post by rincon Sun 09 Jun 2019, 21:36

Well England are bigger jobbers
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Post by Winter is Coming Sun 09 Jun 2019, 21:50

Portugal the more dominate team.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun 09 Jun 2019, 21:51

Mr Nick09 wrote:this netherlands team is a collection of jobbers, how did they make it here ffs?


Two players from Liverpool, three from Ajax, CL winners and semifinalists repectively, there is quality and most of all confidence in this team these days.
The development Wijnaldum took under Klopp, a proper midfield tank and leader now, benefits the NT team immensely.

Also they have a good coach, a real coach, good, not great, in terms of top club football, excellent in terms of NT level.
Barely any other NT can sport a proper coach like Koeman is.
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Post by rincon Sun 09 Jun 2019, 22:13

You are forgetting that most importantly they start an Atalanta player

But yeah no contest. Portugal is better
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun 09 Jun 2019, 22:25

Both foul and a handball within one second, Netherlands should have a penalty here
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Post by Myesyats Sun 09 Jun 2019, 22:52

United States of Brexit look REALLY poor now....
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Post by Winter is Coming Sun 09 Jun 2019, 22:55

I perfer this second Copa and this Nation Cup competition to friendlies tbh this players and national side to compete for something.
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