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Post by elfmeter Mon Sep 03, 2018 2:47 pm

The start of the UEFA nations league kicks off on Thursday with France v Germany. I still dont fully understand how it works, no one does,it's like the weather or Watford, you just cant explain it, but I know it does have promotion and relegation and some way for small teams to make the Euro nations cup. Also, League A group winners play in euro cup like championship every couple of years.

League A

Group 1: France, Germany, Netherlands

Group 2: Belgium, Iceland, Switzerland

Group 3: Italy, Poland, Portugal

Group 4: Croatia, England, Spain

League B

Group 1: Czech Republic, Slovakia, Ukraine

Group 2: Russia, Sweden, Turkey

Group 3: Austria, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Northern Ireland

Group 4: Denmark, Republic of Ireland, Wales

League C

Group 1: Albania, Israel, Scotland

Group 2: Estonia, Finland, Greece, Hungary

Group 3: Bulgaria, Cyprus, Norway, Slovenia

Group 4: Lithuania, Montenegro, Romania, Serbia

League D

Group 1: Andorra, Georgia, Kazakhstan, Latvia

Group 2: Belarus, Luxembourg, Moldova, San Marino

Group 3: Azerbaijan, Faroe Islands, Kosovo, Malta

Group 4: Armenia, Macedonia, Gibraltar Liechtenstein

Read more at https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/uefa-nations-league-explained-how-does-it-work#tKVLtRyywETYdYLy.99
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:44 pm

So now is the moment I have to occupy myself with this shit and how it works eh

haven't so far
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Post by Freeza Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:48 pm

Denmark might not even field a team. And if we do it'll be an absolute mess of a 7th string team.

There's an ongoing union dispute and our NT has and the FA have not been able to resolve it.

We've got the worst FA bar none.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:51 pm

I tried reading the 442 article and failed to comprehend anything

I just want to know this: how does relegation work? Is it only the winner of the league, or the winner of each group? Does every group loser get relegated?

For instance, in League A Group 4, is one of these guaranteed to get relegated?

Group 4: Croatia, England, Spain
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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:56 pm

Freeza wrote:Denmark might not even field a team. And if we do it'll be an absolute mess of a 7th string team.

There's an ongoing union dispute and our NT has and the FA have not been able to resolve it.

We've got the worst FA bar none.


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. France invented strikes and we've never done this lol.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 03, 2018 5:57 pm

@bc... no idea. Our group has Germany, Netherlands and France.
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Post by rincon Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:01 pm

Every group loser gets relegated. Uefa released a video and a set of guidelines back with the announcement. Nothing complicated about it.

Every group plays home and away, winners get promoted, losers get relegated. In the top division the group winners play a semi and final to decide the overall winner. Group winners of the non-top division also get a chance to qualify to the euros with a play-off system.

That's all. It's just a way to remove friendlies and make games more competitive by grouping them with similar teams in divisions, instead of giving us Germany-San Marino.


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Post by Freeza Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:01 pm

sportsczy wrote:
Freeza wrote:Denmark might not even field a team. And if we do it'll be an absolute mess of a 7th string team.

There's an ongoing union dispute and our NT has and the FA have not been able to resolve it.

We've got the worst FA bar none.


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. France invented strikes and we've never done this lol.


The FA has sent out a notice to the Danish league clubs that all Danish players who wish to play for the NT should inform them right away.

Can’t imagine those players would be well-liked by the players union. It’s a hell of a messy situation.

The NT suggested to the FA that they could extend their current deal with the FA a month to give them time to negotiate a new deal before the October games.

God damn mess. We might not even be able to field a team against Wales this weekend.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:12 pm

rincon wrote:Every group loser gets relegated. Uefa released a video and a set of guidelines back with the announcement. Nothing complicated about it.

Every group plays home and away, winners get promoted, losers get relegated.
Nice, that should make for some juicy matches, there are some stacked groups on that list
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Post by rincon Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:15 pm

I've always been positive about this idea. Friendlies were much more pointless. Would rather watch Italy play Poland and Portugal in competitive games, than random friendlies were usually one team doesn't care about the match. Even if they do, the game is done in 45 minutes when 10 subs get thrown on the pitch and the football is broken.
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Post by Freeza Mon Sep 03, 2018 6:20 pm

I love this. Especially for the small nations who can finally try what it feels like to compete in games. Can't imagine it helps moral for countries like Andorra to lose very game 10-0
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:16 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:I tried reading the 442 article and failed to comprehend anything

I just want to know this: how does relegation work? Is it only the winner of the league, or the winner of each group? Does every group loser get relegated?

For instance, in League A Group 4, is one of these guaranteed to get relegated?

Group 4: Croatia, England, Spain


I want to know much more basic stuff

i.e. how is the connection between this Nations cup and Euros/Euros qualification

Is this just a new name on a competition-like approach to the former friendlies, or is it a pre-tournament to Euro qualifiers?

could not find out how anything from this article lmao
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Post by sportsczy Mon Sep 03, 2018 7:59 pm

https://www.uefa.com/uefanationsleague/news/newsid=2079553.html

Not that it makes it any less confusing lol
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Post by zigra Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:41 am

To be fair going by that article it's not that complicated though I have to say it makes the whole thing really just barely more than friendlies.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:46 am

rincon wrote:Every group loser gets relegated. Uefa released a video and a set of guidelines back with the announcement. Nothing complicated about it.

Every group plays home and away, winners get promoted, losers get relegated. In the top division the group winners play a semi and final to decide the overall winner. Group winners of the non-top division also get a chance to qualify to the euros with a play-off system.

That's all. It's just a way to remove friendlies and make games more competitive by grouping them with similar teams in divisions, instead of giving us Germany-San Marino.


Germany-San Marino never happened in the friendlies anyway. It happened in qualification, and obviously in qualification everyone should get a chance.
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Post by rincon Tue Sep 04, 2018 10:53 am

Hapless_Hans wrote:
rincon wrote:Every group loser gets relegated. Uefa released a video and a set of guidelines back with the announcement. Nothing complicated about it.

Every group plays home and away, winners get promoted, losers get relegated. In the top division the group winners play a semi and final to decide the overall winner. Group winners of the non-top division also get a chance to qualify to the euros with a play-off system.

That's all. It's just a way to remove friendlies and make games more competitive by grouping them with similar teams in divisions, instead of giving us Germany-San Marino.


Germany-San Marino never happened in the friendlies anyway. It happened in qualification, and obviously in qualification everyone should get a chance.

Everyone still gets the same qualifying chance + smaller teams get their playoff chance to make it to euros through the nations league. Friendlies were mostly worse than competitive games. At least now teams should actually try.
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Post by sportsczy Tue Sep 04, 2018 1:06 pm

I think this works only in the context of bigger fields in the Euro.  Makes pool play a waste of time other than 2 games but whatever.

I personally hate it  in concept.  The best teams that can compete should be the only ones playing in the big competitions over the summer.  You don't want players getting tired, injured or booked against shit teams. Also, the untalented teams just park the bus and kick the players on better teams (see Iceland for example). That's not football to me. You're allowed to play defensive... but at least do it in the context of really counter attacking.
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Post by Freeza Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:28 pm

We’re legit gonna play a squad of amateur players rofl
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Post by Freeza Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:36 pm

We’re gonna play a combination of amateurs and futsal NT players.

God I hope this happens rofl
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Post by Robespierre Tue Sep 04, 2018 2:44 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:So now is the moment I have to occupy myself with this shit and how it works eh

haven't so far


Yeah , we few who are part of the  "wagon Club >>> NT " http://www.goallegacy.net/t41539-your-club-winning-treble-vs-your-country-winning-wc are going to boycott this shit :coffee:
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Post by Freeza Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:18 pm

There’s literally players from the 6th tier in Danish football rofl
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Post by Freeza Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:55 am

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This is absolutely wild rofl
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Post by sportsczy Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:47 pm

i might watch now Freeza lol

You should have let them know you're available to play ffs.
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Post by Freeza Wed Sep 05, 2018 1:50 pm

sportsczy wrote:i might watch now Freeza lol


My friend has played with a couple of them (they're not very good).

Says this Anders Fønss is a hugely aggressive guy who makes two footed tackles.

I'm so ready for this shit. It's the weirdest thing I've ever witnessed in football
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