English Premier League '16-'17 Discussion - Part 14

Firenze wrote:Boro's a free win, they're down, won't care about parking and countering. West Ham could be tricky though.

and that could be the problem. the pressure is off them.

Comes down to West Ham, Who we will not be able to beat, Then it'll all come down to Boro, Who again we will not be able to beat.

4th is Arsenal's to lose.

I don't think Arsenal win all of their games either for what it's worth. Think top 4 is a wrap as it is. Hopefully they prove me wrong though. Wenger

the lower ranking in the table, lesser the possibility for us to get three points

Nishankly wrote:Comes down to West Ham, Who we will not be able to beat, Then it'll all come down to Boro, Who again we will not be able to beat.

4th is Arsenal's to lose.

if we fail to beat either of them teams questions need to be asked tbh.

Helmer wrote:the lower ranking in the table, lesser the possibility for us to get three points

Klopp will come under fire if we don't get the CL, The meltdown will be pretty massive inb4fraudenze.

He'll get another year easily though regardless of this season. Getting the CL will allow him to finally bring the the CB, CM and ST he wants.

Pretty crucial this and I know we'll bottle it just like the mental midgets we are.

It would be typical Liverpool to beat West Ham away from home and then lose to relegated Middlesbrough.

Before that happens though the orcs will finish us, it's the game of their season.

It would take a massive bottlejob for Liverpool to mess this up.

urbaNRoots wrote:

It would take a massive bottlejob for Liverpool to mess this up.

Which isn't hard considering we do blow things away every season.

Need a Leicester madness next week, Baldiola needs to feel the pressure imo

Nishankly wrote:Klopp will come under fire if we don't get the CL, The meltdown will be pretty massive inb4fraudenze.

He'll get another year easily though regardless of this season. Getting the CL will allow him to finally bring the the CB, CM and ST he wants.

Pretty crucial this and I know we'll bottle it just like the mental midgets we are.

the biggest problem I have with klopp is he never learns or changes anything in these games against the scrub teams. its like he is thinking these teams will soon stop using this simple tactic to beat us.

He can't change tactics now, He had a chance in January and he didn't use it. Everyone associated with the club has accepted that and moved on. We just have to wait and see how it plays out, No point even thinking about tactics now mate.

Its backfired in a major way that Coutinho, Mane, Lallana, Henderson, Matip missed huge chunks regularly but he's managed to keep our hopes and dreams alive with a Lucas-Can midfield tbf

I've stopped hyping Arsenal kids for a while now but Rob Holding is a legit talent.

I should say while I don't think it's going to happen, it would be *bleep* hilarious if Arsenal finish in the top 4 again lmao.

Lol part of me badly want to finish 4th

EL doesn't suit us ffs

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:I should say while I don't think it's going to happen, it would be *bleep* hilarious if Arsenal finish in the top 4 again lmao.

Liverpool:

2014 bottled league
2015 bottled 2 semi finals
2016 bottled 2 cup finals

2017..................................................................

Nishankly wrote:He can't change tactics now, He had a chance in January and he didn't use it. Everyone associated with the club has accepted that and moved on. We just have to wait and see how it plays out, No point even thinking about tactics now mate.

Its backfired in a major way that Coutinho, Mane, Lallana, Henderson, Matip missed huge chunks regularly but he's managed to keep our hopes and dreams alive with a Lucas-Can midfield tbf

its not major changes that's needed. he said the other day that the problem we have is the fullbacks push forward and leave the CB exposed to the ball in behind. that's why our centre backs look like scrubs. the fullbacks just push on and leave us with the 2 CB  on the half way line and the other team just punts the ball down the line in behind that means one CB has to come over and the other CB is out numbered by the on rushing players. the  FB cant get back in time because they are to far forward. its so simple its unreal. klopp can see it happen but it seems but never does anything to combat it. what I would do is give up possession of the ball and let them comit more men forward and do to them what they do to us. but if teams are exposing your fullbacks when they bomb forward you have to stop that yet we never do.

I'd just put that down to players being absolute scrubs atm. I hope we have a new CB, LB and DM.

Nishankly wrote:I'd just put that down to players being absolute scrubs atm. I hope we have a new CB, LB and DM.

I agree we need better players but a simple change in tactics would go a long way to fixing the problem.

Just checked the league table

Man United back to 6th

Best thing Arsenal have done all season.

United are closer to Everton than they are to Spurs

We just need West Ham to draw against Liverpool and us winning the remainder of our fixtures and then we have top 4 right?
Sounds attainable to me.

we gave up on chasing 4th when we played half fit reserves against Arsenal. Focusing on securing the treble with the Europa League.

Well it's true, unlike Lol Liga where you can field youth players against the 15 irrelevant sides and win easily, every game in the PL is a challenge, especially without a proper fit team.

Beating Celta again and then Ajax is far easier than beating Arsenal and Spurs for a shot at 4th. EL's the right approach.