The decline of the South America talent pool
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
No way he starts for Colombia and England.Betty La Fea wrote:You can count the number of teams Fred wouldnt start for in the world cup on one hand
1.Chile
2.Ivory Coast
3.Argentina
4.Germany
5. Italy
He'd easily start for the rest.
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
As far as Freds confed cup goes, who cares?
Judging players in a glorified pre-season tournament is just as bad, if not worse than judging players via Youtube
Giaccherini was a beast in the Confed cup, as was Candreva.
Judging players in a glorified pre-season tournament is just as bad, if not worse than judging players via Youtube
Giaccherini was a beast in the Confed cup, as was Candreva.
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
BarrileteCosmico wrote:No way he starts for Colombia and England.Betty La Fea wrote:You can count the number of teams Fred wouldnt start for in the world cup on one hand
1.Chile
2.Ivory Coast
3.Argentina
4.Germany
5. Italy
He'd easily start for the rest.
There are a lot more national teams he wouldn't start for, I thought the guy was being sarcastic.
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So fred wouldn't start for any of the contenders?Betty La Fea wrote:You can count the number of teams Fred wouldnt start for in the world cup on one hand
1.Chile
2.Ivory Coast
3.Argentina
4.Germany
5. Italy
He'd easily start for the rest.
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US either.BarrileteCosmico wrote:No way he starts for Colombia and England.Betty La Fea wrote:You can count the number of teams Fred wouldnt start for in the world cup on one hand
1.Chile
2.Ivory Coast
3.Argentina
4.Germany
5. Italy
He'd easily start for the rest.
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Betty La Fea wrote:You can count the number of teams Fred wouldnt start for in the world cup on one hand
1.Chile
2.Ivory Coast
3.Argentina
4.Germany
5. Italy
He'd easily start for the rest.
So now Fred better than Suarez / Cavani

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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
make sure to not put his words on my mouth in the near future.I already said Fred would only start for us when it comes to top NTs
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sportsczy wrote:The midfield of Paulinho-Gustavo is world class too... don't forget. They have fellow WC players Ramires and Lucas Leiva backing them up.
Ramires, so world class hes being rotated with a near fossilised Frank Lampard

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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
BeautifulGame wrote:Betty La Fea wrote:You can count the number of teams Fred wouldnt start for in the world cup on one hand
1.Chile
2.Ivory Coast
3.Argentina
4.Germany
5. Italy
He'd easily start for the rest.
So now Fred better than Suarez / Cavani![]()
On the national level he's definitely better than Cavani.
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Cavani plays at RW/LW for Uruguay.
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
Tomwin Lannister wrote:As far as Freds confed cup goes, who cares?
Judging players in a glorified pre-season tournament is just as bad, if not worse than judging players via Youtube
and writing off players simply because they don't play in a top league isn't ?
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farfan wrote:Tomwin Lannister wrote:As far as Freds confed cup goes, who cares?
Judging players in a glorified pre-season tournament is just as bad, if not worse than judging players via Youtube
and writing off players simply because they don't play in a top league isn't ?
well top players play in top leagues. Are we really going to argue about that ?
I've watched Fred at lyon regularly and no he's not a WC nor a top CF. doesn't mean he's a bad player, far from it. In the right system with the right player he can do a great job like he did in the confed cup. Would you say that Fabiano 2010 was WC or a top CF ? no.
Fred in doing a great job but he's a system player imo.
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farfan wrote:Tomwin Lannister wrote:As far as Freds confed cup goes, who cares?
Judging players in a glorified pre-season tournament is just as bad, if not worse than judging players via Youtube
and writing off players simply because they don't play in a top league isn't ?
Hope this isn't aimed at me considering this is my first post on this debate
I'm just pointing out that using a Confed cup to justify an opinion is madness.
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why is it madness?
Spain took all their starters, and most definitely tried to call it a pointless pre-season tournament is stupid..
Spain took all their starters, and most definitely tried to call it a pointless pre-season tournament is stupid..
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
So basically,to sum up this thread,Fred starting for Brazil=Decline of South American talent pool 
Seems a massive exaggeration.

Seems a massive exaggeration.
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I seriously wonder how people can call Fred a world-class player. How low are some of your standards?

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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
My question is why is a decline when but 10 years ago they were apparently fine, who is to say it won't pick up again 10 years from now? decline kind of implies it will never pick up.
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Kick wrote:My question is why is a decline when but 10 years ago they were apparently fine, who is to say it won't pick up again 10 years from now? decline kind of implies it will never pick up.
My question is why does Brazil not having a WC CF mean that the entire South American continent is out of talent? Did they have any WC CF in 1982? Yet that side is considered the most talented of all Brazilian sides... not to mention that Chile and Colombia have never been as strong as they are now, and Argentina, Brazil and Uruguay remain top 8 sides. SA football has definitely not declined.
Sidenote: Fred plays for a team that was 17th last season in the Brazilian league and narrowly escaped relegation. WC

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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
Brazilian League is the most unpredictable league in the world unlike other leagues (especially in Argentina), anyone could relegate and anyone could win.. there hasn't been a back to back winner since Sao Paulo almost 10 years ago or so. Fred was also injured majority of the season so he had no contribution towards their relegation, love how yall forget he was the leading scorer the season prior with 30+ goals and also scored a nice lump some prior to him going down last season.
Anywho Nick is reaching.. he said South America talent pool is declining because we don't have any up and coming greats when thats very wrong. SA has players dominating in Europe and in SA of all ages.. from Suarez to James Rodriguez to the next GOAT CB, Balanta of River Plate.. there's talent to spread.
Anywho Nick is reaching.. he said South America talent pool is declining because we don't have any up and coming greats when thats very wrong. SA has players dominating in Europe and in SA of all ages.. from Suarez to James Rodriguez to the next GOAT CB, Balanta of River Plate.. there's talent to spread.
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
S wrote:So basically,to sum up this thread,Fred starting for Brazil=Decline of South American talent pool
Seems a massive exaggeration.
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Brazil is overrated.
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
I think South American talent pool it's stable. What it's not stable, as OP pointed out, it's Argentina's and especially Brazil's talent pool, that has declined.
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M99 wrote:S wrote:So basically,to sum up this thread,Fred starting for Brazil=Decline of South American talent pool
Seems a massive exaggeration.
It's not only fred. It's going from this:
Rivaldo - Ronaldo - Ronaldinho
To this:
Hulk ? - Fred - Neymar
Neymar is the only one close to the three aforementioned players that won the WC in 2002.
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Strikers in general have disappeared.
When u you think of quality strikers, only a few come to mind.
When u you think of quality strikers, only a few come to mind.
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
free_cat wrote:M99 wrote:S wrote:So basically,to sum up this thread,Fred starting for Brazil=Decline of South American talent pool
Seems a massive exaggeration.
It's not only fred. It's going from this:
Rivaldo - Ronaldo - Ronaldinho
To this:
Hulk ? - Fred - Neymar
Neymar is the only one close to the three aforementioned players that won the WC in 2002.
this make sense
drop of quality there
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Re: The decline of the South America talent pool
Yet they still schooled the reigning champs in all facets of the game.
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