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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:23 am

33. Sport Club Corinthians Paulista = rivelino

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:31 am

34. Estudiantes = juan ramon veron

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:36 am

35. Vasco da Gama = roberto dinamite

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:48 am

36. Crvena zvezda = dragan dzajic

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 2:56 am

37. Atlético Mineiro = João Leite

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:01 am

38. Valencia CF = mario kempes

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:26 am

39. Feyenoord = willem van hanegem

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:26 am

ok, i change my mind

1. romario
2. roberto dinamite

therefore
35. Vasco da Gama = romario

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:27 am

ok, i change my mind

1. george best
2. bobby charlton

therefore
8. Manchester United = george best

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Post by sportsczy Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:27 am

Cannes = Zidane
Bordeaux = Zidane
Juventus = Platini
St Etienne = Platini
Madrid = Di Stefano
OM = Chris Waddle
Arsenal = Henry
PSG = Rai
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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:35 am

40. Ferencváros = sarosi

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:36 am

sportsczy wrote:Cannes = Zidane
Bordeaux = Zidane
Juventus = Platini
St Etienne = Platini
Madrid = Di Stefano
OM = Chris Waddle
Arsenal = Henry
PSG = Rai


thanks for the contribution, sportsczy

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:38 am

41. BV Borussia Dortmund = matthias sammer

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Post by Pip Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:43 am

guest_07 wrote:27. Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras = marcos
Probably it is Ademir da Guia, not Marcos.

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:43 am

42. AC Sparta Praha = horst siegl

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:53 am

Pip wrote:
guest_07 wrote:27. Sociedade Esportiva Palmeiras = marcos
Probably it is Ademir da Guia, not Marcos.


thanks for the contribution, pip

but marcos contribution in the palmeiras shirt include helped them won:
1. 1993 Campeonato Paulista
2. 1994 Campeonato Paulista
3. 1996 Campeonato Paulista
4. 2008 Campeonato Paulista
5. 1993 Rio – São Paulo Tournament
6. 2000 Rio – São Paulo Tournament
7. 1993 Brazilian Série A
8. 1994 Brazilian Série A
9. 1998 Brazilian Cup
10. 1998 Mercosul Cup
11. 1999 Libertadores Cup
12. 2000 Brazilian Champions Cup
13. 2003 Brazilian Série B

his individual award in palmeiras shirt:
1. 1999 Copa Libertadores: Most Valuable Player
2. 1999 Copa Libertadores: Goalkeeper of the Year
3. 1999 Copa Libertadores: Final Most Valuable Player
4. 1999 Copa Libertadores: Best Newcomer
5. 1999 Campeonato Paulista: Best Goalkeeper
6. 2000 Rio – São Paulo Tournament: Best Goalkeeper
7. 2002 IFFHS World's Best Goalkeeper: 4th Place
8. 2008 Troféu Mesa Redonda - Campeonato Brasileiro Série A: Best Goalkeeper
9. 2009 Troféu Mesa Redonda - Campeonato Brasileiro Série A: Best Goalkeeper

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 3:58 am

43. Tottenham Hotspur = dave mackay

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Post by M99 Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:12 am

Great job guest. I was going to make my own list but it's very similar to yours. Only difference that came to me was Del Piero for Juve and Meazza for Inter (for me Fachetti over Zanetti also).
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Post by titosantill Sun Feb 07, 2016 5:30 am

the thing with these all time rankings. some are a lock in...obviously di stefano, messi, for their respective clubs...but then some make me wonder, is it best player, revolutionary, longest servant, or who has won the most? and imo i don't think some clubs have a best all time player, (nothing wrong with that, they're still great clubs) and if they do, it may have been someone who we haven't seen, that those who really follow the club know about (the same way people who don't follow madrid as much, may not be familiar with di stefano)

and inter comes to mind. zanetti was definitely a loyal player, and survived through all the bullshit; saw the downs, the ups, the downs again....but i'm not sure i feel right saying he was the best ever at inter. same with maldini. now granted it feels like i'm not showing the defenders any love; and yes zanetti did NOT have too many bad games, but i don't know about best player...btw i agree about beckenbauer and bayern

obviously, most successful; they have that in the bag, revered legends; they have that too. but its almost like they are being ranked best players by default, because other fantastic players on those teams did not stay as long as they did, and we never saw guiseppe meazza; who i'd put above zanetti- its very difficult to get a stadium in your name in italy....in such cases i think those clubs may not have a best player, and we're just putting the longest servant there by default....are we going to based on that say costacurta was the second best player at milan?

i'd like to know how the fans of those clubs feel about this question i've posed, maybe i have it all wrong
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Post by S Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:26 am

Yeah, I wouldn't particularly count longevity as a big factor to determine the best player to have ever played for said club.That belongs to a separate discussion like a greatest club legend discussion or something like that.

In this regard, i would put Baggio, Zidane and Platini(who were all in the peak of their careers) above ADP among the greatest players to play for Juventus.

In the same way, Baggio can't be considered one of the greatest players to play for Milan because his time there was largely a flop.
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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:33 am

M99 wrote:Great job guest. I was going to make my own list but it's very similar to yours. Only difference that came to me was Del Piero for Juve and Meazza for Inter (for me Fachetti over Zanetti also).


you're welcome m99

ok, i take your word regarding the del piero but i still feel zanetti should be no.1 in internazionale

therefore,
5. Juventus = del piero

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:36 am

this is my criteria in judging how great that player was:
1) Higher level of play in longer time
2) Higher level of play in shorter time
3) Lesser level of play in longer time
4) Lesser level of play in shorter time

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:44 am

44. San Lorenzo de Almagro = nestor ortigoza

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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 6:46 am

45. Atlético Nacional (colombia) = victor aristizabal

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Post by McAgger Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:14 am

Is this the best player to player for your club or the greatest player to play for you club?
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Post by guest_07 Sun Feb 07, 2016 7:16 am

46. Olympiakos = predrag djordjevic

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