Re: The unpopular opinion thread

by titosantill Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:13 am

@zizzle, i don't know if his comeback was all that. yeah he scored, but i remember him and vieri missing a bunch of chances against (i can't remember if it was lazio or lecce) to see juve steal that title. also even when he came back, nobody really saw him as a threat in the upcoming mundial...brazil weren't at all favorites, until the world cup started and him and rivaldo started wreaking havoc

i agree with @LeBéninois, i'm not a fan of individual awards, but if you must have them, hand them out just after the leagues cup or ucl tournaments have ended. that's crunch time in a season, not january. sometimes the attention span of fans and pundits becomes so short....you wait so long to give out an award then statistics, and hindsight theories take over, rather than what we witnessed in real time

by Turok_TTZ Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:09 am

Freeza wrote:Zidane is the best manager in the world at the moment.

Needs to prove himself and way too soon.

Hazard would make Madrid better if he replaced Ronaldo.

Fatzard?

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Sergio Ramos is a mediocre player who is defended by people looking at stats.

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by Freeza Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:17 am

The Zidane one is the only one where I'm not 100% serious.

Also can't see anything about Ramos' game that makes him anything special

by Turok_TTZ Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:22 am

Freeza wrote:The Zidane one is the only one where I'm not 100% serious.

Also can't see anything about Ramos' game that makes him anything special

Ramos has his moments but I do agree in that he is inconsistent defensively.

by McAgger Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:21 am

Ramos is a horrible defender.

by VivaStPauli Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:27 pm

Yeah I agree, Ramos is an awesome motivator, always in it with a 100% of his heart's blood.
But boy is he shit at defending, and frankly, every time I watch him in an important match, I'm baffled by how he isn't getting a red in the first 25 minutes, that's star power for you.

by RealGunner Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:45 pm

Ronaldo 9 is the best striker of the last 20 years for me. His prime was insane. Combination of pace, power, skill, technique and trickery. He was one of a kind

by Lucifer Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:03 pm

Here's my "unpopular" opinion
Irrespective of how much stick GL gives I think EPL is most loved league on this forum. It's just people don't want to accept it. Like everybody wants to screw a fat chick but no one wants to admit it in public.

by Adit Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:16 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Yeah I agree, Ramos is an awesome motivator, always in it with a 100% of his heart's blood.
But boy is he shit at defending, and frankly, every time I watch him in an important match, I'm baffled by how he isn't getting a red in the first 25 minutes, that's star power for you.

I don't know about that.. He was pretty good in world cup and the euros. He was pretty great against Bayern in both legs. He or no one is going to look good when the midfield above him is modric- kroos- James. That's 3 former 10s. When we had a much better xabi- modric-Di Maria as defensive presence he looked just fine. Mind you that midfield is still less defensive than all the midfields of entire Europe.

by Abramovich Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:31 pm

I'm of the opinion that Hiddink should get some kind of non fatal illness with no real after effects but has to retire from football management Laughing

by Valkyrja Sun Jan 10, 2016 1:56 pm

Iniesta is one of the most overrated players of our times

by VivaStPauli Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:12 pm

Adit wrote:
VivaStPauli wrote:Yeah I agree, Ramos is an awesome motivator, always in it with a 100% of his heart's blood.
But boy is he shit at defending, and frankly, every time I watch him in an important match, I'm baffled by how he isn't getting a red in the first 25 minutes, that's star power for you.
I don't know about that.. He was pretty good in world cup and the euros. He was pretty great against Bayern in both legs. He or no one is going to look good when the midfield above him is modric- kroos- James. That's 3 former 10s. When we had a much better xabi- modric-Di Maria as defensive presence he looked just fine. Mind you that midfield is still less defensive than all the midfields of entire Europe.

Especially at the WC and against Bayern recently, he should've been sent off. Those are the matches I had in mind when I said less famous players would've been sent off.

by Myesyats Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:13 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Iniesta is one of the most overrated players of our times

This opinion is unpopular because it's simply plain wrong.

by VivaStPauli Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:22 pm

Yeah Iniesta is great. He's just an unlikable twat. But great at the football.

by Valkyrja Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:27 pm

VivaStPauli wrote:Yeah Iniesta is great. He's just an unlikable twat. But great at the football.

He's likeable. It's Xavi the unlikeable all time great.

by Kaladin Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:40 pm

Speaking of unlikeable twats, there's always collective fapfest over Muller. I admit i like his skillset, as he reminds me of a certain player we had a long time ago and appreciate what he does for the team. But my, does he come off as a douche on/off the pitch.

by VivaStPauli Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:43 pm

I understand that sentiment, but he's so f*cking entertaining off the pitch that, as a German speaker, it's hard to dislike the guy.
He is a huge wuss on the pitch though.

by RealGunner Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:44 pm

Speaking of which. Neuer is one of the most dislikeable footballers out there. He acts like an absolute twat most of the time. He has that 'RVP/Pique' face which you would love to punch

by Robespierre Sun Jan 10, 2016 2:48 pm

tbh I don't know if even it's unpopular don't rate Sergio Ramos. By now it's always more difficult to find anyone (even RM fans s) to do it.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:00 pm

Robespierre wrote:tbh I don't know if even it's unpopular don't rate Sergio Ramos. By now it's always more difficult to find anyone (even RM fans s) to do it.

Dunno Robes, on here maybe but it doesn't long to find someone who rates him Laughing

In general he's very highly rated as his constant appearance in team of the year awards shows.

by RealGunner Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:02 pm

He isn't a bad defender or a player. He has 5 bad matches out of 20 which goes for most CBs.

Maybe he would have been less hyped when the likes of Nesta, Maldini etc were in their prime and Ramos was also in that era

But for this era he has been one of the top CBs. Maybe not top 5 but at least top 100

by Freeza Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:09 pm

RealGunner wrote:He isn't a bad defender or a player. He has 5 bad matches out of 20 which goes for most CBs.

Maybe he would have been less hyped when the likes of Nesta, Maldini etc were in their prime and Ramos was also in that era

But for this era he has been one of the top CBs. Maybe not top 5 but at least top 100

I hereby present exhibit A showing how overrated Ramos is to some people.

by Kaladin Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:13 pm

RealGunner wrote:He isn't a bad defender or a player. He has 5 bad matches out of 20 which goes for most CBs.

Maybe he would have been less hyped when the likes of Nesta, Maldini etc were in their prime and Ramos was also in that era

But for this era he has been one of the top CBs. Maybe not top 5 but at least top 100

I think it says a lot more about the current state of defenders imo

by M99 Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:17 pm

He has more than 5 bad matches out of 20. Every time I see Madrid concede, 80% of the time Ramos did something wrong.

by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:24 pm

ES wrote:
RealGunner wrote:He isn't a bad defender or a player. He has 5 bad matches out of 20 which goes for most CBs.

Maybe he would have been less hyped when the likes of Nesta, Maldini etc were in their prime and Ramos was also in that era

But for this era he has been one of the top CBs. Maybe not top 5 but at least top 100

I think it says a lot more about the current state of defenders imo

It's more due to the current state of organisation and tactics.

Maldini wouldn't be half the defender today, well he would but it wouldn't seem like that because he would constantly be isolated.

by Bankz Sun Jan 10, 2016 3:29 pm

Imagine a prime maldini vs a prime messi

I remember prime maldini, canavaro and especially a prime nesta scrambling to catch R9's boots.. Laughing

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