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Post by RealGunner Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:19 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Arsene Wenger is one of the greatest managers of all time. A truly unique personality. People dismiss him due to not having a great collection of trophies specially CL but as a manager he turned Arsenal from a nothing club into a relevant club.

Football will miss him when he retires, not just Arsenal.



While i agree with you in general, that is just plain wrong brah. Outside of Wenger you are still the most successful club in England outside of Liverpool and Man Yoo.


I know but most of our glory days were during the Herbert Chapman era in the 50s lol.

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Post by Myesyats Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:20 pm

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ES wrote:'They wouldn't touch Messi' lmao, sit down before you give me an aneurysm. 37 yr old Nesta disposed him at the nearest job centre, Bonera and Anotnini and co held him at bay at the San Siro ffs Laughing

If that fake red card wasn't given to Nesta at the Nou, things might've been very different


Nesta landed a great tackle on Messi but my word, people still celebrating 1 tackle? Laughing He gets tackled successfully every random game - like every footballer - but because it was Nesta who made the (admittedly very beautiful) tackle it's some sort of lifetime achievement? Pls. Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:27 pm

RealGunner wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
RealGunner wrote:Arsene Wenger is one of the greatest managers of all time. A truly unique personality. People dismiss him due to not having a great collection of trophies specially CL but as a manager he turned Arsenal from a nothing club into a relevant club.

Football will miss him when he retires, not just Arsenal.



While i agree with you in general, that is just plain wrong brah. Outside of Wenger you are still the most successful club in England outside of Liverpool and Man Yoo.


I know but most of our glory days were during the Herbert Chapman era in the 50s lol.


Won a double in the 70s tbf hmm although you were nothing special at the time Wenger took over that's true.
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Post by chad4401 Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:28 pm

rafa breaking up the master-servant relationship in rm attack, is the real reason why cr is declining all of sudden.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:07 pm

that just false lol, CR decline has been coming for a very long time.
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Post by S Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:07 pm

Bonaventura is an average player who is just going through a good period of form.

Heck even Borriello was good for Milan at one point in time.
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Post by Sri Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:11 pm

futbol wrote:Here's an unpopular opinion:

If supporters of a club want to change club allegiances it should be acceptable and not be mocked ("gloryhunter"). For example if someone fell in love with Milan mid 2000s when they were playing beautiful football with Maldini, Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, Pippo etc. why should they be forced to support the current shower of shit that came through years of mismanagement? If the current state of Milan has absolutely nothing to do with what people fell in love with years ago then it's fine to say goodbye. The self-inflicted law ("you support a club and not players", "you can change your wife but not your football club" etc.) is hilariously stupid. Players, coaches, presidents change clubs all the time and so should fans if they want.


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Post by Sri Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:16 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
RealGunner wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:


While i agree with you in general, that is just plain wrong brah. Outside of Wenger you are still the most successful club in England outside of Liverpool and Man Yoo.


I know but most of our glory days were during the Herbert Chapman era in the 50s lol.


Won a double in the 70s tbf hmm although you were nothing special at the time Wenger took over that's true.


George Graham era:

Arsenal
First Division (2): 1988–89, 1990–91
League Cup (2): 1986–87, 1992–93
FA Charity Shield (1): 1991 (shared)
FA Cup (1): 1992–93
UEFA Cup Winners' Cup (1): 1994
Runner-up:

League Cup (1): 1987–88
FA Charity Shield (2): 1989, 1993
UEFA Super Cup (1): 1994

hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:18 pm

I meant at that exact time Wenger took over lol.

We finished above you :coffee:
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Post by Harmonica Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:28 pm

ES wrote:'They wouldn't touch Messi' lmao, sit down before you give me an aneurysm. 37 yr old Nesta disposed him at the nearest job centre, Bonera and Anotnini and co held him at bay at the San Siro ffs Laughing

If that fake red card wasn't given to Nesta at the Nou, things might've been very different
No flaming?  hmm

Messi against Nesta with bunch of other defenders:

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The last freekick from Nesta foul.

3+3, involved 7 goals of 8, 2 yellows for Nesta in 4 games being the MoM in 3.

I like copy&paste.


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Post by Sri Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:28 pm

Was responding to RG hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:30 pm

Poor quoting then :coffee:
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Post by Hapless_Hans Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:32 pm

futbol wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Yeah Iniesta is great. He's just an unlikable twat. But great at the football.


Come again? Bruh, Iniesta is probably the most genuinely harmless person - not footballer, but person - on the planet. Like a human puppy. Seriously, wth bruh?!


I don't get it either.

Especially as this is how I feel about a number of Barca's GOAT players - Pique, Alves, Busquets - that they are incredible players yet real pricks and unlikeable twats.
Iniesta is both an incredible player and comes across as genuinely nice. Have never seen him do anything, have never even seen himget angry lol.. always fair, calm, modest, no antics, no nothing Laughing
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:37 pm

He used to dive quite a lot when he was younger, that's about all i can think of.
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Post by Lucifer Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:43 pm

He gets Standing ovation almost everywhere, even at Boooonabeau he got one this CLASICO.

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Post by chad4401 Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:49 pm

Mr Nick09 wrote:that just false lol, CR decline has been coming for a very long time.


i agree we all know what i think of him, what i meant by sudden decline, is that how majority of fans quickly realized it this season, as soon as rafa put a stop to the spoon feeding.

tbh i don't even believe he has declined that much either, he is just average and been average for quite some time.
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Post by M99 Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:26 pm

futbol wrote:Here's an unpopular opinion:

If supporters of a club want to change club allegiances it should be acceptable and not be mocked ("gloryhunter"). For example if someone fell in love with Milan mid 2000s when they were playing beautiful football with Maldini, Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, Pippo etc. why should they be forced to support the current shower of shit that came through years of mismanagement? If the current state of Milan has absolutely nothing to do with what people fell in love with years ago then it's fine to sa y goodbye. The self-inflicted law ("you support a club and not players", "you can change your wife but not your football club" etc.) is hilariously stupid. Players, coaches, presidents change clubs all the time and so should fans if they want.


Futbol with that insurance policy for the inevitable fall of when Messi and Dishmar get arrested for tax evasioon and Suarez is jailed for biting Perez.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:31 pm

futbol wrote:Here's an unpopular opinion:

If supporters of a club want to change club allegiances it should be acceptable and not be mocked ("gloryhunter"). For example if someone fell in love with Milan mid 2000s when they were playing beautiful football with Maldini, Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, Pippo etc. why should they be forced to support the current shower of shit that came through years of mismanagement? If the current state of Milan has absolutely nothing to do with what people fell in love with years ago then it's fine to say goodbye. The self-inflicted law ("you support a club and not players", "you can change your wife but not your football club" etc.) is hilariously stupid. Players, coaches, presidents change clubs all the time and so should fans if they want.


Of course you are a Barca fan, why wouldn't you think that way Laughing
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Post by Kaladin Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:31 pm

1 tackle lol, go back and watch the game. It wasn't just 1 tackle, people keep bringing that up because it gets masqueraded around youtube and twitter
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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:55 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
futbol wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Yeah Iniesta is great. He's just an unlikable twat. But great at the football.


Come again? Bruh, Iniesta is probably the most genuinely harmless person - not footballer, but person - on the planet. Like a human puppy. Seriously, wth bruh?!


I don't get it either.

Especially as this is how I feel about a number of Barca's GOAT players - Pique, Alves, Busquets - that they are incredible players yet real pricks and unlikeable twats.
Iniesta is both an incredible player and comes across as genuinely nice. Have never seen him do anything, have never even seen himget angry lol.. always fair, calm, modest, no antics, no nothing Laughing


Awww come on, Pique, Alves and Busquets aren't incredible players.

Iniesta, Xavi, and Puyol are/were.
And Puyol seems genuinely likable, and to be honest, I really like Messi as well, and not just because of how good he's at football. I just like that dwarf.

I might also have overstated my Iniesta dislike. I'm just not a fan. Do think he's a great player though. Strikes me as a bit of a crybaby. Then again I'm a Müller fan, so I shouldn't throw stones.
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Post by CBarca Sun Jan 10, 2016 11:40 pm

Busquets was certainly unlikeable like, 4 years ago.

Has he done anything bad since then? He's even cut out his playacting entirely for a couple years now. Anybody who has actually watched him and doesn't just judge him from his previous reputation would know this.

Alves and Pique, mostly fair. Iniesta is one of the most likeable players in football lmao, I can't understand you.

And finally yes all three are incredible. Alves one of the best of all time ar RB, busquets will retire as one of the best of all time at DM, and Pique has had more years being one of the best CB's in the world than not at this point. Don't let your dislike for Barca cloud your judgement of the players.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:46 am

VivaStPauli wrote:
Awww come on, Pique, Alves and Busquets aren't incredible players.


These guys have all been top 3 in their position at some point over the past 5 years, what are you talking about?
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Post by Turok_TTZ Mon Jan 11, 2016 6:10 am

Guardiola is a hipster and Luis Enrique > Pep the hipster.
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Post by free_cat Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:53 am

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
futbol wrote:Here's an unpopular opinion:

If supporters of a club want to change club allegiances it should be acceptable and not be mocked ("gloryhunter"). For example if someone fell in love with Milan mid 2000s when they were playing beautiful football with Maldini, Kaka, Pirlo, Seedorf, Pippo etc. why should they be forced to support the current shower of shit that came through years of mismanagement? If the current state of Milan has absolutely nothing to do with what people fell in love with years ago then it's fine to say goodbye. The self-inflicted law ("you support a club and not players", "you can change your wife but not your football club" etc.) is hilariously stupid. Players, coaches, presidents change clubs all the time and so should fans if they want.


Of course you are a Barca fan, why wouldn't you think that way Laughing



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Post by BarcaLearning Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:45 pm

Probably unpopular as in with fellow Barca fans Razz

But overall, following on from some of the above comments, career wise, CRonaldo is the second best player of all time, we need to admit that. If there is no Messi, than CRonaldo is no.1.

I also think the real Ronaldo though R9 was individually the best player, his passing and play making is probably no where near Messi and not even as good as CRonaldo's, but boy some of his technique, and his physique back then was so unreal compared with everyone else back then, he really made u feel at times he was not human.

A few more I have probably like Pogba, Verratti, Ibra to name a few are overrated, obviously if they continue to improve since they are young, but if not, then I feel they are overrated. Ibra is bit of a big game flop for me, recent examples are many games vs Braca and Real where he is supposed to be PSG's best player, but just disappointed completely.
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Post by jibers Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:55 pm

BarcaLearning wrote:Probably unpopular as in with fellow Barca fans Razz

But overall, following on from some of the above comments, career wise, CRonaldo is the second best player of all time, we need to admit that. If there is no Messi, than CRonaldo is no.1.

I also think the real Ronaldo though R9 was individually the best player, his passing and play making is probably no where near Messi and not even as good as CRonaldo's, but boy some of his technique, and his physique back then was so unreal compared with everyone else back then, he really made u feel at times he was not human.

A few more I have probably like Pogba, Verratti, Ibra to name a few are overrated, obviously if they continue to improve since they are young, but if not, then I feel they are overrated. Ibra is bit of a big game flop for me, recent examples are many games vs Braca and Real where he is supposed to be PSG's best player, but just disappointed completely.
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