At what point does Simeone take blame?

What blame lol. Without him these scrubs would be fighting for europa spot instead they are making to CL semis regularly.

CL semi final 3 seasons in a row for these scrubs, Simeone is a magician

People need to stop comparing top 5 Spanish teams to top 5 English teams. They are not in comparision. Even Sociedad is playing better then Liverpool. Simeone did a amazing job with Atletico Madrid - but the cycle has ended, and his renewal of tactics doesn't work with these kind of players. He has no blame to be given. He worked wonders with this team. Hope he stays in La Liga, or else goes to coach the Argentine NT.

Don't call me James wrote:Okay they get bent over once. This team is legendary it can happen. Okay it happens twice. Maybe it just wasn't their day. Three times? What? Four times? gtfo.

Looks to me like Simeone has no clue what to do tactically.

you say that about simeone and you back klopp all the way.

Gonna hazard a real guess here in that McAgger is just totting since Atletico couldn't beat his former club and I'm sure he was looking forward to that.

He will take blame at the point to which like Klopp, the exploitation of their losses come down tactically to which mistakes are not being learned from ie a general life dynamic as well as a platform to success. Does Klopp deserve the leeway Simeone does? Nowhere near, though.

I have noticed Atleti truly declined when Simeone in the nascent part of the stage pushed towards a more progressive and flair-based style of play. Which have resulted in more goals yet Atleti was a side based on their stubborn defence and pure discipline and while he or some fans possibly welcome that change and respect that risk, the elasticity of their system has been figuratively stretched to the point where their identity is not the same anymore.

Added with the fact that they have always been a team of scrubs; with highly highly overrated players such as Godin, Carrasco, Koke (always a myth). Scrubs such as Savic and a past it Godin and sadly, Fernando Torres.

And added the fact that this team yet again is at this latter stage of the CL is a miracle.

Their style and mentality requires a great deal of focus and mental fuel to which also I see has run out cause there is only so much you can produce when it comes to this format of Simeone's and for this long.

They are not underdogs anymore hence why their edge is lost, added with the fact that cycles rise and fall and that is just a part of football, a part of life.


Time is overdue for him to leave and should have been done for a new challenge after last years CL loss. We all will miss those evenings at the Calderon where the fans outperform the faithful at the Bernabeu to the point where its embarassing and Diego orchestrating the fans but the time is done and Atleti won't be this good in a long long time.

Lucifer wrote:What blame lol. Without him these scrubs would be fighting for europa spot instead they are making to CL semis regularly.

As usual when a thread like this people are jumping off both ends.

McAgger is going too far and those defending Simeone calling those players scrubs are being just as ridiculous.

If Atletico players are scrubs then every team in the world is full of scrubs save a handful of teams.

There was a time when this was the case but not anymore, Atletico have a great team full of really talented players.

More talented than Real's? no but they never were and the Tottenham comparison is laughable. Let Spurs get out of the CL group stage first lol.

Mr Nick09 wrote:Oblak is one of the best CB in europe, Godin one of the most dominant, Gimenez was the next goat in line, and Savic is good too;Filipe has long been held a brilliant and complete Fullback, one of the best in europe; Koke is one of the game best CM, Saul is a great all around midfielder; Griezmann is often compared to CR and Messi, Carrasco is one of europe great wingers.

Euhhh they have a great squad, they easily compare to spurs

Getting Atletico to change their style has not worked as well as last season, and Atletico's bench has not responded or pushed the first team: Correa, Gameiro, TOrres, Gaitan, Lucas at times, even Gimenez this season, a lot of underwhelmed. Just the end of a cycle, and a squad not evolving as fast or as well as their competition in europe

Oblak is a GK and I have no idea why people rate him highly, he is clearly much worse than Lloris in any case. Saul is very good but nothing special, Koke is also highly overrated. What evidence is there that Carrasco is "one of the best wingers in Europe"? Guy is not even the best winger in his NT, Mertens is.

breva wrote:Spurs are miles better than this Atletico side? That's an astonishing assertion. Didn't Spurs lose to Bayer at some point, a club at the lower end og the Bundesliga table. Lloris is one of the best GKs in the world?

I guess you were kidding. You almost got me. LOL

Lloris absolutely is one for the best. He has been great for 3 or 4 seasons now.

And I agree that Spurs have a deficit when it comes to Europe but we are talking about squad strength here, not performances. The fact that Atleti make it as far as they do us to their credit.

Lloris may be one of the best in the EPL, but can't seem to hack it against half decent European clubs.

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