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Post by Hapless_Hans Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:28 pm

1st round, no surprises so far, all favourites did proceed

that will change Monday, at the latest


Bayern won 5:0 at Chemnitz, the game was officiated by Bibiane Steinhaus, the first woman referee in BuLi

Here's what Ribéry did rofl pale

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Post by sportsczy Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:31 pm

Laughing This one's 18 at least
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Post by Doc Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:33 pm

Honestly, I would have done the same really.
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Post by Dante Sat Aug 12, 2017 6:42 pm

Ribery rofl rofl rofl

LMAO
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 14, 2017 3:20 pm

In this hour I am reminded of how tragic it is that RWO is no longer with us, as I'm about to go and watch her beloved Schalke with their new kid coach face their nemesis BFC Dynamo Berlin in the cup Sad Sad
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Aug 20, 2017 6:56 pm

Draw for the 2nd round:


1. FC Magdeburg - Borussia Dortmund

1. FC Schweinfurt 05 - Eintracht Frankfurt

VfL Osnabrück - 1. FC Nürnberg

SC Paderborn - VfL Bochum

Wehen Wiesbaden - Schalke 04

Fortuna Düsseldorf - Borussia Mönchengladbach

FSV Mainz 05 - Holstein Kiel

Hertha BSC - 1. FC Köln

Bayer Leverkusen - Union Berlin

Jahn Regensburg - 1. FC Heidenheim

VfL Wolfsburg - Hannover 96

Werder Bremen - 1899 Hoffenheim

1. FC Kaiserslautern - VfB Stuttgart

SpVgg Greuther Fürth - FC Ingolstadt

SC Freiburg - Dynamo Dresden

RB Leipzig - FC Bayern

Games to be played on 24th and 25th October
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Post by iftikhar Mon Aug 21, 2017 9:06 am

What are the odds for any upsets???
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 21, 2017 5:34 pm

iftikhar wrote:What are the odds for any upsets???


Not very probable, depending what you class as an upset.

There's quite a few BuLi vs BuLi duels so any result there is not an upset.

The only games of BuLi teams against opponents from much lower leagues are Dortmund und Schalke (against 3rd Bundesliga opponents) and Frankfurt against 4th division Schweinfurt.

Dortmund and Schalke won't lose, IMO, Frankfurt could but I don't think so.

The rest is BuLi vs 2nd BuLi

There the most likely true upset IMO will be Leverkusen losing against Union Berlin from 2nd BuLi. I'd like that very much.

Gladbach losing against Düsseldorf (a proper derby) is quite possible, as is Mainz against Kiel, those would be small upsets.

Stuttgart might very well lose against Kaiserslautern, but there's not much between the teams anyway so that's not an upset. Dresden is always good for a Pokal fight, but them kicking out Freiburg wouldn't be a huge story either.
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Post by iftikhar Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:23 pm

WTF

RB Leipzig - FC Bayern

Didn't notice it earlier. How did it happen???
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:29 pm

iftikhar wrote:WTF

RB Leipzig - FC Bayern

Didn't notice it earlier. How did it happen???


How? By chance Laughing
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Post by iftikhar Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:31 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
iftikhar wrote:WTF

RB Leipzig - FC Bayern

Didn't notice it earlier. How did it happen???


How? By chance Laughing
Huh, I thought there's some sort of seeding which means top-tier teams draw lower-lever opponents.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:43 pm

There isn't. Everyone can be drawn against anyone at any point.

The only stipulation is that 'amateur' teams (4th division and beyond) drawn against a top 3 division team will always get a home game.
In 15/16 too, we had to play Wolfsburg (then the reigning cup winners) in the 2nd round already.

Actually just today, because of the Leipzig Bayern draw, there was a discussion about introducing seeding but most people, including Hoeness publicly today, have come out against changes.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Aug 21, 2017 6:53 pm

Ok I looked it up and I wrote a number of wrong things in the above post.

First of all, the automatic home game is not amateur vs professionals, but any teams lower than BuLi against a BuLi team.

Then, in the first 2 rounds there's indeed seeding, i.e. two pots. I did not actually know that. You were right.

1. Round:
Pot 1: 18 Buli teams plus first 14 2nd Buli teams
Pot 2: The rest (last 4 of 2nd BuLi, first 4 of 3rd BuLi, 24 lower division teams inculding the local federation cup winners)

2nd round:
Pot 1: teams from 1st and 2nd BuLi
Pot 2 the rest
- as here, one pot might be bigger than the other, the remaining teams from one pot are drawn against each other.
Guess that is what happened this year, with all BuLi teams (except HSV) having advanced..

after this 2nd round, round of last 16 and further, no seeding or pots anymore
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:03 pm

Bayer 04 Leverkusen vs 1. FC "Ironclad" Union Berlin is ON

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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:16 pm

and Brandt scores the 1:0
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:42 pm

goooooooooooooaaaall

50 seconds into the 2nd half UNION SCORE

1:1
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Post by RealGunner Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:43 pm

Are Union a good team?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:58 pm

Yes. Are coached by Keller, ex-Schalke coach (some may remember, he was that no name guy from the Schalke 2nd team that did quite well as far as Schalke go)

They've been upper table, close to promotion, in 2nd BuLi for a while now.
Well supported, from east Berlin (Hertha are west), arguably the no.1 club of Berliner people.

They cam very, very close to promotion last year though any fans are happy to have stayed in 2nd BuLi, no idea what renovations would have been necessary to the Alte Försterei stadium and some feared it might be bad for finances, and the fans' purse too.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:00 pm

2:1 again, Alario. Union hit the bar now.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:05 pm

It has to be said, while Leverkusen field more or less thier strongest 11, Union have played their B-team Laughing

Polter, their best striker, coming on now.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:12 pm

Leno with a world class save against Polter, Union pushing for the equalizer
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Post by RealGunner Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:20 pm

What do you think about Mainz-Kiel?
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:21 pm

ffs Leverkusen get a completely wrong penalty

No VAR in the Pokal :facepalm:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:24 pm

RealGunner wrote:What do you think about Mainz-Kiel?


Upset possible.

Holstein Kiel are completely surprising and out of nowhere 2nd placed in 2. BuLi, as a newly promoted side.
I don't know anything about them but they seem to be flying.

What I do know is that never there has been a Bundesliga side from the federal state of Schleswig-Holstein though, and I doubt Kiel will hang on long enough to change that historical fact.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:27 pm

FT 4:1. Bayer scored a penalty, and a free kick by Aranguiz, in the last couple of minutes.
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