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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:13 am

Eduardo
Coentrao - Carvalho - Pepe - Silvio
Martins - Meireles - Moutinho
Nani - Postiga - Ronaldo

vs.

Romero
Zanetti - Millito - Burdisso - Zabaleta
Gago - Mascherano
Di Maria - Messi - Aguero
Higuain


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Post by theaguia Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:21 am

bosingwa has lost his place to the impressive silvio who transfered to athleetico for 8 mil this summer

there was a friendly this year arg won 2-1 with messi scoring a last minute penalty. In that match cr 7 only played 45 mins but you know friendly's are not the best guide.

in terms of player to player
gk are sort of equal

defence portugal clearly wins

midfield is a tricky one, meireles and moutinho i feel edge mash and gago based on their performance in the copa, but then again mash is such a superb player it is really tricky so i say portugal just edge over arg

in attack i think arg craps all over portugal for we dont have a striker or a decent am but in terms of wingers it think portugal might just edge it.

so i think they are very equal in my opinion
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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:48 am

Alright, edited Silvio there.
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Post by theaguia Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:51 am

and i noticed it is postiga now not almeida

and what is your opinion omarish?
are u trying to generate a messi vs cr7 debate?
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Post by guest7 Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:59 am

Not really, but I saw the discussion and I pretty much agree that even if Argentina sounds better on paper, Portugal is the better I think. They lost 1-0 to Spain and had a unfair red card against them, while Argentina lost 4-0 to Germany.

I do think if Mourinho starts training this Portugal team, they can win. And he is rumoured to do so.
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Post by theaguia Sun Jul 17, 2011 12:05 pm

not to mention the goal was offside and we were being coached by quiroz

we then went on to beat the first string spanish(the all conquering wc winning team) team 4-0 with us our main team only playing half the game, even though it was a friendly

mourinho will come after 10 years or so, right now paulo bento is doing an excellent job portugal looks excellent under him, playing like a team and more importantly cr7 has started to play to his potential, let see where he can take as

there are so many excellent coaches lined up to lead portugal: mourinho, avb, jesus and domingos we are producing some of the best coaches in the world












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Post by M99 Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:03 pm

I think Portugal edges it out for me. Under Paulo Bento they have performed really good and under Batista Argentina have, well we all know what happened. Argentina of course looks better than Portugal on paper wins but Portugal have been on better form than Argentina have and their defence is world class unlike Argentina. Argentina's attack and midfield has really bad chemistry, who knows maybe things will change.
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Post by zarola Sun Jul 17, 2011 5:33 pm

Argentina better overall, Portugal better defense.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:10 pm

argentina cant beat a top team with that defense.
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Post by Jack Daniels Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:00 pm

Sorry to say but the argie's defense really drags the team down. even on paper.
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Post by 7amood11 Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:20 pm

If they were to play tomorrow, I'd go for Portugal. Batista just hasn't found the key to success yet, and Argentina's been performing poorly.
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Post by Sushi Master Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:23 pm

I shudder to think of what Argentina's defense will become once Zanetti retires... They're alright in CBs, but have absolutely zero quality fullbacks.
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Post by Albiceleste Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:35 pm

Zabaleta Garay Otamendi Insua/Rojo
future defense for argentina

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Post by Ganso Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:51 pm

wait...argentina has a defense!?
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Post by theaguia Sun Jul 17, 2011 10:00 pm

Lionel Messi wrote:Zabaleta Garay Otamendi Insua/Rojo
future defense for argentina

insua really?
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Post by Albiceleste Mon Jul 18, 2011 12:16 am

theaguia wrote:
Lionel Messi wrote:Zabaleta Garay Otamendi Insua/Rojo
future defense for argentina

insua really?
yep, that or Zabaleta on the left and Pillud on the right

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Post by ErPupone Mon Jul 18, 2011 1:36 am

milanista99 wrote:I think Portugal edges it out for me. Under Paulo Bento they have performed really good and under Batista Argentina have, well we all know what happened. Argentina of course looks better than Portugal on paper wins but Portugal have been on better form than Argentina have and their defence is world class unlike Argentina. Argentina's attack and midfield has really bad chemistry, who knows maybe things will change.

And that has a huge effect. On paper, Argentina has the better the team probably in all departments, except for that center-back pairing in which Portugal definitely has the better of the two. But their chemistry is just really bad and they're too individual. Portugal, on the other hand, have been in much better form (of course it's difficult to compare recent Euro qualifiers to the Copa America, but the latter really gave us an idea of where Argentina stands). I would say they're about even, but if I could choose to face one of these teams in the near future, I would rather avoid Portugal.
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Post by Forza_Barca Mon Jul 18, 2011 3:22 am

argentina 2 portugal 1 been done earlier this year

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Post by M99 Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:13 am

I think Pepe should be the false 6 for Portugal as he was with Madrid in the Clasicos. That really is his best position, he is an absolute monster there. And Bruno Alves could partner Carvalho, and speaking of Bruno Alves, how is he doing at Russia?
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Post by guest7 Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:20 am

milanista99 wrote:I think Pepe should be the false 6 for Portugal as he was with Madrid in the Clasicos. That really is his best position, he is an absolute monster there. And Bruno Alves could partner Carvalho, and speaking of Bruno Alves, how is he doing at Russia?

He does sometimes. But he is a slowdown in the attack, kind of unneccesarry.
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Post by theaguia Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:21 am

he is going ok, really out of view there tbh. i rather see carrico/rolando play instead of him.

pepe as 6 was a fail for portugal, but he has improved in that position so let see what happens. However i dont think we need him there our mid is really tight might moutinho and meireles now just need ruben michael to start
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Post by theaguia Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:22 am

ErPupone wrote:
milanista99 wrote:I think Portugal edges it out for me. Under Paulo Bento they have performed really good and under Batista Argentina have, well we all know what happened. Argentina of course looks better than Portugal on paper wins but Portugal have been on better form than Argentina have and their defence is world class unlike Argentina. Argentina's attack and midfield has really bad chemistry, who knows maybe things will change.

And that has a huge effect. On paper, Argentina has the better the team probably in all departments, except for that center-back pairing in which Portugal definitely has the better of the two. But their chemistry is just really bad and they're too individual. Portugal, on the other hand, have been in much better form (of course it's difficult to compare recent Euro qualifiers to the Copa America, but the latter really gave us an idea of where Argentina stands). I would say they're about even, but if I could choose to face one of these teams in the near future, I would rather avoid Portugal.

btw we have better fullbacks as well
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Post by Zees Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:25 pm

Portugal should play with Liedson and have Rui Patrico as GK.
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Post by Zees Mon Jul 18, 2011 2:27 pm

Forza_Barca wrote:argentina 2 portugal 1 been done earlier this year
A FRIENDLIE!
besides portugal and argentina where changing players and testing new stuff
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Post by theaguia Mon Jul 18, 2011 4:25 pm

ZsG7 wrote:Portugal should play with Liedson and have Rui Patrico as GK.

i agree abt patricio, but postiga is playing quite well for portugal i dont think liedson can do better
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