Re: Champions League 2014/15 | Group B

by RED Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:12 pm

Rodgers had a nightmare today. Paid Basel far too much respect and went defensive. Had Coutinho and Lallana starting on the bench. Why? Boggles the mind.

'Pool players were thoroughly outplayed in the first half. Credit to Basel. They were full of energy, pressed LFc all over the pitch and kept possession well. It was far too easy for them.

2nd half Lambert goes off. rofl

debateable red card for Markovic. Basel were knackered. Gerrard scored a great FK and did his trademark starfish dive too.

Liverpool huffed and puffed, but in the end wasn't enough. You can't just decide to put the effort in the dying minutes.

All that effort from last season, waiting for 5 years to qualify for the CL, to then just luckily beat some random unheard of team in the group stages :coffee:

Anfield was like a morgue today too. What happened to the mythical 'famous' Anfield nights? Outsung by the Basel fans all night. Embarassed

Thursday nights now to eastern european stadiums. Thumbs up

More games.

Morale and energy should be down for the team come Sunday. We should take advantage.

by Valkyrja Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:17 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:I hope Basel doesnt recover well enough before we face them so that we can increase the GD to finish first in the group, having Studge back for that fixture will be necessary to smack them hard.

Feel sorry for Gerrard. He doesn't deserve to play with such scrubs silent

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:19 pm

Freeza wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Freeza wrote:

Pretty sure you HAVE to call a red card offense no matter what

why wouldn't you give the goal as advantage (because what clearer advantage than a goal lol), and then give the red card posthumously?
It's done with yellow card offenses all the time.

Pretty sure you can't give a red after an advantage. That's atleast what I've been told at practice.

The referee may play advantage whenever an infringement or offence occurs.
The referee should consider the following circumstances in deciding whether to
apply the advantage or stop play:
• the severity of the offence: if the infringement warrants an expulsion, the
referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a subsequent
opportunity to score a goal

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/36/01/11/27_06_2014_new--lawsofthegameweben_neutral.pdf

laws of the game 14/15 p.72

by Kuru Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:19 pm

mr-r34 wrote:
Kuru wrote:Called it. Liverpool just couldn't bring their A game. That's on Rodgers, you can't play like shit, forfeit a game against an opponent before it even begins by playing with you B side, coming up with excuses every time.

Tbh Liverpool were lucky with the draw.

BTW: a Loss woud've saw them drop to fourth place, or where did they have a goal advantage over ludo at any case?

The line up we had vs madrid bar sterling and hendo was better than tonight, so does that mean we forfeited the game today as well?

Like FFS too much idiots keep thinking because players with a big name or reputation missed out that they didnt deserve to be dropped.

The result might've been better, but that's because Madrid didn't give a damn about playing that B team. I don't believe Rodgers played with that team in any other important game this season, and if it weren't for recent injuries, he wouldn't even come close to fielding that lineup.

I would've agreed if Liverpool outplayed Madrid that game tactically because of that linup, but it didn't.

And it wasn't like they wanted to win, they just played to not to loose by a big margin, which was my greatest gripe on that game.

Anyway, I don't want to continue this convo as it's not the best time. I just wish next time Liverpool are in the UCL they either bring a new mentality to their game, or a new coach. Either way, I like Liverpool, and I would hate to see them go out in such a way.

by Freeza Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:25 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Freeza wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

why wouldn't you give the goal as advantage (because what clearer advantage than a goal lol), and then give the red card posthumously?
It's done with yellow card offenses all the time.

Pretty sure you can't give a red after an advantage. That's atleast what I've been told at practice.

The referee may play advantage whenever an infringement or offence occurs.
The referee should consider the following circumstances in deciding whether to
apply the advantage or stop play:
• the severity of the offence: if the infringement warrants an expulsion, the
referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a subsequent
opportunity to score a goal
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/36/01/11/27_06_2014_new--lawsofthegameweben_neutral.pdf

laws of the game 14/15 p.72

So it's pretty much the refs own choice whether or not to enforce it. Never seen a ref show a player a straight red after being given an advantage goal though. Might have happened, can't remember if I've seen it.

by Freeza Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:26 pm

Don't call me James wrote:Zeal, how many times have Madrid beaten Liverpool?

Spoiler:

come back to Madrid pls Proud

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:31 pm

So i take it that this is final confirmation that the transfer strategy of "Replace best player in the league with a bunch of lads whose lifetime achievement is finishing 8th" did not succeed?

Shocked, I am.

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:36 pm

Freeza wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Freeza wrote:

Pretty sure you can't give a red after an advantage. That's atleast what I've been told at practice.

The referee may play advantage whenever an infringement or offence occurs.
The referee should consider the following circumstances in deciding whether to
apply the advantage or stop play:
• the severity of the offence: if the infringement warrants an expulsion, the
referee must stop play and send off the player unless there is a subsequent
opportunity to score a goal
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/36/01/11/27_06_2014_new--lawsofthegameweben_neutral.pdf

laws of the game 14/15 p.72

So it's pretty much the refs own choice whether or not to enforce it. Never seen a ref show a player a straight red after being given an advantage goal though. Might have happened, can't remember if I've seen it.

Advantage is always the ref's discretion. But discounting a goal to give a penalty for me is a failure on the refs part by default. If that isn#t advantage, nothing is.

As for the red card, it's a red card offense, so why couldn't he give it after the goal?

by B-Mac Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:39 pm

i was told Liverpool didn't need star players, that Rodgers system was "the star" Proud

by izzy Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:40 pm

Nice to know Hans is watching our games. Proud

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:41 pm

who is "our"?
I watched the simulcast hmm

by Art Morte Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:42 pm

BarrileteCosmico wrote:So i take it that this is final confirmation that the transfer strategy of "Replace best player in the league with a bunch of lads whose lifetime achievement is finishing 8th" did not succeed?

Shocked, I am.

Oi! Balotelli is a Serie A, Champions League and Premier League champion!

And Rickie Lambert an English League One and Championship Golden Boot winner!

And Lovren's won the French Cup!

Rodgers's got our transfers sorted, aye.

by BarrileteCosmico Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:42 pm

Tbf when I first used that description Balotelli was not around

by izzy Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:44 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:who is "our"?
I watched the simulcast

Don't lie.

Just like Dani, I know you have a Ronaldo shirt. Proud

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:44 pm

Balotelli wasn't around today either. Whatever you think of him, I'd still say he's the most likely to score for them in a big game.
Lambert sure isn't.

But Rodgers is obviously not man enough to stand behind the player he bought a few weeks ago, and is starting to throw Balotelli under the bus.

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:45 pm

izzy wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:who is "our"?
I watched the simulcast

Don't lie.

Just like Dani, I know you have a Ronaldo shirt.

not funny, my friend. not funny

by Cruijf Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:45 pm

If any one game could possibly showcase the complete incompetence of a coach, this was it. Feel sorry for Liverpool fans, Rogers lost you this game.

by izzy Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:48 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:not funny, my friend. not funny

Come on Hans.....

None of the other BundesHeads are online, post a pic of you in your shirt. Proud

by Hapless_Hans Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:59 pm

izzy wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:not funny, my friend. not funny

Come on Hans.....

None of the other BundesHeads are online, post a pic of you in your shirt.

ok

Spoiler:

by mr-r34 Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:06 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:Balotelli wasn't around today either. Whatever you think of him, I'd still say he's the most likely to score for them in a big game.
Lambert sure isn't.

But Rodgers is obviously not man enough to stand behind the player he bought a few weeks ago, and is starting to throw Balotelli under the bus.

What *bleep* Drugs are you on mate.

Rodgers stuck with Balo for pretty much the whole season, gave him the longest his given a shit player to take his chance. We all know he would of started today if he was fit.

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