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Post by iftikhar Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:11 pm

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jamie-carragher-defenders-suffered-liverpool-9495161


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Post by Curtinho Mon Jun 22, 2015 5:46 pm

http://moresport.com/football/liverpool/joe-gomez-why-liverpool-have-committed-daylight-robbery?

Some promising praise for the lad.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Jun 22, 2015 6:57 pm

Hard to get excited over the lad in the light of our recent young center-back experiences. Wilson, Kelly, Wisdom, Coates, Ilori... Here's hoping he's the one to turn the page, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by BusterLfc Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:08 pm

Has a Kelly written all over him tbh.
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Post by Don't call me James Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:17 pm

Honestly, I would love nothing more to give both Ilori and Gomez a chance right away. Sakho is the undisputed starter. Everyone else should be given a fair chance.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:20 pm

Yeeeeeah, let's just say I rather have Rodgers as our manager than you.
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Post by Don't call me James Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:22 pm

It's only because you don't us to win the PL. :coffee: You know I would guarantee trophies every season.

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Post by BusterLfc Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:24 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:Honestly, I would love nothing more to give both Ilori and Gomez a chance right away. Sakho is the undisputed starter. Everyone else should be given a fair chance.

Suuure, let's throw in Art Morte and iftikhar while we're at it.
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Post by Don't call me James Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:24 pm

You people just mad I don't rate that bald thug. :coffee:

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And I'm not talking about Skrtel, where ya at Morty? Laughing
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Post by Art Morte Mon Jun 22, 2015 9:29 pm

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Post by iftikhar Tue Jun 23, 2015 6:32 am

I think Rodgers is considering both Wisdom & Gomez primarily as RB. I don't see any other reason why he should stack-up THREE young CB while retaining Toure. At this point, all I care is Wisdom, Ilori & Gomez combined gets more time than Lovren & Toure combined.

@BusterLfc wrote:Suuure, let's throw in Art Morte and iftikhar while we're at it.
Imagine our pains if,

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Post by Red Alert Tue Jun 23, 2015 12:17 pm

We need a new left back.

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Post by Nishankly Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:19 pm

Sepp has always talked about LB not needing any quality, He could fit in there. hmm

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Post by Don't call me James Tue Jun 23, 2015 8:40 pm

@Red Alert wrote:We need a new left back.



I agree. Unless Moreno turns into a decent defender overnight, we really need a new LB as well. But not a worry this window for me.

I like Alex Sandro :coffee:
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Post by Helmer Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:53 pm

I will wait. Young defenders at LFC is always a tricky one !

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Post by iftikhar Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:44 pm

There's rumor that he will be loaned-out to newly promoted Bournemouth, do you guys support this?
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Post by Helmer Wed Jun 24, 2015 4:55 pm

we keep on loaning defenders and they come back just to be sold back ! But I think with already older players around the first team, he should go on loan, to a EPL club will be great !

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Post by iftikhar Sat Jul 25, 2015 10:56 am

So apparently he wont be loaned-out. If he is considered as the back-up LB (and Enrique is indeed shipped-out), that's a good choice. He will get enough games at that slot.
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Post by donttreadonred Sun Jul 26, 2015 11:10 pm

@iftikhar wrote:I think Rodgers is considering both Wisdom & Gomez primarily as RB. I don't see any other reason why he should stack-up THREE young CB while retaining Toure. At this point, all I care is Wisdom, Ilori & Gomez combined gets more time than Lovren & Toure combined.

The Full-back situation will likely be something a long the lines of this:
RB: Clyne, Wisdom, Gomez,
LB: Moreno, Gomez, Enrique (if he's still here)

From the pre-season performances, it seems like Gomez is an incredibly versatile young defender, which may be somewhat detrimental to his individual development but beneficial to LFC's current situation. Unless a dedicated LB is bought in the remainder of the window, I fully expect him to be second-choice at LB for the start of the season. Given Wisdom's experience (and premier league loan last season) I would expect him to be second-choice at RB regardless.

This is all assuming Flanagan fails to make a miraculous recovery. There have been rumors that his injuries were far more serious than originally thought, to the extent that they may be career-threatening or at least impact his ability to perform at the level needed for LFC's first-team.

As for the Center-Backs, I would certainly hope that the pre-season performances would put to bed any lingering inclinations that Lovren is in the same class as Sakho. Since Skrtel is unlikely to be dropped anytime soon (and he's certainly looked like our second-best CB on tour), Sakho and Skrtel will most likely be the starting pairing for hte beginning of the season. However, I would love to see Ilori given a shot early in the cups/Europe and eventually the league, dependent on his cup performances.

Given that we have a plethora of options at CB, my guess would be that Toure was retained more for his locker-room presence and leadership than his contributions on-pitch. I would expect him to be used sparingly and in conjunction with our younger CBs (Ilori, Wisdom, Gomez, etc.)
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Post by iftikhar Mon Jul 27, 2015 6:45 am

The Full-back situation will likely be something a long the lines of this:
RB: Clyne, Wisdom, Gomez,
LB: Moreno, Gomez, Enrique (if he's still here)
I guess the only reason Enrique is still around and may stick around till December, is the uncertainty over Flanagan. Enrique have played very few games (525 mins) even last season and Wisdom and Joe would be the back-ups for R&LWB.

As for CB, I would like to see Ilori chosen as the 3rd-CB behind Skrtel and Sakho.
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Post by Art Morte Mon Jul 27, 2015 8:06 am

If Moreno hasn't improved his 2015 form quite a lot, I rate Enrique as our best left-back. I'm really not comfortable letting Enrique leave if our other LB back-ups are Flanagan and Gomez.
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Post by Don't call me James Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:15 pm

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-injury-shock-joe-10261741

Done for the season Sad

Terrible terrible terrible. Really has a bright future this kid. Get well soon.
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Post by Art Morte Wed Oct 14, 2015 7:31 pm

Damn Neutral

Btw, I think we should include 'Gomez' in the thread title, I keep confusing this and the Allen thread.
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Post by Helmer Wed Oct 14, 2015 9:18 pm

Liverpool and young defenders Laughing

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Post by iftikhar Thu Oct 15, 2015 6:08 am

@Art Morte wrote:Damn Neutral

Btw, I think we should include 'Gomez' in the thread title, I keep confusing this and the Allen thread.
For Allen, the title would be "The Average Joe" Wink

On topic Sad Get well soon lad; you and the Beast would be such a beauty :wub:
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