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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 08, 2014 3:58 pm

https://i.imgur.com/59hczG6.png

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As always please let me know if you have any additions I may have missed.
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Post by Pip Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:03 pm

Why do you count penalties won (and then converted) as assists? Transfermarkt has that issue where if you win a penalty and then score it, you get a goal and assist.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:10 pm

Basically because getting to the nitty gritty of how each assist was won is too time consuming and no other website provides data for the same range of competitions. Just know that these are transfermarkt assists and take them with a grain of salt.
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Post by LeVersacci Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:17 pm

But CR's goals aren't pure. His hattricks aren't tier 1 & his pens are all gifts, plus his assist are all wide assist.

Shouldn't be #1 imo hmm
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:19 pm

Best creator and scorer :bow: Most complete player eva :bow:

#beatdatJiopsi
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Post by MaraVilla Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:19 pm

stay safe harmonica
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Post by McAgger Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:32 pm

DiNatale doe :bow:
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Post by terrance511 Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:10 pm

good lord, miss this table, thanks op :bow:
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Post by Harmonica Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:26 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:https://i.imgur.com/59hczG6.png

To be updated on or about the 1st Tuesday of each month.

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Ronaldo has only 9 assists, you've counted assists to own penalties.
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Post by RealGunner Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:36 pm

Great work

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Post by El Gunner Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:43 pm

Candreva mah nig' :bow:
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:34 pm

Self proclaimed best player of BPL not there Sad stay safe gilbert

Denis Cherychev doe more effective than Alexis Sanchez Proud
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Post by Curtinho Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:43 pm

Harmonica wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:https://i.imgur.com/59hczG6.png

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Ronaldo has only 9 assists, you've counted assists to own penalties.


Why count assists on penalties at all then? Penalties won should just be a different stat.
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Post by zigra Mon Dec 08, 2014 7:58 pm

If you want to stretch it a bit you could say that winning penalties IS an achievement and of course you create a great opportunity for someone to score.
But of course it's complete bs if the same player can get an assist AND a goal for one goal. I mean is there anyone but transfermarkt counting like that?

Oh and I guess many people just want the whole stuff to stay as simple as possible. Just have a look at many of the discussions on here.. people don't want even nigh complex stuff.. goal+assist = bestest player on earth. Or just goals.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:20 pm

Would you guys rather I use whoscored (opta)  data with more accurate assist counts (but it won't include regional cups, super cups, el, and cwc) or keep as is and adjust for faulty transfermarkt data where we catch it?


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Post by futbol Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:28 pm

Whoscored is probably better. Who cares about Cups that include lower division opponents anyway?

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Post by zigra Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:37 pm

I prefer opta aswell but IMO including cups via transfermarkt.
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Post by Lord Awesome Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:01 pm

Hmm, guess Defenders/GK's must be useless then?

Come on.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:08 pm

Ok so here it is using opta data:

https://i.imgur.com/9Y7aeba.png

Diego Costa' fall Laughing


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Post by Curtinho Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:09 pm

How do you organize the data that way? Manually?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:10 pm

What do you mean organize? The data is entered manually from the website and then sorted using excel's tools
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Post by Curtinho Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:17 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:What do you mean organize? The data is entered manually from the website and then sorted using excel's tools


Ah ok thats what I was wondering. If they organised the data that way somewhere or if you were collecting it from their site and organizing it yourself. Seems like a lot of work. How do you know you didn't miss anyone?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:18 pm

I don't but there's a list of 20+ names in the ones that did not make the top 30. Chances are if I miss anyone that was not there someone here will tell me.
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Post by rwo power Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:43 pm

Lord Awesome wrote:Hmm, guess Defenders/GK's must be useless then?
Come on.
That's why I see to the Top Defense stats :coffee:
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Post by chad4401 Tue Dec 09, 2014 9:13 am

benzema is either top 5 or 4? works for me Laughing
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