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Post by rincon Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:00 pm

a very different call up since qualification is sealed.

Goalkeepers: Gianluigi Donnarumma (Milan), Pierluigi Gollini (Atalanta), Alex Meret (Napoli), Salvatore Sirigu (Torino)

Defenders: Francesco Acerbi (Lazio), Cristiano Biraghi (Inter), Leonardo Bonucci (Juventus), Andrea Cistana (Brescia), Giovanni Di Lorenzo (Napoli), Emerson Palmieri (Chelsea), Alessandro Florenzi (Roma), Armando Izzo (Torino), Gianluca Mancini (Roma), Alessio Romagnoli (Milan), Leonardo Spinazzola (Roma)

Midfielders: Nicolò Barella (Inter), Gaetano Castrovilli (Fiorentina), Jorginho (Chelsea), Rolando Mandragora (Udinese), Marco Verratti (Paris Saint-Germain), Nicolò Zaniolo (Roma)

Forwards: Andrea Belotti (Torino), Domenico Berardi (Sassuolo), Federico Bernardeschi (Juventus), Federico Chiesa (Fiorentina), Stephan El Shaarawy (Shanghai Shenhua), Ciro Immobile (Lazio), Lorenzo Insigne (Napoli), Riccardo Orsolini (Bologna)

bolded some new or recently returning names

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Post by rincon Tue Nov 19, 2019 9:28 am

Mancini confirmed his team is pretty set now except 3 positions or so, injuries permitting.

GK: Donnarumma, Sirigu, Meret
FB: Emerson, Spinazzola, Florenzi, De Sciglio
CB: Chiellini, Bonucci, Acerbi, Romagnoli
CM: Jorginho, Verratti, Barella, Sensi, Pellegrini, Tonali
FW: Insigne, Chiesa, Bernardeschi, Zaniolo
CF: Belotti, Immobile

The main challengers for those 3 not bolded are Cragno, Mancini, Izzo, Di Lorenzo, Biraghi.

The rest tried should be either back to the youth squads (Castrovilli, Kean, Orsolini, etc.) or excluded for now (El Shaarawy, Balotelli, Lasagna, etc.)
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:06 pm

El Shaarawy should most definitely be selected as he is the most skilled as a whole within the forwards and tends to perform relatively well for Azzurri. Balotelli on the other hand is not the same and continues to have the drama around him, "resurgences" and is just finished as a whole, despite his past for Italia.

Would pick Mancini & Di Lorenzo as well given they offer a considerable amount respectively, as well.

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Post by rincon Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:36 pm

El Shaarawy chose to semi-retire in his 20s instead of raising his level. No chance he gets in ahead of the the existing 4. If no injury comes to them, it would be min boggling to leave out Insigne, Chiesa, Bernardeschi and Zaniolo.

Difficult to pick Mancini over Romganoli but not out of the question. Di Lorenzo or De Sciglio doesn't matter too much, both are fine.
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:13 pm

I agree on El Shaarawy and it was a thoroughly disappointing move from him in what already was a poorly guided footballer. Thankfully he is still 27 and most Europeans who go to China usually choose to go back since its so uninspiring to play there so I hope that is the case.

De Sciglio is a player weak in his mentality but usually performs well for Azzurri so I would include him added with his ambidextrous option.
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Post by rincon Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:05 pm

The azzurrrini won again.

A renovation of the squad and change of coach after the Euros. Di Biagio was replaced with Nicolato. They have yet to play a top opponent since they are in the qualifiers, but the results are great. In 6 matches the U21 haven't even conceded a goal.

4-0 Moldova
5-0 Luxembourg
0-0 Ireland
1-0 Armenia
3-0 Iceland
6-0 Armenia

A lot of the old squad graduated (at least temporarily) even if they are still like Donnarumma, Tonali and Zaniolo. Where the senior team is looking for a CF, Nicolate has too many. In last nights he played with 3 CF basically, and subbed in another from the bench.

Versions of this team reached the final of the Euro U19 last year, and the semis of the WC U20 this year, now they are moving on the Euro U21 next year.

Last match:
Cutrone - Pinamonti - Kean
Locatelli - Carraro - Zanellato
Sala - Ranieri - Del Prato - Adjapong
Carnescchi

Notable absences are Luca Pellgrini (LB), Bastoni (CB), Sottil (FW), Esposito (CF) and Favilli (CF). Scamacca (CF) came in and scored.

Hope some of the 6 CFs in this team can make the jump. Luca and Adjapong should be in the senior team in due time considering our weak fullbacks they have it easiest. Many of them already playing at top level which is great to see.
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Post by rincon Mon May 31, 2021 8:29 am

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Post by Warrior Mon May 31, 2021 2:05 pm

Moise Kean not there Sad instead Bernardeschi is on the list rofl

Toloi is italian now, nice
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Post by Robespierre Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:19 pm

the official 26
out mancini, pessina and politaano

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Post by Luca Tue Jun 01, 2021 11:39 pm

Pretty straightforward selections. I like the Raspadori inclusion

Attack is the obvious weak spot but I like the team overall

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Post by McLewis Wed Jun 02, 2021 1:42 am

Unfortunate for Mancini. Good call on Toloi though, who has been great this season.

That midfield is excellent.
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Post by rincon Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:46 am

Surprised not to see Pessina, risky to take Sensi instead of him. An injury is always around the corner.

Very glad to see Raspadori there. Its probably too early for him but in terms of style he is probably the best fit for Mancini than the rest of the strikers. Politano must feel bad seeing Bernardeschi there instead of him.
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Post by rincon Wed Jun 02, 2021 6:50 am

@McLewis wrote:
That midfield is excellent.

Would have loved to see Zaniolo in the mix. Hope he can recover for the world cup
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Post by Robespierre Wed Jun 02, 2021 11:07 pm

Honestly Sensi ( clearly Mancini loves him, because he's incredibly injury prone and poor season even in a Inter that dominated league ) for Pessina
and Bernardeschi for Politano ( opposite seasons played by them)
are 2 very weird choices.

yes, it is not as when we didn't call up Baggio or other top players... I' ve seen worse .. but they weren't fair for me
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Post by rincon Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:15 am

Sensi injured and misses the tournament. Pessina who stayed with the team will now be officially included. The outcome that made sense.
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Post by rincon Thu Jun 10, 2021 2:41 pm

Pellegrini injured and out of the euros, second midfielder out. Really looked forward to seeing him there.

Castrovilli takes his place.
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Post by Kaladin Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:17 pm

For the first time since 2012, Italy has a formidable frontline in Immobile, Insigne, Berardi, Chiesa and Belotti

Back then there was Balotelli, Cassano, Di Natale and Giovinco(?) I think

I'd say they're strong contendors to win it but i've seen that CB partnership get ruined on so many occasions.
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Post by Robespierre Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:30 pm

Honestly I think the real strenght is the midfield, Barella Verratti Jorginho (and Locatelli who improves day after day)
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Post by rincon Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:59 pm

Insigne, Barella, Jorginho, Verratti form the core of Mancini's plan. Berardi and Locatelli joining recently.

We need Verratti to get fit asap especially with Sensi, Pellegrini and Zaniolo injured.
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Post by Lord Awesome Fri Jun 11, 2021 3:52 am

Italy is so complete rn. The best gen after the one that won their last WC easily
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Post by Hapless_Hans Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:02 pm

so apparently that was the first time in history Italy scored 3 goals in 90 minutes of a Euro game

rofl rofl
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Post by rincon Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:20 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:so apparently that was the first time in history Italy scored 3 goals in 90 minutes of a Euro game

rofl rofl

Isn't it a beautiful stat Proud

Also it's the longest unbeaten streak we've had since Pozzo in the pre-war, but that is made easier by the fact the euros got postponed so only qualifiers, nations league, and friendlies have been played. 27 games unbeaten or something like that.

Also 9 matches won in a row without conceding a goal.
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Post by Robespierre Mon Jun 14, 2021 1:22 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:so apparently that was the first time in history Italy scored 3 goals in 90 minutes of a Euro game

rofl rofl


Curious, but not totally surprised

Italy gives his best in WC more than Euro , and Italy gamestyle has always been based on defence. Italy under Mancini plays a football that is not negative, and it's quite new as thing

Still the best Italy topscorer ever is Gigi Riva, 35 goals. You ' ll notice as it's a low number of goals compared with other NTs .. Giroud is battling for 1st place in France and he's scored 46 atm..

Moreover our tradition in this cup is very inferior compared to WC

Just 1 victory (as Greece, Czech, Denmark etc) in 1968, 2 finals lost  (2000,2012) .. stop... and some  tournaments where Italy didn't even get qualified

Yes, Euro had also a reduced format for years, but it's relevant to underline how Italy 84 ( after it had won WC )  or Italy 92 ( very strong NT ) didn't even get qualified

Germany has a comparable story with Italy but yet how many tournaments have you missed it?

but for example I considered more relevant the fact that England  had never won the opening match at Euro before yesterday, that was incredible for me
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Post by rincon Mon Jul 12, 2021 9:11 am

@Robespierre wrote:Good morning Campioni d' Europa

Good morning, it is a beautiful one cheers
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