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Mistake that we are not signing a back up DM, mistake, mistake, mistake.

If Casemiro is injured, all of what Zidane built, which essentially rests on him, goes to shit

BTW, aren't Madrid getting a transfer ban soon? Surprised that they aren't doing more.

Our ban will be similar to Barca's. We have appealed so nothing is official yet. The ban wil probably come into effect following the Winter transfer window. I know this transfer season is unlike anything we've done before but we have addressed all our issues bar Casemiro's backup, However, we have a player out on loan that could be recalled midseason as per his contract. So even if Casemiro was to get long term injured we could just recall him (Llorente). In previous seasons we have found it hard regarding continuity with important players leaving and us gettjng players we don't need. This summer we have been more efficient and less tempted to buy anyone due to our coach being happy with the players.

I am not happy we are cutting corners with Marcelo's backup by recalling a crippled mental midget but the most important position of them all that we have failed to address season upon season has finally been addressed. There is nothing more we could ask for really

Barca's came into effect in October and covered the winter and summer windows.  It's the window that immediately follows the date of the appeals ruling. I doubt the ruling gets delayed until after the winter mercato. So i think we have no opportunity to make a move until the winter of 2017.  

Really stupid that we addressed nothing.

Perez plans to appeal to TAS, if his initial appeal is denied. The process for that 2nd appeal is 4 months, and thus the winter market will be available to us, if needed.

That's the word here.

That's not how long it takes.

http://www.tas-cas.org/en/general-information/frequently-asked-questions.html

"For the appeals procedure, an award must be pronounced within three months after the transfer of the file to the Panel.

In urgent cases and upon request, the CAS may, within a very short time, order interim measures or suspend the execution of a decision appealed against.­"

It will take 3 months max. If FIFA asks them to rule faster, they may bring the case further up the schedule as well.

It's dumb..........monstrously dumb........... to think you can win an appeal when the exact same case was presented and a precedent was set. It's the height arrogance.

Cyborg wrote:anyone watched the barca vs alaves match?

How was Marcos Llorente's performance?

I did not watch it, but from what I heard- he was quite good.

Llorente smashing it again vs Depor. Bah gawd this kid can ball

Borussia Monchengladbach's sporting director Max Eberl said the club is eyeing a January loan move for Odegaard, in an interview with TV channel TV3.

aren't we banned from making transfers? i thought it was this winter, and next summer window or did i get that wrong?

We can't register any players until January 2018

Yeah... we screwed for a while. Only player we can bring back is Llorente. But the club we loaned him to has to agree.

It's sad how this entire forum knew it was a mistake to leave us this thin and now we are paying for it.

It's bad now, imagine what it's going to be like in 6 months, 9 months all the way until 12 months (well next Jan. but you know what I mean) when we can actually make and register our signings.

No, Llorente won't be brought back in January. [Link]

The contractual restrictions were also confirmed by Alavés' chairman de Trocóniz:

Marcos Llorente is on loan for the season. There is no return clause.

What is included in the contract is a clause that Real Madrid usually imposes on loans and means that the player cannot play against them.

Each team imposes its conditions, but I insist that he's on loan for the season.

Marcos Llorente's own words:

Right now my focus in on Alaves. There is no clause that allows me to return in the winter transfer market and that has been said by [Alaves sporting director] Sergio Fernandez.

Contractually, no we dont have the right to call him back but a deal can still be arranged where the player returns from loan early, just like when Marseille wanted to get rid of Lucas because he was such a scrub for them

How can a major sports organisation that is Real Madrid can be so ridiculously short sighted, hell, institutional incompetence?

Because Zidane was convinced he would do good with kroos backing up casemiro...

dont get me wrong, i think he is responsible for saying, "my team is unabalanced", and doing something about it. We all know he has enough leverage to do this.

I dont blame the institution, i blame the coach. What's more shocking is that we have 3 CFs, but 1 DM

How come in some situations the blame is all on Perez, and in this situation the blame is all on Zidane?

people feel perez loves zidane a lot that he would listen to him. also zidane saying the team is complete and will only buy if someone leaves gives people the impression. me, i tend to blame both in these kinds of matters e.g. when we sold robben and sneijder and pellegrini started crying about it after he was sacked, i blamed him as well as florentino.

i was of the thought process that, if you can't convince management to do what you want as a coach, and only cry about it after you've been fired, you never had the balls to have a stance and go for it, for fear you would be vilified if it didn't work....oddly enough even if you cater to mgt you'd still be vilified, its why u've got to have some cojones

its one of the reasons i respected mou, he knew he had a job to do, wanted the players to help him win, so no excuses. and if he didn't get those players he threw a fit or blew a gasket which the club didn't want, just ask valdano....mou's tactics and feud with players messed things up. but i liked his approach to transfers "give me the team i need to win, or we'll have fights". guys like pellegrini, even carlo and surprisingly rafa, were so into towing the company line and not being more vocal about signings, then when the wheels fall off they complain. so i usually blame both. and this case is no different

And it's not like Madrid can't afford to sign players. We have the resources, the pedigree and enough PR to make players famous and quite rich.

Let's be real... other than Mourinho who made it part of his contract that transfers were under his control (yep; it was was in writing to Valdano's chagrin)...  no other manager has such power.  Nobody had the power to demand such a thing other than Mou at the time.  No way a noob coach like Zidane could demand such a clause.

Can Zidane influence?  Sure.  But he can't really do anything else.  He's also smart enough that he keeps up the company line if it's a complete act...  he would get fired otherwise.

I wouldn't pay much attention to anything managers, presidents, agents, etc. say 99% of the time.  It's all political and agenda driven.  They lie all the time.

Do you really think Carlo wanted Di Maria sold and James bought?  Do you really think Zidane didn't want us to pay as much as it took to get Pogba or Kante?  After the fact, Carlo defended Real Madrid decisions... just like Zidane is defending our inactivity this past mercato.  They're just being good soldiers.

The funny thing is that Madrid acts as if this ruling will get overturned. They just won't accept that it practically set in stone.

my thing is, if you can't get management to buy into your vision, then don't start crying after you tow company line and get canned. nobody brings this up, but i look at it this way- a coach knows he needs a certain player on his team to win. president doesn't want to sign that player. coach doesn't make a fuss, he wants to be a good lad and keep quiet. my feeling is, he's keeping quiet because if he gets his way, he now DEFINITELY has to get the team to win titles. if he keeps quiet he can play the "i told you so" card

carlo may not have wanted james, but it didn't seem like he did anything to alter the move. pellegrini may not have wanted robben and sneijder to go (to be honest i didn't care that both left, it was economically tough to keep them after that spending spree), but he didn't seem like he did much to stop it. we only knew about all that when he got fired

if you don't make a fuss and stand for something, then don't complain when you get fired. be a good lad and embrace it, the way you did when you managed. mourinho didn't want scheva at chelsea, it happened....but he made it clear before during and after the move he didn't want him. sometimes, coaches have to be feisty. i'm not saying you should quarrel with your captain, nor fight the medical specialist, nor burn bridges with everyone in your squad

but if you really Know what it is you want, and have an idea about what it is you want your team to look like, you have to be feisty and tough. you'll be fired anyway even if you tow company line and fail.....i bet its a huge part of why florentino likes mourinho. it definitely is NOT about the football mou's teams play

if a manager wants someone put pressure on those who need to be pressured. mourinho put pressure on valdano, valdano ignored him. when higuain got that long term injury and we were going into the season with only 1 striker, everybody knew the idiot was valdano. he then had to tuck his tail between his legs and scrap last minute to get adebayor

That's what I know, the manager barely has much say in the transfer policy in Real Madrid. Mourinho had it but he had it in his contract (and had the reputation to demand such a clause too). Zidane has a voice that is heard in Madrid affairs but I seriously doubt it affects what goes on behind the Iron Curtain when it comes to transfers.