Re: The unpopular opinion thread

by jibers Tue 12 Jan 2016 - 16:55

BarcaLearning wrote:Probably unpopular as in with fellow Barca fans

But overall, following on from some of the above comments, career wise, CRonaldo is the second best player of all time, we need to admit that. If there is no Messi, than CRonaldo is no.1.

I also think the real Ronaldo though R9 was individually the best player, his passing and play making is probably no where near Messi and not even as good as CRonaldo's, but boy some of his technique, and his physique back then was so unreal compared with everyone else back then, he really made u feel at times he was not human.

A few more I have probably like Pogba, Verratti, Ibra to name a few are overrated, obviously if they continue to improve since they are young, but if not, then I feel they are overrated. Ibra is bit of a big game flop for me, recent examples are many games vs Braca and Real where he is supposed to be PSG's best player, but just disappointed completely.

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by Art Morte Tue 12 Jan 2016 - 17:16

Is there a Ronaldo v Christiano Ronaldo debate in the Right-back section? If not, there should be.

by M99 Tue 12 Jan 2016 - 17:45

BarcaLearning wrote:Probably unpopular as in with fellow Barca fans

But overall, following on from some of the above comments, career wise, CRonaldo is the second best player of all time, we need to admit that. If there is no Messi, than CRonaldo is no.1.

I also think the real Ronaldo though R9 was individually the best player, his passing and play making is probably no where near Messi and not even as good as CRonaldo's, but boy some of his technique, and his physique back then was so unreal compared with everyone else back then, he really made u feel at times he was not human.

A few more I have probably like Pogba, Verratti, Ibra to name a few are overrated, obviously if they continue to improve since they are young, but if not, then I feel they are overrated. Ibra is bit of a big game flop for me, recent examples are many games vs Braca and Real where he is supposed to be PSG's best player, but just disappointed completely.

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by Turok_TTZ Tue 12 Jan 2016 - 18:23

Mehssi ain't the goat and the fact that CR7 is even mentioned in this sort of discussion absolutely disgusts me.

Goats also have international performances and TITLES to show for it! not just club level.
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Zidane and/or Ronaldinho are imo the goats

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Tue 12 Jan 2016 - 21:37

There should be video replays for red cards and penalties.

by M99 Tue 12 Jan 2016 - 21:54

From page 1.

JuvenelCuore wrote:
ronaldo__9 wrote:Iniesta>Xavi

Messi is not only better than CR, but by a considerable margin, imho.

Messi thing is not unpopular. Haha.

Juventus are the best club in the world.
Amauri is a top three striker who puts Villa and Torres to shame.
Marco Motta is the best RB in the world.
Contrary to popular belief, Mourinho is not a top five coach...not historically nor presently.

by Lord Spencer Wed 13 Jan 2016 - 1:30

That's JC for you.

Now excuse me while I laugh hysterically for the rest of the day.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed 13 Jan 2016 - 1:45

You know this thread is old because it documents Tom's graceful evolution from sincere poster who debated normal topics to GL's version of Trevor from GTA.

by BarcaLearning Wed 13 Jan 2016 - 6:27

Well I was talking more on club career, if u add in international, then I couldnt know, too many greats in the past eras before I was born Razz

R9's international obviously better than CRonaldo, but club career not.

by M99 Wed 13 Jan 2016 - 8:40

Speaking of evolution

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Iniesta is better than Xavi, CR7 IS A POOR MANS RVN WITH PACE............

GET INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NO REPERCUSSIONS

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:LOL @ the haters negging me already ok then.......

Modric is better than Alonso

Pepe is better than Thiago Silva

Mikel and Essien are both average

Fabregas is a big match flop, Wilshere is better

Eto'o is the best CF since R9

Ozil is better than Sneijder
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
St_Nick09_of_Goal wrote:
Immaculate_Mole wrote:LOL @ the haters negging me already ok then.......

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cesc has no heart, he wont progress much

xavi is actually quite good

iniesta is a bit overrated, without xavi and messi, he would be like cazorla

sahin is better than alonso

Zidane is overrated without the 98 WC he would'nt even be considered the best player with Algerian heritage...... Ben Arfa and Benzema are both superior talent wise

Busquets has surpassed Redondo

Casillas is'nt even the best ever spainish gk Khan and Buffon have more talent in thier pinky fingers then he has in his whole body

Batistuta was better than Hugo Sanchez and R9 combined

Villas Boas is better tactically than Mourinho and will prove as such in the coming years

by Cruijf Wed 13 Jan 2016 - 14:09

Turok_TTZ wrote:Mehssi ain't the goat and the fact that CR7 is even mentioned in this sort of discussion absolutely disgusts me.

Goats also have international performances and TITLES to show for it! not just club level.
And to anyone else who disagrees:

Zidane and/or Ronaldinho are imo the goats

So Messi and Ronaldo are scrubs, its Zidane and Ronnie who are the goats? Pls go Laughing

by Kaladin Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 19:26

Conte is a mediocre coach

by RealGunner Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 19:35

I got attacked by Juve fans when I said that.

Apparently he played great football at Juve rofl

by Kaladin Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 19:38

That farce of a scudetto win was more us f*cking up (or Allegri if you want) than a masterstroke from Conte, nevermind MuntariGate

by rincon Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 19:42

RealGunner wrote:I got attacked by Juve fans when I said that.

Apparently he played great football at Juve

Because its simply wrong.

by Luca Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 19:59

ES wrote:That farce of a scudetto win was more us f*cking up (or Allegri if you want) than a masterstroke from Conte, nevermind MuntariGate

And the other 2 he won?
Conte's shortcomings were in the CL but he dominated Serie A in his time

Personally, I prefer Allegri but Conte is a good manager. I definitely wouldn't say he's mediocre (I'm not sure how anyone can to be honest)

by Kaladin Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:20

The other 2 wins are as big of an achievment as me beating my 6 yr old nephews on Smash

by sportsczy Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:25

Unpopular opinion: NT football has a lot more suspense and overall fan interest because every team is flawed (you have to make due with what your country produces only) and, thus, the games are unpredictable often. WC and Euro viewing audiences absolutely destroy the CL.

For example, the 2015 CL final had 180 million viewers worldwide. the 2014 WC final had 1.1 billion viewers. The 2016 Euro final was expected to reach at least 300 million viewers (final numbers haven't been released yet).

by Warrior Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:28

Mino Raiola is a gentleman and he represents what football is all about. I wish everyone had the same behaviour.

by RealGunner Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:31

I am sure United-Liverpool had over 700m viewers last year and the recent Manchester Derby had over 800m worldwide viewership.

by M99 Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:37

RealGunner wrote:I am sure United-Liverpool had over 700m viewers last year and the recent Manchester Derby had over 800m worldwide viewership.

Those number are not right at all Laughing

by Warrior Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:41

two major factors determine why international tournaments are more popular than Champions League

1. Champions League happens every year and the competition lasts for like 9 months, there is no "hype" until the quarter finals. World Cup is every 4 years so it's a big event and suddenly everyone becomes a football connoisseur/enthusiast.

2. Most CL matches are played in the evening on weekdays. Less people are reach this way... when the match begins, in the Americas most people are leaving work and in Asia many people are sleeping

by sportsczy Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:41

Sorry... the Euro and CL numbers were in Europe only. WC was worldwide.

CL final was 400 mil worldwide. Euro final is about the same.

You're right about Man U v Liverpool. Never looked into domestic league play Laughing

One thing to keep in mind... FIFA and UEFA disclose households (meaning TV sets). They don't extrapolate the average person per household to reach individual viewership. I get the sneaky sense that leagues extrapolates the number of people.

by RealGunner Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:42

M99 wrote:
RealGunner wrote:I am sure United-Liverpool had over 700m viewers last year and the recent Manchester Derby had over 800m worldwide viewership.

Those number are not right at all

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3004202/Manchester-United-vs-Liverpool-Real-Madrid-vs-Barcelona-biggest-fixture-world-football.html

by sportsczy Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:47

It kind of makes sense that teams that have a lot of international superstars get huge viewership when they play... because those superstars are from all over the world so a lot of people find personal interest in them.

For the WC and Euro though, the teams only have players from the one country obviously. So it's the event and the actual game that attracts people... not individual interest in players.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sat 8 Oct 2016 - 20:54

sportsczy wrote:Unpopular opinion: NT football has a lot more suspense and overall fan interest because every team is flawed (you have to make due with what your country produces only) and, thus, the games are unpredictable often. WC and Euro viewing audiences absolutely destroy the CL.

For example, the 2015 CL final had 180 million viewers worldwide. the 2014 WC final had 1.1 billion viewers. The 2016 Euro final was expected to reach at least 300 million viewers (final numbers haven't been released yet).

I'm sure that those tournaments happening over a very short period of time, during a time when most are on holidays and involving players that most will at least show an interest in have nothing to do with those numbers lol.

Although i personally don't care tbh, i hardly watched the Euros because the quality of football was absolutely trash.

Unpredictability isn't interesting to me unless it's entertaining as well which it very rarely is.

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