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Post by Eivindo Fri 13 Jun - 14:33

Sadly, Fifa wants an african team to get out of the group stages so bad that they have to ruin games with corrupt refs. Brazil must also go far ofc, everybody wants to see "samba" with Neymar elbowing people and only getting a yellow

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Post by M99 Fri 13 Jun - 14:42

Eivindo wrote:CONSPIRACY
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Post by VendettaRed07 Fri 13 Jun - 14:55

First goal is tight enough for me to disagree but at least understanding of why it was called off.

The second one I have zero clue how that goal isn't allowed. What was wrong with it? There is no WAY that is offsides
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri 13 Jun - 19:30

3 games, 5 catastrophic calls so far.

M99 and RedOranje, I accept your apologies.
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Post by Onyx Fri 13 Jun - 23:37

Hopefully the next thing they introduce after goal line technology and that spray thing is instant replay. Would solve most problems.

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Post by rwo power Sat 14 Jun - 6:21

As it is obvious that it is not only Brazil who are gifted stuff by the referees, but the referees in general seem to be abysmal, I merged the Brazil and Cameroon ref gift threads into this one where you can vent about all the refs in Brazil 2014.
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Post by Helmer Sat 14 Jun - 8:14

got an English link for this one Smile
http://www.dw.de/first-world-cup-assignment-for-german-referee-felix-brych/a-17677533

For Felix Brych, there is one such moment that he will never escape. On October 18, 2013, he awarded Stefan Kießling a goal in Leverkusen's Bundesliga game against Hoffenheim, even though the ball never crossed the line. Instead, it ended up in the back of the net having gone through a hole in the side netting.
The ghost goal dominated headlines and column inches for weeks afterwards, and Brych learned his lesson. "It was a moment of life experience," said the referee a few days before setting off for the World Cup.
not entirely his fault but let's see how he does tonight...he is a very strict referee in BL imo

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Post by VivaStPauli Sat 14 Jun - 11:17

Brych is decent enough, but much too strict for my liking, I do think he's fair and rather competent overall.
Really like Stark, though, he's a great ref.
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Post by BusterLfc Sat 14 Jun - 17:11

Costa Rica second goal was offside

There hasn't been a single WC day so far without refs' mistakes
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Post by Art Morte Sat 14 Jun - 17:20

How Costa Rica didn't get a penalty for that comedical handball is beyond me.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun 29 Jun - 14:22

Has anyone been booked for diving yet? I feel like Robben could have been kicked out of tonight's game for it. It's ridiculous the refs have been so hesitant to show yellows for it.
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Post by sportsczy Sun 29 Jun - 14:23

Robben deserve a pk in the first half. He dove for the last minute call... but there was contact. He just made a meal out of it.

Not the scandal of the century imo.
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Post by CBarca Sun 29 Jun - 14:24

Yeah I'm wondering that too. What happened to not giving players yellow for simulation? This is BS. The refs need all the power they can get to help deal with pos sportsmen like Robben.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun 29 Jun - 14:25

sportsczy wrote:Not the scandal of the century imo.


No but he consistently dove before the last minute call to try to get a penalty. And the ref just ignored it. In my opinion in that situation the ref has two options: either he gives a penalty for a foul inside the box or he gives a yellow for diving. Especially for such a repeat offender as Robben.

I think the penalty call was correct though.
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Post by sportsczy Sun 29 Jun - 14:30

The way to do it is for games to get reviewed via video after it's over... anyone who dived, gets a yellow applied to their record. Takes pressure off the refs live and makes the consequences dire for the players since yellows can add up to suspensions. I guarantee you that the number of dives drops like a cliff as a result.

But UEFA and FIFA never do the obvious things.
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Post by Helmer Sun 29 Jun - 14:37

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Has anyone been booked for diving yet? I feel like Robben could have been kicked out of tonight's game for it. It's ridiculous the refs have been so hesitant to show yellows for it.

you scared of nedeland so much Laughing
i think that was a penalty

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Post by CBarca Sun 29 Jun - 14:38

Agreed sports but the fact that FIFA has seeming told refs not to give yellows for simulation is incredible.

Players can flop all they want and get away with it. Incredible. It's hard enough for refs to ref games at this intensity during the world cup without having to question a player's integrity when making a decision.

Blame for calling flops should be placed mostly on
1. Players
2. FIFA for advising no yellows for simulation (speculation yes but I'm not seeing any other reason why they wouldn't). Not to mention the non-existent action they've taken to get rid of it.
After that maybe we can blame refs for falling for it.

Blaming the refs when flopping happens is the cool thing to do though.
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Post by rwo power Sun 29 Jun - 14:46

Actually the number of yellows given is very low in general. In a way I'm not angry about that as it means that less players get suspended. Compare that to the last World Cups where the refs let cards rain like drops of water during a cloudburst.
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Post by Zealous Sun 29 Jun - 14:49

With Robben it's more about the quantity of his dives rather than the quality. I mean none of his dives have been that bad but all of then were clear dives though including today.

As for the pen itself, Howard Webb would have never given that penalty in a million years, which might not be saying much considering Howard Webb's dislike of penalties but you get the idea.

It may have been a 50/50 decision but now Mexico are out of the world cup because of it, how is that fair? Shouldn't such a huge decision be 100% clear?
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sun 29 Jun - 14:49

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
you scared of nedeland so much Laughing
i think that was a penalty


BarrileteCosmico wrote:I think the penalty call was correct though.


Two posts away :coffee:
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Post by Cruijf Sun 29 Jun - 15:29

Zealous wrote:With Robben it's more about the quantity of his dives rather than the quality. I mean none of his dives have been that bad but all of then were clear dives though including today.

As for the pen itself, Howard Webb would have never given that penalty in a million years, which might not be saying much considering Howard Webb's dislike of penalties but you get the idea.

It may have been a 50/50 decision but now Mexico are out of the world cup because of it, how is that fair? Shouldn't such a huge decision be 100% clear?


Don't see how you can label it as a 50/50 decision... It's a clear foul, him exaggerating the contact it doesn't change that. Stonewall pen IMO.
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Post by Zealous Sun 29 Jun - 15:32

Wow OK, no way in hell is that a stonewall pen. I agree that you can give it but the only reason you are convinced is because the ref gave it.

The ref actually waived play on much more clear penalty claims imo.
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Post by Donuts Sun 29 Jun - 15:35

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not a penalty but robbens dive is yeah okay.. makes sense
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Post by Helmer Sun 29 Jun - 15:36

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:
you scared of nedeland so much Laughing
i think that was a penalty


BarrileteCosmico wrote:I think the penalty call was correct though.


Two posts away :coffee:

hmm

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Post by Cruijf Sun 29 Jun - 15:40

Zealous wrote:

The ref actually waived play on much more clear penalty claims imo.


Don't see how that's relevant... Regardless of the penalties both sides could have had, the one that was called was correct.

We can debate all day about the high boot from Vlaar and the foul on Robben in the first half but that doesn't take away from the validity of this penalty.
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Post by CBarca Sun 29 Jun - 16:55

rwo power wrote:Actually the number of yellows given is very low in general. In a way I'm not angry about that as it means that less players get suspended. Compare that to the last World Cups where the refs let cards rain like drops of water during a cloudburst.


That's all fine and well but the fact that players can flop without any consequences is a travesty. It's incredible that flopping is essentially being encouraged on the biggest stage in football. How does this help eliminate flopping from football?

FIFA is essentially saying they're OK with it.

Players who are flopping deserve to get suspended. If they don't want to get suspended, don't flop. Say what you want about reffing but it doesn't make it easy for refs when they have to continually deal with players trying to deceive them and being stripped of the ability to try and deal with it.
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