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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:37 pm

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Post by cory trevor Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:54 pm

I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year. Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.
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Post by ronalessi Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:53 am

I know it's a lot of trouble, but I wonder how much more accurate it would be if pts were deducted in relation to "no. of shots taken."
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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:19 am

cory trevor wrote:I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year.  Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.

Under Rodgers (18 months), Liverpool without Suarez: Played 16

12 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses


We're not a one man team. :coffee:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:25 am

ronalessi wrote:I know it's a lot of trouble, but I wonder how much more accurate it would be if pts were deducted in relation to "no. of shots taken."
How would the point deduction work? I think that's a relevant stat but not necessarily what this thread aims to tackle, which is how often a player makes a contribution to the goal-count, regardless of how many shots it takes them. In my opinion, it's just as bad to take a million as it is to only take a shot when it is clear you're going to make it.
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Post by cory trevor Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:18 am

McAgger wrote:
cory trevor wrote:I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year.  Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.

Under Rodgers (18 months), Liverpool without Suarez: Played 16

12 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses


We're not a one man team. :coffee:

You're right, I also put stock into that convincing 2-0 win away to mighty Indonesia XI.

Let's get down to brass tacks, without Suarez right now Liverpool isn't sitting in a CL spot.
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Post by ronalessi Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:20 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
ronalessi wrote:I know it's a lot of trouble, but I wonder how much more accurate it would be if pts were deducted in relation to "no. of shots taken."
How would the point deduction work? I think that's a relevant stat but not necessarily what this thread aims to tackle, which is how often a player makes a contribution to the goal-count, regardless of how many shots it takes them. In my opinion, it's just as bad to take a million as it is to only take a shot when it is clear you're going to make it.

I guess I confused Most Efficient player with Most Effective player for a second there.
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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:49 am

cory trevor wrote:
McAgger wrote:
cory trevor wrote:I'd shudder to think what Liverpool would look like without Suarez. They are a solid squad but they are clearly making a push this year.  Good on 'em. Keep him there if they make top 4.

Under Rodgers (18 months), Liverpool without Suarez: Played 16

12 wins, 2 draws, 2 losses


We're not a one man team. :coffee:

You're right, I also put stock into that convincing 2-0 win away to mighty Indonesia XI.

Let's get down to brass tacks,  without Suarez right now Liverpool isn't sitting in a CL spot.

Well I obviously didn't count the meaningless preseason games

And in reality Sturridge can lead the line of attack by himself just as good. The only way I can see us struggling would be if we were without both of them since we have no one else that comes even remotely close to being good up top. And we have proven we can get results with either of those guys.

But obviously we have a higher chance of doing damage with one of the best players playing for us and who wouldn't. But again we aren't a one man team.
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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:56 am

Btw welcome to the forum mate Proud we always love our new members
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:17 am

Can some German-speaking user tell me what 'Länderspiele' means? I'm not including it in the calculations but maybe I should be.
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Post by RealGunner Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:18 am

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Post by futbol Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:36 am

BC, don't listen to the fake German RG. He's lying.

Länderspiel means "national team cap". :coffee:

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Post by McAgger Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:49 am

I believe that's what he said
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Post by rwo power Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:22 am

"Länderspiele" are all international matches, both friendlies and competitive matches. You could literally translate it as "matches/games between countries".
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Post by futbol Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:13 am

McAgger wrote:I believe that's what he said

He said "cap". Xavi has 700 caps for Barcelona now. You don't say Xavi has played 700 "Länderspiele". Länderspiel only applies to games with your national team.

"Land" = country.
"Spiele" = games.


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Post by El Chelsea Fuerte Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:27 am

Only goals and assists are being measured?

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Post by RealGunner Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:37 am

futbol wrote:
McAgger wrote:I believe that's what he said

He said "cap". Xavi has 700 caps for Barcelona now. You don't say Xavi has played 700 "Länderspiele". Länderspiel only applies to games with your national team.

"Land" = country.
"Spiele" = games.


You might get into my to-stab list soon at this rate
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:35 pm

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Post by rwo power Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:49 pm

What about Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang? Or is he just outside the list? (I have atm no time to calculate this) http://www.transfermarkt.de/de/pierre-emerick-aubameyang/profil/spieler_58864.html
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:51 pm

He was dropped from the top 30 spots at 0.89
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Post by rwo power Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:57 pm

Ah, I see. Thx Smile
Great job with the list, btw!
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Post by the xcx Tue Feb 04, 2014 4:16 pm

Benzema is not on the list  rofl rofl 
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Post by Khaled Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:15 pm

what about Firmino (Hoffenheim), he has 13 goals and 11+ assists.
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:56 pm

the xcx wrote:Benzema is not on the list  rofl rofl 

Remember dude, its not benzemas fault! He's a false 10 center second supporting false 9 striker who needs the team to help him!
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Feb 05, 2014 12:13 am

Khaled wrote:what about Firmino (Hoffenheim), he has 13 goals and 11+ assists.
Will add him for the next update.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Tue Feb 18, 2014 12:56 am

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Benzema back in the list. Firmino the GOATest player I've never heard of.
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