I obviously meant from when they were, it was obvious back then that eventually something like this would happen.

As much nobody neutral really wanted to accept it.

sportsczy wrote:It's just strange that you create a free market economy for the elite teams...  and then you apply socialism for everyone below them.  

The elitism is unbelievable in the sense that Europe just lets it happen.

The only group that can break this are the players themselves as it happened with the Bosman ruling.

I mean it's not that unbelievable is it? I'm sure The most successful team in CL history winning 3 in a row is very lucrative for UEFA.

They are probably delighted by it, Porto vs Monaco finals is probably what they don't want lol.

Surely another team will come along and get 3 maybe 4 in a row again, but it will take time. As for next season, without a serious makeover, RM will struggle in LL and CL, so honestly it could be anyone- City, PSG, Barca, could all win it among others.

Those are two extremes though Mole... most often, you had very attractive finals. Leverkusen, Dortmund, Valencia, Inter, Ajax, OM, Arsenal, Milan, Man U, Bayern, Juve, Liverpool... to go along with Madrid and Barca. You literally had every elimination round game almost that was competitive.

Those were the days. That's what created football's popularity. You're going to disenfranchise a lot of fans at some point if both league and European competitions are predetermined for the most part before the start of the season. Or at least, that's my case. I used to watch a ton of football all the time... now, only the big games. It's become boring.

I still stand by my opinion that Barca were extremely lucky on their road to the CL trophy in 2015, with practically every other relevant team struggling with injuries. Sure, they had Neymar and Suarez hitting red hot form at just the right time, but no one actually posed a challenge against them and I don't believe it was due to their overwhelming quality. They won the final against an injury-ridden Juventus side that, if I remember correctly, got additional injuries in their semi-final against and injury-ridden, R. Madrid side. Won the final comfortably without even breaking a sweat. And this occured after advancing past City, PSG and Bayern, who all had injuries to key players, as well. I've always wondered why no one seemed to care about that statistically improbable streak of luck, considering how much people seem to care about it in general.

ftr barca stand no chance. friendly reminder that zidane madrid is UNDEFEATED in camp nou since he took over as manager.

if we met in a 2 leg match, Barca would need one hell of an away game to knock us out. such pressure and our own dominance in cl spell disaster for barca.

but its okay. we got to fall sometime.

sportsczy wrote:Those are two extremes though Mole... most often, you had very attractive finals. Leverkusen, Dortmund, Valencia, Inter, Ajax, OM, Arsenal, Milan, Man U, Bayern, Juve, Liverpool... to go along with Madrid and Barca. You literally had every elimination round game almost that was competitive.

Those were the days. That's what created football's popularity. You're going to disenfranchise a lot of fans at some point if both league and European competitions are predetermined for the most part before the start of the season. Or at least, that's my case. I used to watch a ton of football all the time... now, only the big games. It's become boring.

Totally agree.
This was one of most boring football years ever probably.
I don't remember a surprise this year.
Every league was won by favorite team and same both for CL and EL.

sportsczy wrote:Those are two extremes though Mole... most often, you had very attractive finals. Leverkusen, Dortmund, Valencia, Inter, Ajax, OM, Arsenal, Milan, Man U, Bayern, Juve, Liverpool... to go along with Madrid and Barca. You literally had every elimination round game almost that was competitive.

Those were the days. That's what created football's popularity. You're going to disenfranchise a lot of fans at some point if both league and European competitions are predetermined for the most part before the start of the season. Or at least, that's my case. I used to watch a ton of football all the time... now, only the big games. It's become boring.

Would agree with that, honestly I'm already disillusioned with it all tbh.

Although admittedly that started with Pardew so I can't blame Uefa fully.

Barcelona will do it, They just need to face Real once.

The best way to knock us out would be in a 2 legged tie because we don't lose finals. Regarding our 3/3, that's what happens when the team is fully focused and not defending like they are forced to

Turok_TTZ wrote:ftr barca stand no chance. friendly reminder that zidane madrid is UNDEFEATED in camp nou since he took over as manager.

if we met in a 2 leg match, Barca would need one hell of an away game to knock us out. such pressure and our own dominance in cl spell disaster for barca.

but its okay. we got to fall sometime.

That's a weird argument tbh.
You do know you lost your last 3 home games against Barcelona in the league with an overall goal difference of 2-10

Nishankly wrote:Barcelona will do it, They just need to face Real once.

They aren't consistent enough, there's a reason they keep losing before that point can even be contested.

Juventus

We got this for the family

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Nishankly wrote:Barcelona will do it, They just need to face Real once.

They aren't consistent enough, there's a reason they keep losing before that point can even be contested.

They will, The moment they get a chance to face Real early on. If that ever happens.

zigra wrote:

Turok_TTZ wrote:ftr barca stand no chance. friendly reminder that zidane madrid is UNDEFEATED in camp nou since he took over as manager.

if we met in a 2 leg match, Barca would need one hell of an away game to knock us out. such pressure and our own dominance in cl spell disaster for barca.

but its okay. we got to fall sometime.

That's a weird argument tbh.
You do know you lost your last 3 home games against Barcelona in the league with an overall goal difference of 2-10

I was gonna say I was pretty sure Barca have a better record away to Madrid than they do at home.

Even when Guardiola was there I'm pretty sure that was the case.

Yes Clasicos are always reversed for some reason. Bernabeu feels like Barcas homeground and Camp Nou like ours. Probably to do with the little noise the home fans make compared to other teams who are strong at home

Luca wrote:Juventus

We got this for the family

not if you keep signing average ass midfielders ffs

sportsczy wrote:@mole... i hate FFP and UEFA's "historical coefficient" bs. They're making club football noncompetitive because it's near impossible as a result of these two regulations for any new team to break into the top.

As if these elite teams didn't buy their way into becoming elite...

The FFP is easily the worst thing ever happened in football

RealGunner wrote:

Luca wrote:Juventus

We got this for the family

not if you keep signing average ass midfielders ffs

It’s going to be a cruel summer for ya

This might be unexpected for some but I had a dream and I actually think it's going to be us! MARK MY WORDS BRETHREN

Just read that the next final is at Atletis ground. Was wondering what could motivate our players to do 4/4 well there we have it

Thimmy wrote:I still stand by my opinion that Barca were extremely lucky on their road to the CL trophy in 2015, with practically every other relevant team struggling with injuries. Sure, they had Neymar and Suarez hitting red hot form at just the right time, but no one actually posed a challenge against them and I don't believe it was due to their overwhelming quality. They won the final against an injury-ridden Juventus side that, if I remember correctly, got additional injuries in their semi-final against and injury-ridden, R. Madrid side. Won the final comfortably without even breaking a sweat. And this occured after advancing past City, PSG and Bayern, who all had injuries to key players, as well. I've always wondered why no one seemed to care about that statistically improbable streak of luck, considering how much people seem to care about it in general.

I actually agree with you and said as much at the time. You can't deny that Real has been the same though.

I honestly believe Juventus can go all the way as long as we get that " top " cm and not a promising or up and coming CM. We are one kovacic/sms/pogbs/vidal away. If we sell AS and get rubbish coming in and darmian is his replacement and not actually for rotation with DS at right back then we may as well not even enter the comp next year. We cannot win the CL with khedira or marchisio as our only other technically gifted cm's apart from pjanic. Matuidi,can,bentancur more then enough cover for dm's but we only have pjanic as a top quality technically gifted cm. Khedira and Marchisio aren't relevant anymore.

Juve have no chance. Come on. Buffon is gone. Chiellinni and Barzagli are on their last leg. Higuan is in his 30s. Matuidi and Khedira as well.

That team has peaked and needs to rebuild.

sportsczy wrote:Juve have no chance.  Come on.  Buffon is gone.  Chiellinni and Barzagli are on their last leg.   Higuan is in his 30s.  Matuidi and Khedira as well.

That team has peaked and needs to rebuild.  

Mate I know its well documented on here you hate Italian clubs lol but come on stop underrating us its stupid. Yeah fine if we sell star players and replace them with garbage or we dont add quality we have no chance but you are ignorant of our quality.

so far our starting 11 next season might look like

scz/perin

darmian-rugani/caldara-chiellini/barzagli/benatia? AS
can-pjanic-X new player/khedira
DC-dybala-higuain.

If we get a quality cm stop being ignorant and show us respect we deserve

Kaladin wrote:
-Roma? No.

Nice and succinct. Much appreciated!