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Post by jibers Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:17 pm

Good GK that got overhyped by English media then suffered a massive dip in form.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:18 pm

CBarca wrote:Probably fifth best in EPL after Lloris, Courtois, Cech, and De Gea. That being said, Butland isn't really at all far behind him.

Then when you look around the world, Neuer and Buffon are both better and Bravo and Navas both have fair arguments that they may also be better

Also just because I saw arguments against it, Howard in his prime is definitely right around if not better than Hart at the moment.


Nah Howard has always been bang average mid table standard keeper i'm not having that.

He's never at any stage been as good as Hart, there's a reason he's never left Everton and Hart has been City's keeper since he was a teenager.

Look i don't think Hart is amazing or anything but at the end of the day if he was just Howard level City would have got rid a long time ago.
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Post by CBarca Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:00 pm

Bang average rofl yeah if you watch Howard this season and base his entire Everton career on that that's certainly understandable.

Everton has never had that great of a defense, I guess with Moyes it was pretty decent. The amount of times Howard has bailed Everton out is ridiculous. I'm also willing to guess you don't watch him with the US national team?

Anybody who watches him with the USMNT and has watched him even a fair amount at Everton wouldn't call him a "bang average mid table standard keeper". Has the record for most saves in a WC match and set a club record for cleansheets in a season at Everton.

Besides that ridiculous statement, I didn't say that Hart was Howard level. I agree that Hart has more talent and a higher ceiling, but Howard in his prime is certainly comparable to how Hart is playing right now. As in he's a good keeper, even great, but he's behind at least 3 or 4 keepers in the EPL alone--and Hart definitely is. He's fine for City but they could do better tbh.
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Post by M99 Wed Feb 03, 2016 2:24 am



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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:19 pm

Surely Willy Caballero will take over the starting spot from Hart this season?
Or what do you think?
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Post by Lex Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:20 pm

No lol
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Post by breva Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:25 pm

Hart would not be top 5 among Serie A keepers. Buffon, Handanovic, Perin, Donnarumma and Reina are better.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:26 pm

ExtremistEnigma wrote:
Pirloisjesus wrote:Neuer, de gea, cech, curtois, Buffonhmm

3 more to go...

Cut him some slack for not doing obnoxious, eccentric things other keepers do.



Did you just cross out Buffon?


rofl rofl Current Buffon shits all over Joe Hart.
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Post by Lex Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:33 pm

There's a reason why Reina was let go from Liverpool and it's not because he looks like a poor man's version of Vin Diesel
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Post by breva Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:39 pm

Lex wrote:There's a reason why Reina was let go from Liverpool and it's not because he looks like a poor man's version of Vin Diesel


Yes, the reason was Brendan Roger's bad judgement.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:41 pm

Tomwin Lannister wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:
Pirloisjesus wrote:Neuer, de gea, cech, curtois, Buffonhmm

3 more to go...

Cut him some slack for not doing obnoxious, eccentric things other keepers do.



Did you just cross out Buffon?


rofl rofl Current Buffon shits all over Joe Hart.


If by "just" you mean half a year ago, then yes, he did just cross out Buffon, the buffoon.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:45 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Tomwin Lannister wrote:
ExtremistEnigma wrote:

3 more to go...

Cut him some slack for not doing obnoxious, eccentric things other keepers do.



Did you just cross out Buffon?


rofl rofl Current Buffon shits all over Joe Hart.


If by "just" you mean half a year ago, then yes, he did just cross out Buffon, the buffoon.


Because Buffon of 6 months ago was clearly a fraud.


Pls Hans, stfu and 1v1 me already
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:49 pm

I won't. I'm afraid to lose.
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:50 pm

No homo
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:52 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:No homo



That's fair enough then hmm
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Post by Lucifer Thu Jul 28, 2016 3:53 pm

Who is this Pirloisjesus guy seems like very intelligent and thoughtful person not to mention extremely handsome? hmm

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Post by chemicalboy99 Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:12 pm

breva wrote:Hart would not be top 5 among Serie A keepers. Buffon, Handanovic, Perin, Donnarumma and Reina are better.


They should be perfect then for teams like Watford, Bournemouth, Burnley, Sunderland and Hull. Teams with lots of cash looking to survive.
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Post by rwo power Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:17 pm

Gladbach recently made fun of Joe Hart (the linked Twitter posts are in English, even though the article is in German):

http://www.sport1.de/fussball/bundesliga/2016/07/twitter-battle-zwischen-gladbach-und-manchester-city-um-joe-hart
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Post by Lord Awesome Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:22 pm

Kinda hard to judge this guy. He's good, no doubt, but he looks somewhat suspect at times. Maybe slightly below James (retired England GK not Colombia AM).
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:30 pm

Too mistake prone for me. No doubt he's good at what he does but not great in my book.

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