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Post by Zealous Sun Mar 03, 2013 6:30 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:the guy was brilliant I still think he should have done better on the header but it was probably due to inexperience give him more games and he will improve

whats scary is that Jese is million times better than him both as a striker and as a winger imagine if the guy actually plays for the first team :notbad:

Jese is great and I hope he gets promoted. I however don't think he offers what Morata offers though in terms of work rate. I watch Castilla games, Jese's attitude is not always great tbh.

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Post by halamadrid2 Sun Mar 03, 2013 7:54 pm

tbh I disagree Jese's workrate is tremendous ALWAYS tracks back to help the midfield. However he recently has become so disconnected from the games and I blame it on mou's lack of trust in him Castilla are midtable atm and mou still doesn't let him even train with the first team. a player of jeses quality is good enough to be a starter for the first team let alone bench player.


anyways about morata the guy obviously looks more motivated with the first team I never saw him fight for every ball while with castilla in fact he fell with a slight bit of contact he looked to stay on his feet for the first team
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Post by Die Borussen Wed Mar 20, 2013 12:04 pm

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Post by Chimaera1995 Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:02 pm

Steven Mr Queen and Morata indeed look a lot like eachother.
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Post by halamadrid2 Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:08 am

lol I wss gonna tell you that it is an old picture because he is shaved now until I read the text underneath :I'mveryunoriginal:
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Post by Nedved Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:33 pm

ARSENAL have agreed to sign Real Madrid striker Alvaro Morata on a six-month loan deal in January.

http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/446427/Arsenal-sign-Real-Madrid-starlet-Alvaro-Morata-on-six-month-January-transfer-loan-deal
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Post by sportsczy Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:06 am

I think his return to Madrid is basically out of the question now. Mandzukic is the first choice CF for Juve and Simone Zaza has taken over the backup spot. In essence, Morata is now the 3rd choice for Juve.

Not sure what happened to him.
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Post by Valkyrja Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:59 am

I guess Madrid's bench is better than Juve's
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Post by S Thu Dec 17, 2015 8:09 am

He's not backup to Zaza ffs Laughing

But yeah, he's the first choice sub now

Dybala and Mandzukic have forged a good partnership.Both players are performing excellently atm so it would be hard for Morata to gain back the starting role.

Anyway, the contract extension means he's staying for another yr atleast.
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Post by Isco23 Mon Dec 28, 2015 5:57 pm

I think he won't go back to Real, benzema is better than him and he'll never accept to be the second or the third choice again
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Dec 28, 2015 6:30 pm

He is already 2nd choice at Juve. There are probably only 2 coaches in Europe who do not rotate and Morata was unlucky enough to play for both of them. He would have played alot more for Benitez. Now that they are gone there is no reason for him not to come back
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Post by chad4401 Mon Dec 28, 2015 8:04 pm

well what do you know another 1 season greatness, followed by what happened? the next season typical.
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Post by Claudio84 Tue Dec 29, 2015 2:00 pm

Morata is not that good, and now he thinks he's something else, his finishing is average, last year all went in, like Chad said he had to mantain his level to prove it wasn't a wonder season and just that and he hasn't so far.

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Post by shadexticos Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:38 am

I still don't understand why people keep sayiing he is not world class. Since I saw him in castilla and the type of goals he scored, I knew he was going to play for a big club.All top teams are bidding for him but people keep insisting he is not world class. Top scorer in most of the under 17, I am sure he'd make the number 9 his own in the NT.
He tracks back/hassles the opponents when they are with the ball, he can take a short with either foot, can use his head, can hold up the ball and is fast with the ball at his feet. Not to mention that he is a good finisher.

I would prefer we bring him back and use him. Given that Benzema has decided to be injury prone, I believe he will get enough minutes to grow in confidence. I believe he can play with the same heart and determination as lucas vasquez and has the potential to be a starter.

Oh, and his initial will make a great combination if we were to replace Benzema with him. Alvaro Bale Cristiano - ABC

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Post by shadexticos Fri Jun 03, 2016 7:41 am

My bold predictions about him
If spain go all the way, either him or Nolito make a shout for golden boot
He stars for a big team and gets close to being top scorer.(Provided its not)

Morata, don't fail me, seems like I'm the only madridista that believes in you.

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Post by Turok_TTZ Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:43 pm

Because he failed Carlo when Carlo needed him.
Morata was given many chances to succeed here. he didn't take them. he choked. he failed. I don't know everyone's opinion but for me, I moved on a long time ago.

He had his chance. and from what I observe, he hardly improved at all. Let's see what he can do for Spain in the euros. though I doubt he can change my opinion of him. he is a limited striker.
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Post by titosantill Sun Jun 05, 2016 5:56 pm

honestly, i kinda share turok's feelings, he has hardly improved and is very limited. there's nothing wrong with being a poacher, i think at times we tend to underrate strikers who are mainly poachers. but they need to be very consistent and have solid movement off the ball. he's just okay, not sure if he'll add the right kind of depth i'm looking for, and as pointed out, not much of his game has changed....we'll see what happens
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Jun 05, 2016 6:32 pm

He'll come as a backup... can't have world beaters in every position. He's a good player imo
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Post by Turok_TTZ Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:45 am

titosantill wrote:honestly, i kinda share turok's feelings, he has hardly improved and is very limited. there's nothing wrong with being a poacher, i think at times we tend to underrate strikers who are mainly poachers. but they need to be very consistent and have solid movement off the ball. he's just okay, not sure if he'll add the right kind of depth i'm looking for, and as pointed out, not much of his game has changed....we'll see what happens

the real problem with Morata is that he is only good on the counter attack. when faced with a team who is organised well defensively or one which is parking the bus, morata gets easily taken out of the game and we end up playing with 10 rather than 11 on the pitch.

we have many concerns as is, lets not increase them and waste money which can be better spent.
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Post by halamadrid2 Mon Jun 06, 2016 8:15 am

It would be folish to think that Morata has not improved considerably since leaving us. He is a very good striker capable of competing for a spot in the attack. I dont know why we are waiting so long with our signings. Just get it done already
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Post by sportsczy Mon Jun 06, 2016 9:18 am

Not really. He's the same. The stats from his first year compared to his second prove it out too. There's a reason he couldn't displace Mandzu as the starter.

His finishing is the big problem. If he could fix that, It would be a big step.
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Post by shadexticos Mon Jun 06, 2016 12:56 pm

There is no better motivation for him to improve and polish his skills than his second chance at Madrid. Think of the amount of heart he would play with,(atletico) which sometimes will outweigh skill (madrid) which most believe he does not possess.

U cant compare the energy and concentration of carvajal and vasquez to other players; they bleed white by birth (castilla) and not by conferment.
He is the perfect sub, one who will play his heart out and has the potential (may be unfulfilled) to be a starter.

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Post by shadexticos Mon Jun 06, 2016 1:21 pm

There is no better motivation for him to improve and polish his skills than his second chance at Madrid. Think of the amount of heart he would play with,(atletico) which sometimes will outweigh skill (madrid) which most believe he does not possess.

U cant compare the energy and concentration of carvajal and vasquez to other players; they bleed white by birth (castilla) and not by conferment.
He is the perfect sub, one who will play his heart out and has the potential (may be unfulfilled) to be a starter.

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Post by Nivash Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:19 pm

I tend to agree with the opinion of him having blown his chance here, but I also want him to succeed, even if only to further cement the idea that castilla can produce the sort of players worthy of the 1st team

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Post by Adit Mon Jun 06, 2016 2:56 pm

I don't think judging youngsters at their first stint in top level football is fair. They can always improve and reach a level good enough for us. Casemiro was sent away by Carlo after one year, look at him now after his Porto time, he is a different player than he was before.

If Morata can contribute something to the team then I think we should bring him back. He has good resale value, so there is little risk in this deal. It's not like Benzema contributed anything to the cl last year, while Morata was huge for them in almost all cl games.
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Post by sportsczy Mon Jun 06, 2016 3:22 pm

Sure he can improve. But he was handed the Juve job and he failed... and he had 2 years to do it basically. As others have mentioned and I've seen, he also improved very marginally. I was personally hoping that his tactical awareness would jump because that's the best part of Serie A... and it didn't.

I have my doubts. The risk is 30 mil euros really. Not the end of the world.
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