The Most Effective Player Of The Season 2013-2014
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Re: The Most Effective Player Of The Season 2013-2014
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I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year. Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.
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I know it's a lot of trouble, but I wonder how much more accurate it would be if pts were deducted in relation to "no. of shots taken."
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cory trevor wrote:I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year. Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.
Under Rodgers (18 months), Liverpool without Suarez: Played 16
12 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses
We're not a one man team.
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How would the point deduction work? I think that's a relevant stat but not necessarily what this thread aims to tackle, which is how often a player makes a contribution to the goal-count, regardless of how many shots it takes them. In my opinion, it's just as bad to take a million as it is to only take a shot when it is clear you're going to make it.ronalessi wrote:I know it's a lot of trouble, but I wonder how much more accurate it would be if pts were deducted in relation to "no. of shots taken."
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McAgger wrote:cory trevor wrote:I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year. Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.
Under Rodgers (18 months), Liverpool without Suarez: Played 16
12 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses
We're not a one man team.
You're right, I also put stock into that convincing 2-0 win away to mighty Indonesia XI.
Let's get down to brass tacks, without Suarez right now Liverpool isn't sitting in a CL spot.
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BarrileteCosmico wrote:How would the point deduction work? I think that's a relevant stat but not necessarily what this thread aims to tackle, which is how often a player makes a contribution to the goal-count, regardless of how many shots it takes them. In my opinion, it's just as bad to take a million as it is to only take a shot when it is clear you're going to make it.ronalessi wrote:I know it's a lot of trouble, but I wonder how much more accurate it would be if pts were deducted in relation to "no. of shots taken."
I guess I confused Most Efficient player with Most Effective player for a second there.
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cory trevor wrote:McAgger wrote:cory trevor wrote:I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year. Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.
Under Rodgers (18 months), Liverpool without Suarez: Played 16
12 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses
We're not a one man team.
You're right, I also put stock into that convincing 2-0 win away to mighty Indonesia XI.
Let's get down to brass tacks, without Suarez right now Liverpool isn't sitting in a CL spot.
Well I obviously didn't count the meaningless preseason games
And in reality Sturridge can lead the line of attack by himself just as good. The only way I can see us struggling would be if we were without both of them since we have no one else that comes even remotely close to being good up top. And we have proven we can get results with either of those guys.
But obviously we have a higher chance of doing damage with one of the best players playing for us and who wouldn't. But again we aren't a one man team.
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Btw welcome to the forum mate we always love our new members
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Can some German-speaking user tell me what 'Länderspiele' means? I'm not including it in the calculations but maybe I should be.
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BC, don't listen to the fake German RG. He's lying.
Länderspiel means "national team cap".
Länderspiel means "national team cap".
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I believe that's what he said
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"Länderspiele" are all international matches, both friendlies and competitive matches. You could literally translate it as "matches/games between countries".
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McAgger wrote:I believe that's what he said
He said "cap". Xavi has 700 caps for Barcelona now. You don't say Xavi has played 700 "Länderspiele". Länderspiel only applies to games with your national team.
"Land" = country.
"Spiele" = games.
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Only goals and assists are being measured?
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futbol wrote:McAgger wrote:I believe that's what he said
He said "cap". Xavi has 700 caps for Barcelona now. You don't say Xavi has played 700 "Länderspiele". Länderspiel only applies to games with your national team.
"Land" = country.
"Spiele" = games.
You might get into my to-stab list soon at this rate
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What about Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang? Or is he just outside the list? (I have atm no time to calculate this) http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/pierre-emerick-aubameyang/profil/spieler_58864.html
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He was dropped from the top 30 spots at 0.89
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Ah, I see. Thx
Great job with the list, btw!
Great job with the list, btw!
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Benzema is not on the list
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what about Firmino (Hoffenheim), he has 13 goals and 11+ assists.
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the xcx wrote:Benzema is not on the list
Remember dude, its not benzemas fault! He's a false 10 center second supporting false 9 striker who needs the team to help him!
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Will add him for the next update.Khaled wrote:what about Firmino (Hoffenheim), he has 13 goals and 11+ assists.
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Benzema back in the list. Firmino the GOATest player I've never heard of.
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