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Post by ExtremistEnigma Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:32 am

One thing I don't get is how flawlessly and unrealistically Sansa escaped?! I mean literally no one saw her leaving and no one followed her and Dontos as they got onto the boat?

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Post by DuringTheWar Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:32 am

Zealous wrote:

I'm not condoning rape in any way but

Sounds like the good old "I'm not racist but....", only 1000x worse. Heh I don't blame yeh, this show normalize atrocious things every week. I don't know a lot about American tv but apparently that's HBO's style
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:37 am

Nah I can believe it tbh

Soon as it happened, everybody was looking at Joffrey in shock. And Cerci was screaming at the guards to take Tyrion into custody. So by the time they realised Sansa was gone, she was cloaked and away in a massive city. Then the row boat was hidden away as opposed to being in the port.

Believable enough for me imo, only people who wanted Sansa captured were well behind her.
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:46 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Wat

Leader of the people AKA she's caring and the one people will get behind

She could be the worst leader ever but it's still true as she's helping people

That point is irrelevant too, what leader in GOT doesn't have mad protection



Stannis has a woman and her seemingly all powerful God watching over him

Joffrey made 4,0000 enemies and still survived for a while

Tywin has so much gold and reputation nobody dares touch him.

I don't consider Joffery a leader, Tywin is the leader now, Tyrion was before. Stannis had to face a bunch of idiots rivalling his claim (Robb Stark among them) and actually had to fight competent people (Tyrion). Most of all he has superior experience and calculation to almost anyone, and has a real, tangible claim.

Tommen for me, has much more potential as a leader if Kind and good hearted is what you want. Because he actually demonstrates a willingness to learn how to actually runs things. Or even Jon, he at least understands the realities of life, even though he too is slow to learn.

Dany is entitled and stubborn, which can be cool if you have a modicum of a brain, but when you're only in the position you in because a neveredning stream of support magically sways your way, it's pretty annoying.

Caring is all good. Go be mother Teresa or something  Laughing 
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:49 am

Nah i'm not saying I want a kind hearted leader. What I mean is the fact that Dany is kind-hearted makes me think she won't get the throne. In typical GOT style.


Also, Tommen with Tywin & co will be a fine leader for now. Basically he'll be manipulated in a good way by the council.
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Post by Le Samourai Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:52 am

Tommen will be GOAT if Cerci can be kept away. This conversation is urging me toward spoiling, I'll think I'll stop here Laughing
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:53 am

Looooool yeah
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Post by El Gunner Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:07 am

Tomwin Lannister wrote:Dany is a kind person, with an OP as f*** army. She's the leader of the people.

Which is why I think she'll fail miserably half-way through her assault on kings landing in the far distant future Laughing
I'm with you on this one.
Also think she'll fail miserably.
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Apr 22, 2014 7:49 am

RealGunner wrote: Of course he had a major hand in Joffrey's poisoning. Why though? What does he gain? I don't think Margery has any involvement in all of this. Lady Olenna is obviously a sly women.

My best guess is he sees her as a younger Cat, and wants to educate her, learn to play the game, maybe love her eco smile and then rule together.

I think Catelyn's death got him by surprise and he wants to substitute her, by a possibly smarter Catelyn. But I think in the end it'll be his downfall and she'll end up out smarting him and betray him, ironically by the only person he expects to be loyal.
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Post by M99 Tue Apr 22, 2014 8:27 am

This was certainly the worst episode of the three that aired so far. I am expecting better from the remaining seven. Of course we can't have Joffrey die every episode but still, more of the standards this show has set for itself.
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:10 am

Zealous wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:I wish Dany had named drogon as her champion, but that would probably ruin this episodes budget

Nah would draw too many parallels with the Mad King imo. Since he declared fire the champion of house Targaryen.

(Your reason is more likely though lol)
Had to google that. Didn't even know the damn dragons had names Laughing who tf cares? Laughing
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Post by M99 Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:18 am

Blue Barrett wrote:
Zealous wrote:
BarrileteCosmico wrote:I wish Dany had named drogon as her champion, but that would probably ruin this episodes budget

Nah would draw too many parallels with the Mad King imo. Since he declared fire the champion of house Targaryen.

(Your reason is more likely though lol)

Had to google that. Didn't even know the damn dragons had names Laughing who tf cares? Laughing

Black one is Drogon.

Green one is Rhaegal.

Cream is Viserion.

And I do care hmm
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:21 am

And wtf is this Iron Bank and Golden Company shit Laughing
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:22 am

M99 wrote:
Blue Barrett wrote:
Zealous wrote:

Nah would draw too many parallels with the Mad King imo. Since he declared fire the champion of house Targaryen.

(Your reason is more likely though lol)

Had to google that. Didn't even know the damn dragons had names :lol:who tf cares? Laughing

Black one is Drogon.

Green one is Rhaegal.

Cream is Viserion.

And I do care hmm
Wait....black, green and cream? FFS they all look black with big wings Laughing
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:24 am

What is it with these Targaryens that fire doesn't hurt them? Neutral
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Post by M99 Tue Apr 22, 2014 9:42 am

Barret pls.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ad/b7/9a/adb79a12a1f3540eb3b4eb75a46a8536.jpg

And also,

Granny -Do Targaryens become immune to fire once they "bond" to their dragons?

George_RR_Martin -Granny, thanks for asking that. It gives me a chance to clear up a common misconception. TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE! (emphasis mine) The birth of Dany's dragons was unique, magical, wonderous, a miracle. She is called The Unburnt because she walked into the flames and lived. But her brother sure as hell wasn't immune to that molten gold.
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Post by LeVersacci Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:50 am

She did enter the very hot pool in episode 1 or 2 in S1 like it was normal.

Born immune to fire hmm
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Post by M99 Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:09 pm

Spoiler free: http://gameofthrones.wikia.com/wiki/Iron_Bank_of_Braavos
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Post by LeVersacci Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:34 pm

So Iron bank funds the enemy if they don't get their gold back. Is this why Davos wants to talk with Iron bank hmm

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Post by M99 Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:05 pm

LeVersacci wrote:So Iron bank funds the enemy if they don't get their gold back. Is this why Davos wants to talk with Iron bank hmm

Most likely reason hmm
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Apr 22, 2014 3:34 pm

M99 wrote:Barret pls.

http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ad/b7/9a/adb79a12a1f3540eb3b4eb75a46a8536.jpg

And also,

Granny -Do Targaryens become immune to fire once they "bond" to their dragons?

George_RR_Martin -Granny, thanks for asking that. It gives me a chance to clear up a common misconception. TARGARYENS ARE NOT IMMUNE TO FIRE! (emphasis mine) The birth of Dany's dragons was unique, magical, wonderous, a miracle. She is called The Unburnt because she walked into the flames and lived. But her brother sure as hell wasn't immune to that molten gold.
Loool I see. Never took note. Cons of being a non book reader.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:07 pm

Barrett pls pay more attention.
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Post by Blue Barrett Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:18 pm

I tend to zone out sometimes tbf Laughing

Only when I watch the episodes for the second time do I pick up the little details.
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Post by RealGunner Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:30 pm

Lol don't blame you. The whole world of Ice and Fire is so big that many tend to miss out on small things. Plus the names are all confusing, and there are too many names to keep up specially if you are watching it on TV rather than the books where they keep popping up so you remember them better.

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Post by Soul Tue Apr 22, 2014 4:45 pm

RealGunner wrote:Fantastic episode once again. The way they show all the arcs and do justice to each of them equally, that's one of the biggest strength of the show. Every arc was as good as each other.

Jamie lmfao. Despite what he did, I do think he realised that things are not just the same with her and Cersei anymore. This was the 2nd time she rejected him. I can't see their relationship as close in the future personally and also this was probably the last bit of heel-ness Jaime had in him and that truly will turn him into face full time.

Littlefinger back with a bang. The way he got Sansa out of Kings Landing and the way he smashed one of the necklace's pearl. Of course he had a major hand in Joffrey's poisoning. Why though? What does he gain? I don't think Margery has any involvement in all of this. Lady Olenna is obviously a sly women.

Tyrion-Podrick scene was amazing. Probably the best dramatic bit of the whole episode. Tyrion clearly owes Podrick for saving him on the blackwaters bay while Podrick owes Tyrion for all he did to him. Was bare emotional. Hope he gtfo of the kings landing before he gets beheaded by Cersei.

Ser Davos :bow::bow:🙇Amazing man ffs. He is the only one who is keeping Stannis to his real self and not Melisandre's puppet. His plan is cunning. Iron bank are the richest people in the whole world while the crown owes a massive debt to them as explained in Season 2. They can provide the Gold for Stannis.

I don't know whether to like Hound or Hate him. His ways are so controversial lol. He was right about what he said in the end though.

The war in the wall is coming. 100 men vs 10,000+. Can't see how the nights watch are going to win this one. Regarding Sam, he believes he is doing the right thing but he isn't for me. But meh.

Finally Mereen. I loved that scene. Thought it was really well done. Daario 🙇Danys throwing the chains in the end was amazing. I don't know why some of you are hating on her. I don't think she is going to go to Westeros anytime soon. Seeing from the trailers, she said something about learning how to rule with mereen. Plus she wants free as many slaves as possible. She has forgotten Westeros and doesn't even mention it anymore.

Forget about her going back imo. She needs to learn how to rule first.

RG ffs Proud I love your post episode mini reviews Proud
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Post by EarlyPrototype Tue Apr 22, 2014 5:06 pm

Blue Barrett wrote:I tend to zone out sometimes tbf Laughing

Only when I watch the episodes for the second time do I pick up the little details.

This.

Although I don't usually re-watch episodes I come and read the posts here. Laughing

Btw do the book readers know what's going to happen in the tv series already?
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