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Post by rincon on Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:41 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Tbh the notion of a 'black hole image' is somewhat idiotic

Why is the image of a black hole idiotic? This is great.

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Post by Unique on Thu Apr 11, 2019 11:10 am

@rincon wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Tbh the notion of a 'black hole image' is somewhat idiotic

Why is the image of a black hole idiotic? This is great.
because the picture is not really of the black hole. the picture is of the red and orange glow.
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Post by rincon on Thu Apr 11, 2019 12:38 pm

@Unique wrote:
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@Hapless_Hans wrote:Tbh the notion of a 'black hole image' is somewhat idiotic

Why is the image of a black hole idiotic? This is great.
because the picture is not really of the black hole. the picture is of the red and orange glow.

That is exactly an image of a black hole. We can model it, what else were you expecting. And now we can model it better.
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Post by CBarca on Fri Apr 12, 2019 8:54 pm

Being pedantic about the term "black hole image" is somewhat idiotic
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Post by El Gunner on Fri Apr 12, 2019 10:30 pm

Yea but modelling it is just fake, no?
It really isn't it.
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Post by rincon on Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:16 pm

No, that image is not the model. Scientists had models predicting what it would look like. Now we have an actual image, data, to compare with the models.

It is a truly fantastic achievement. Dismissing it is what is somewhat idiotic. It is a triumph of the group of scientists that did it, and of science as a whole.


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Post by rincon on Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:20 pm

Arquitescu wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Tbh the notion of a 'black hole image' is somewhat idiotic


Glad someone pointed this out.

Clearly this image is catered towards pop science fans as whilst one can learn from the image itself it just does not make sense from a cosmological point of view.

Please, why doesnt it make sense from a cosmological point of view?
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Post by Myesyats on Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:02 am

"Black holes are so small, dark and distant that observing them directly requires a telescope with a resolution equivalent to being able to see a bagel on the moon. This was once thought to be an insurmountable challenge."

this is truly revolutionary
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Apr 13, 2019 9:42 am

@rincon wrote:No, that image is not the model. Scientists had models predicting what it would look like. Now we have an actual image, data, to compare with the models.

It is a truly fantastic achievement. Dismissing it is what is somewhat idiotic. It is a triumph of the group of scientists that did it, and of science as a whole.


What did you think a black hole would 'look' like?
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Post by El Gunner on Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:04 am

@Myesyats wrote:"Black holes are so small, dark and distant that observing them directly requires a telescope with a resolution equivalent to being able to see a bagel on the moon. This was once thought to be an insurmountable challenge."

this is truly revolutionary


Okay, so what now?

What do we do with this "image" that we found of this black hole?
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Post by Myesyats on Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:34 am

It won't put food on your table but nevertheless it's a big step in terms of space exploration.

Did you ask "what do we do with this" after the moon landing? I don't know what's your deal. I'm not saying this is as big as the moon landing BTW, before you jump on that and start word-picking.
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Post by Kaladin on Sat Apr 13, 2019 1:38 pm

https://i.imgur.com/FQtYW90.jpg
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Post by rincon on Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:03 pm

sexist trolls know no limits
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Post by M99 on Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:13 pm

https://twitter.com/thisgreyspirit/status/1116518544961830918
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Post by Unique on Sat Apr 13, 2019 2:45 pm

you cant tell me hes not after having a poke around in katies black hole :coffee:
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Post by CBarca on Wed Apr 17, 2019 2:00 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@rincon wrote:No, that image is not the model. Scientists had models predicting what it would look like. Now we have an actual image, data, to compare with the models.

It is a truly fantastic achievement. Dismissing it is what is somewhat idiotic. It is a triumph of the group of scientists that did it, and of science as a whole.

What did you think a black hole would 'look' like?


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Post by Nishankly on Sat May 16, 2020 5:00 pm

Got this bad boy after two months of waiting, its now up gone on my wall. Ironically the poster beside it is the "Argonath" and we were talking about LOTR in this thread Laughing

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Post by Nishankly on Wed May 27, 2020 10:56 am

https://www.space.com/how-to-watch-spacex-nasa-demo-2-astronaut-launch-webcasts.html
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Post by Nishankly on Thu May 28, 2020 3:18 am

Safety/Saving money first! Delayed till 30th!
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Post by Babun on Sat May 30, 2020 8:32 pm

Just saw it, great!
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Post by Nishankly on Sat May 30, 2020 8:36 pm

Fucking beautiful
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Post by Babun on Sat May 30, 2020 8:42 pm

@Nishankly wrote:Fucking beautiful

Nasa helped out with their safety know-how. Flights will be commercial which means more optimisation and cost reduction. The base is reusable. Finally, humanity is heading into the right direction :bow: :bow: :bow:
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Post by Nishankly on Sat May 30, 2020 8:46 pm

I am just hoping other countries can start being able to afford Space as much as NASA or ESA. Its unfortunate only these 2 are leading everything with so many countries waiting to get on the action, well once they settle their internal issues.

India did the same, our Mars satellite was cheaper than the movie Gravity Proud
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Post by Babun on Sat May 30, 2020 9:04 pm

@Nishankly wrote:I am just hoping other countries can start being able to afford Space as much as NASA or ESA. Its unfortunate only these 2 are leading everything with so many countries waiting to get on the action, well once they settle their internal issues.

India did the same, our Mars satellite was cheaper than the movie Gravity Proud

I've got a theory: no matter how amazing life on earth is, it will go down the drain as soon as the sun burns out or another dino like catstrophy happens. The only way to survive is for the life to spread onto other planets/solar systems before the due date. To leave earth, one needs an intelligent, capable life form which is bound to the nature by its basic needs for nutrients = humans. Humans are capable of spreading life into the space out of basic necessities like food or water. We've got 8 billion people, 8 billion brains. Theoretically, humanity should be at its max capacity to leave earth. Instead, we're discussing about what to wear or which Iphone to buy. The outer space is there to explore.
I'm all for intact space programs on all continents. More competition means faster/better development into that direction.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat May 30, 2020 9:12 pm

@Nishankly wrote:I am just hoping other countries can start being able to afford Space as much as NASA or ESA. Its unfortunate only these 2 are leading everything with so many countries waiting to get on the action, well once they settle their internal issues.

India did the same, our Mars satellite was cheaper than the movie Gravity Proud

Yes, that was a tremendous achievement for India, but far from being the only one. So far, you have carried out 97 spacecraft missions, 69 launch missions and planned several missions including the Aditya, Gaganyaan and MOM 2. And you would have many, many more if you had enough funding.

I love the work that NASA, SpaceX and ESA are doing, but I wish other countries had a similar financial muscle to carry out their programs as well. Cause there are brilliant people all over the world, people who could benefit humanity in all sort of ways, but they lack the financial means to launch their own missions.

The world seems more interested in spending billions of dollars on weapons and wars unfortunately.
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Post by El Gunner on Sat May 30, 2020 9:28 pm

@Babun wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:I am just hoping other countries can start being able to afford Space as much as NASA or ESA. Its unfortunate only these 2 are leading everything with so many countries waiting to get on the action, well once they settle their internal issues.

India did the same, our Mars satellite was cheaper than the movie Gravity Proud

I've got a theory: no matter how amazing life on earth is, it will go down the drain as soon as the sun burns out or another dino like catstrophy happens. The only way to survive is for the life to spread onto other planets/solar systems before the due date. To leave earth, one needs an intelligent, capable life form which is bound to the nature by its basic needs for nutrients = humans. Humans are capable of spreading life into the space out of basic necessities like food or water. We've got 8 billion people, 8 billion brains. Theoretically, humanity should be at its max capacity to leave earth. Instead, we're discussing about what to wear or which Iphone to buy. The outer space is there to explore.
I'm all for intact space programs on all continents. More competition means faster/better development into that direction.
I've got a better more realistic theory.
We're the multidimensional alien substrate and we're living in a simulation and there are an infinite number of parallel universes out there regardless of time and space, and the sun blowing/burning out.

We (consciousness) will never end. Energy doesn't end.
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