Rio the Mole ???

Rumors are circulating that Rio has been leaking information out of Old Trafford in regards to Moyes being sacked and other Leaks over the past season ... He posted some pretty lame tweets yesterday that the media have picked up upon , the Reggae / rumors one for example . A lot of fans are feeling a bit let down today that this news broke yesterday about Moyes sacking and dont think its fitting for our club . We did all want Moyes sacked , but most of us didnt expect news like this to be leaked out of our club , and the damage in hindsight it might have on United reputation etc ... If the rumors are true , should Rio face sanctions by the F.A ?? Or is this just a case of Social media pressing the issue to accelerate Moyes probable sacking at the end of season ? Is Rio wrong ?

Rio is likely gone at the end of the season too...he has been woeful this year

It's that idiot Honginstein who is stating speculation like it is fact saying we briefed the press to try get Moyes to resign. It was leaked, same thing when Fergie retired we didn't brief anyone. He's already been told by James Ducker from the the Times and Phil McNulty the BBC that it was not the case.

Honestly, hard to put you finger on it, if it's Rio or not. Anyway, a number of players have shown their dissatisfaction with Moyes in some way, RvP, Kagawa, Welbeck, Hernandez, Zaha, Giggs etc. There's also rumours that Rio has been leaking the starting line-up but what incentive is there for Rio to do that.

Rio is a legend of the club, he doesn't deserve his reputation to be tarnished like this especially on rumours we have no evidence are true.

Busby Babe wrote:It's that idiot Honginstein who is stating speculation like it is fact saying we briefed the press to try get Moyes to resign. It was leaked, same thing when Fergie retired we didn't brief anyone. He's already been told by James Ducker from the the Times and Phil McNulty the BBC that it was not the case.

Honestly, hard to put you finger on it, if it's Rio or not. Anyway, a number of players have shown their dissatisfaction with Moyes in some way, RvP, Kagawa, Welbeck, Hernandez, Zaha, Giggs etc. There's also rumours that Rio has been leaking the starting line-up but what incentive is there for Rio to do that.

Rio is a legend of the club, he doesn't deserve his reputation to be tarnished like this especially on rumours we have no evidence are true.

I was actually thinking something similar ... still I dont think its in anybodys interest apart from some journalists that information is finding its way out of old trafford . I hope there is nothing to it , but last week Rio did come out to the media with "I am living the dream" interview , and " I want to stay at United" , even though we all know its highly unlikely .. I guess it does look like a smoking gun in regards to yesterdays leaks and his pretty silly tweets trying to be cryptic and so obvious at the same time . I hope its wrong , but if true , I just cant respect the guy , no matter how bad Moyes was ... hell he should meet my boss !!!

Not condoning if it is true, Rio doesn't seem like the brightest guy. But we have no idea how Moyes treated the players he might have been a real dick, it might be somewhat understandable from the players. Phill Neville once said that he made the players at Everton do heavy running and when some vomited Moyes would laugh it off. Even Moyes' former colleague Ian Ross didn't paint Moyes in the best light. Kevin Kilbane said once that Moyes once punished him by making him walk back for miles and made sure the other players didn't give him a lift back. To the press he criticises the team endlessly, imagine a player criticised Moyes to the press it would be such a big deal but when it happens the other way round no one says anything.

Honestly, I don't buy this whole Man Utd ruined good guy Moyes' life from taking him away from good club Everton and now we've kicked him to the curb. We have given him months more than he deserved, and the players and the club have been painted in a bad way. There's loads of other managers that have actually deserved time and have been sacked. Those are the ones I feel sympathy for. This is one of the most deserving sackings in a very, very long time.

Don't like the game Moysie, don't play it.

I hope it turns out not to be true ... I like Rio , even though I agree he isnt the sharpest , and I think he should steer clear of social media jibes .. As things stand ,  We enter a period of known unknowns, to borrow from the great Rummy himself. I do think we'll avoid becoming a circus club, but the next manager will bear an incredible burden. The board and the players have to do their part, and both were partially culpable on the terrible reign of Moyes. The board because they just rubber stamped a daft and rash decision to appoint Moyes in the first place and the players because they just gave up. I'm not sure when they gave up, but they looked like a demoralized side in West Brom match at OT. You could even sense it at Anfield early in the season when Sturridge struck the match winner with his back. I wasn't able to watch the summer friendlies in the Far East, but match reports suggested indifference and even indolence by the senior players. Most of the blame has to fall on Ferguson and Charlton, however, who insisted on a Scot who simply was not up to the job. The players knew that instantly, it seems, and a season that should have ended no worse than fourth or maybe even fifth ended disastrously. The last thing we need at the moment is players thinking that they can get managers sacked , or who will / could be the next manager .. United is just to big a club for that .

Yeah, I agree, but I don't think the players gave up. I think they tried but they played with fear. Dennis Law said when they played for Wilf Mcguinness people said the players didn't play for him, but they did. They just played with fear, concentrating on the opponents so much it was almost like they were paranoid.

Won't be surprised if it is him. He's acted like an unprofessional tw't through out Moyes' tenure. Ok I get it, he prolly dislikes him as much as we did, but atleast be classy about it. He's one our most senior players and all he did was tweet out cryptic messages. twisting the knife further. What sort of example is that?

You know what, I change my mind, I actually do think it was he who was leaking out our line ups to Ogden hours before K.O. If you read between the lines, you can tell he had a disregard for this season and carried a 'I don't give fck' attitude. On the pitch and off it.

I consider him a legend, and he obviously cares about the club, but the way he has conducted himself this season has been shambolic. A bit of class wouldn't have gone amiss. One of the younger players I could understand, but not from one of our senior players and supposed leaders.

RED wrote:Won't be surprised if it is him. He's acted like an unprofessional tw't through out Moyes' tenure. Ok I get it, he prolly dislikes him as much as we did, but atleast be classy about it. He's one our most senior players and all he did was tweet out cryptic messages. twisting the knife further. What sort of example is that?

You know what, I change my mind, I actually do think it was he who was leaking out our line ups to Ogden hours before K.O. If you read between the lines, you can tell he had a disregard for this season and carried a 'I don't give fck' attitude. On the pitch and off it.

I consider him a legend, and he obviously cares about the club, but the way he has conducted himself this season has been shambolic. A bit of class wouldn't have gone amiss. One of the younger players I could understand, but not from one of our senior players and supposed leaders.

Respect Bro , I think thats true and why fingers are starting to point at him .. even some of his selfy vids we have seen this season have said , I am taking the pi$$ and thats about it .. He hasnt shown this season and even Keane said Rio has to step up .... Moyes was a disaster .. but he is still a man , and I felt for him yesterday with the media wolfs barking at his door ... guy has a family after all .. Glad he is gone but still .. Rio is way to friendly with some media sources , and the team and club dont need a rat in the kitchen , especially not now ..

Angoulême wrote:

RED wrote:Won't be surprised if it is him. He's acted like an unprofessional tw't through out Moyes' tenure. Ok I get it, he prolly dislikes him as much as we did, but atleast be classy about it. He's one our most senior players and all he did was tweet out cryptic messages. twisting the knife further. What sort of example is that?

You know what, I change my mind, I actually do think it was he who was leaking out our line ups to Ogden hours before K.O. If you read between the lines, you can tell he had a disregard for this season and carried a 'I don't give fck' attitude. On the pitch and off it.

I consider him a legend, and he obviously cares about the club, but the way he has conducted himself this season has been shambolic. A bit of class wouldn't have gone amiss. One of the younger players I could understand, but not from one of our senior players and supposed leaders.

Respect Bro , I think thats true and why fingers are starting to point at him .. even some of his selfy vids we have seen this season have said , I am taking the pi$$ and thats about it .. He hasnt shown this season and even Keane said Rio has to step up .... Moyes was a disaster .. but he is still a man , and I felt for him yesterday with the media wolfs barking at his door ... guy has a family after all .. Glad he is gone but still .. Rio is way to friendly with some media sources , and the team and club dont need a rat in the kitchen , especially not now ..

Yep. He was acting like a childish idiot throughout. Constantly airing out things that should have remained in house. Came across as spiteful, and quite frankly, did his reputation no good.

Right off the bat he complained about Moyes' method of selecting his line-ups. That raised the early signs that there was friction between the two. Then after news broke out regardingMoyes' future, he instigated it by commenting a thinly veiled blast on Moyes via Twitter. (can't remember exactly what he said). And his latest tweet was 'Rumours' in amidst the media frenzy last night.

I'm not saying I am 100% certain that it is him. I just have a pretty good feeling it was him. Many signs, imo, point to him as being one of the leaks. He prolly stopped leaking some info a while ago, but I def think he betrayed Moyes out of spite at some point this season. You can tell he didn't like him at all, and didn't respect him one bit.

Yeah, I'm not saying Rio hasn't done anything especially with those cryptic tweets but then so has Hernandez and Zaha. Then there's Welbeck who is leaking that he wants to leave. Kagawa and RvP who openly criticise the managers tactics. I think both the players and Moyes have no one to blame but themselves. But, I can't really blame Rio for the starting line-up, that would be unfair unless confirmed. I love Keane, but my word he is a hypocrite, at least none of those players openly cristised their team-mates on MUTV. The whole thing has been a shambles, lets not look back at Moyes tenure it's been depressing The leaks have been very unfair on him granted, but it could be some idiot in the background who wanted to release the biggest story at United since SAF's retirement.

may be there was no other way.

The way things have gone so far this season I am least surprised and its like It was bound to happen this way isnt it. , right from the beginning where we leaked info about our transfer targets to the media for them to party over it and finally for us to become a laughing stock. There was no control whatsoever due to some unknown reasons.

Plus Angouleme and Red I didnt get it. You guys are pi$$ed off because of what exactly ? Is it because a senior member such as rio of all people is the one who is leaking info or is it the fact that information itself is leaked in the first place.

anyway if whatever happened didnt happen how can we say that he will be gone by now and that I believe is the only thing that matters.
The board was unanimously backing him and Fergie and BC were so stubborn that even for once it felt as if the only thing they care about were their own ego.
And as Busby Babe rightly pointed out we are absolutely unaware of what was happening behind the scenes especially while training and stuff.  It must be a complete clusterfek there. who knows and if thats the case whats wrong with players expressing their disenchantment and disappointment to the media. Its not as big a crime as the board officials themselves revealing our transfer targets. At least the former is for the benefit of the team.
Now I agree the cryptic message thingy and all is bs and it shouldnt have been that way definitely. If Rio was having a problem, he should have had the balls to face the media and express it properly.

Regardless of the manner it was handled, which of course was clumsy, I at least will thank the mole whoever it was if he solely was the one who orchestrated a huge chunk of this axe. I mean as I said may be there was no other way to bring an end to this rot and the one who did it, did it for the good of the club.

And regarding the feeling sorry for moyes thingy. I dont think so. He deserved it totally. He is indeed the luckiest manager football has ever seen. And now if he is a sorry figure in front of media, it has nothing to do with anyone else and he has only himself to blame for for the plight he is in.

This guy likes fame a bit too much. It will probably be difficult for him when he has to leave United / retire. He likes that people take notice of him.

Busby Babe wrote:It's that idiot Honginstein who is stating speculation like it is fact saying we briefed the press to try get Moyes to resign. It was leaked, same thing when Fergie retired we didn't brief anyone. He's already been told by James Ducker from the the Times and Phil McNulty the BBC that it was not the case.

Maybe not officially 'briefed', but how do you explain that all news outlets ran the same story with similar wording at exactly the same time?
That's not someone having an 'inside source' scoop where something gets through, that is an intentional 'leak', or feed, to connected journalists.
Can't imagine Rio calling Jackson from the Guardian, Ogden from the Telegraph etc. all at 13h to tell them the same. That has to be some source which they're all used to getting inside information from, i.e. some liaison person.

Hapless_Hans wrote:

Busby Babe wrote:It's that idiot Honginstein who is stating speculation like it is fact saying we briefed the press to try get Moyes to resign. It was leaked, same thing when Fergie retired we didn't brief anyone. He's already been told by James Ducker from the the Times and Phil McNulty the BBC that it was not the case.

Maybe not officially 'briefed', but how do you explain that all news outlets ran the same story with similar wording at exactly the same time?
That's not someone having an 'inside source' scoop where something gets through, that is an intentional 'leak', or feed, to connected journalists.
Can't imagine Rio calling Jackson from the Guardian, Ogden from the Telegraph etc. all at 13h to tell them the same. That has to be some source which they're all used to getting inside information from, i.e. some liaison person.

I don't think the club decided to purposely let out he's going to be sacked, I think someone has been leaking stuff, they're obviously high up. Just like things were getting leaked about SAF getting retired. It would be very unclassy for the board to purposely leak stuff like this, that's why I don't think they have. It's just very bad PR there's no benefit of doing it. It wasn't that difficult to guess as well, most Man Utd fans have been waiting for it to be mathematically impossible to reach the CL hoping for some clause. Those journalists only needed a small signal to run the story because it's more likely than not it would be true.  BBC and SSN didn't report the stories like the others they don't take risks and wait for something to be more credible. They contacted the club, but the club said no we haven't sacked him, but couldn't comment if we would be. In the end, it won't be the first time it's been leaked by a club that a manager is going to be sacked, nor will it be the last. When asked a few months ago he would say 'I'm here for the long term, everyone knows there's a big rebuilding job', but more recently it's been 'I don't know, I can only focus on my job' which suggests he knew on some level.

Lumiere_Blanche wrote:may be there was no other way.

The way things have gone so far this season I am least surprised and its like It was bound to happen this way isnt it. , right from the beginning where we leaked info about our transfer targets to the media for them to party over it and finally for us to become a laughing stock. There was no control whatsoever due to some unknown reasons.

Plus Angouleme and Red I didnt get it. You guys are pi$$ed off because of what exactly ? Is it because a senior member such as rio of all people is the one who is leaking info or is it the fact that information itself is leaked in the first place.

anyway if whatever happened didnt happen how can we say that he will be gone by now and that I believe is the only thing that matters.
The board was unanimously backing him and Fergie and BC were so stubborn that even for once it felt as if the only thing they care about were their own ego.
And as Busby Babe rightly pointed out we are absolutely unaware of what was happening behind the scenes especially while training and stuff.  It must be a complete clusterfek there. who knows and if thats the case whats wrong with players expressing their disenchantment and disappointment to the media. Its not as big a crime as the board officials themselves revealing our transfer targets. At least the former is for the benefit of the team.
Now I agree the cryptic message thingy and all is bs and it shouldnt have been that way definitely. If Rio was having a problem, he should have had the balls to face the media and express it properly.

Regardless of the manner it was handled, which of course was clumsy, I at least will thank the mole whoever it was if he solely was the one who orchestrated a huge chunk of this axe. I mean as I said may be there was no other way to bring an end to this rot and the one who did it, did it for the good of the club.

And regarding the feeling sorry for moyes thingy. I dont think so. He deserved it totally. He is indeed the luckiest manager football has ever seen. And now if he is a sorry figure in front of media, it has nothing to do with anyone else and he has only himself to blame for for the plight he is in.

I'm annoyed with Rio because of the way he handled himself. He has a huge following in social media and as a senior figure at Utd, he has a responsibility in the way he conducts himself off the pitch. To repeatedly tweet subliminal digs at Moyes via Twitter was rather classless.

The only solid reason I suspect him of being one of the 'leaks'.

RED wrote:

Lumiere_Blanche wrote:may be there was no other way.

The way things have gone so far this season I am least surprised and its like It was bound to happen this way isnt it. , right from the beginning where we leaked info about our transfer targets to the media for them to party over it and finally for us to become a laughing stock. There was no control whatsoever due to some unknown reasons.

Plus Angouleme and Red I didnt get it. You guys are pi$$ed off because of what exactly ? Is it because a senior member such as rio of all people is the one who is leaking info or is it the fact that information itself is leaked in the first place.

anyway if whatever happened didnt happen how can we say that he will be gone by now and that I believe is the only thing that matters.
The board was unanimously backing him and Fergie and BC were so stubborn that even for once it felt as if the only thing they care about were their own ego.
And as Busby Babe rightly pointed out we are absolutely unaware of what was happening behind the scenes especially while training and stuff.  It must be a complete clusterfek there. who knows and if thats the case whats wrong with players expressing their disenchantment and disappointment to the media. Its not as big a crime as the board officials themselves revealing our transfer targets. At least the former is for the benefit of the team.
Now I agree the cryptic message thingy and all is bs and it shouldnt have been that way definitely. If Rio was having a problem, he should have had the balls to face the media and express it properly.

Regardless of the manner it was handled, which of course was clumsy, I at least will thank the mole whoever it was if he solely was the one who orchestrated a huge chunk of this axe. I mean as I said may be there was no other way to bring an end to this rot and the one who did it, did it for the good of the club.

And regarding the feeling sorry for moyes thingy. I dont think so. He deserved it totally. He is indeed the luckiest manager football has ever seen. And now if he is a sorry figure in front of media, it has nothing to do with anyone else and he has only himself to blame for for the plight he is in.

I'm annoyed with Rio because of the way he handled himself. He has a huge following in social media and as a senior figure at Utd, he has a responsibility in the way he conducts himself off the pitch. To repeatedly tweet subliminal digs at Moyes via Twitter was rather classless.

The only solid reason I suspect him of being one of the 'leaks'.

Rio is a clown. The guy has been too busy with his 'twit fam' in the last few seasons, and it has shown. Once he lost his oace he has been on a rapid decline. Can't wait for him to be gone tbh.