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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:31 pm

and btw whats with this benzemas asissts more, Higuain has one less asisst than him in the league and alot more goals despite playing less mins...... so what more does Benzema offer again???

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:35 pm

vivabarca38 wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:why do we need the record anyways???? Higuains goals have come when we needed him, Benzema has never been there when we need him bar Barca
:lol!: :facepalm:

Have you ever watched us???
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Post by animal.crackers Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:36 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:and btw whats with this benzemas asissts more, Higuain has one less asisst than him in the league and alot more goals despite playing less mins...... so what more does Benzema offer again???
Higuain scores so much because:
1. The game is already dead.

2. He comes on as a fresh substitute.

3. The opponents are already chasing the game and there is more space to exploit. (also sometimes the reason why Madrid have those big wins).

But that's not taking anything away from Higuain...he has scored important goals.

Benzema is infinitely more well rounded a striker, though.


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Post by Zealous Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:36 pm

vivabarca38 wrote:You could say the same things about Benz's goals.107-18=89 so they wouldn't have reached the record without benz's goals aswell.Also Benz sets up much more goals than Higuain so he contributes much more to the team.

You really should look at the numbers before you make up your own Neutral
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Post by Zealous Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:37 pm

animal.crackers wrote:
halamadrid2 wrote:and btw whats with this benzemas asissts more, Higuain has one less asisst than him in the league and alot more goals despite playing less mins...... so what more does Benzema offer again???
Higuain scores so much because:
1. The game is already dead.

2. He comes on as a fresh substitute.

3. The opponents are already chasing the game and there is more space to exploit. (also sometimes the reason why Madrid have those big wins).

1. Since Benzema has got here Higuain has won us more points directly related to his goals.

2. That's not how it works lol

3. Sometimes the opponents aren't chasing the game lol
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Post by animal.crackers Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:41 pm

Never said it was always the case.

And yes, when you come on as a sub, it does make a massive difference when you are playing against players who just ran 8 km and their thighs are burning but yours are fresh.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:42 pm

animal.crackers wrote:Higuain scores so much because:
1. The game is already dead.

2. He comes on as a fresh substitute.

3. The opponents are already chasing the game and there is more space to exploit. (also sometimes the reason why Madrid have those big wins).

But that's not taking anything away from Higuain...he has scored important goals.

Benzema is infinitely more well rounded a striker, though.

1) Higuains goal have come at times we have needed goals
2) he has scored most(98%) of his goals when he starts
3) he has scored when teams have parked the bus, and helped us win countless of games we are destined to lose, not only this season but last season as well and the one with Pelle

with all due respect to Benz, other than scoring against Barca he hasnt really helped us win any tough game this season
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Post by animal.crackers Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:44 pm

I find Benzema to be so much better at contributing to the build up that I believe Madrid benefit just by virtue of him playing well.

Benzema doesn't always score, but I have OFTEN seen him start the goal scoring move.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:46 pm

contribute what??? Higuain tops any possible stat you'd try to look at, over benzema

With Benzema there we have hardship breaking up parked the bus teams, and has been a starter in all the points we have lost this season...ALL

Thats BS, Benzema doesnt start it, its always DiMaria, Ronaldo, Marcelo, Alonso and Ozil who start our goal scoring moves

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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:49 pm

maybe it's an indication that you should stop reading whoscored.com to get your fix? stats and numbers of goals arent the only think that matter. Can you put stats on the way Benzema facilitated that scoring move against Bayern? no, that's just performing at the highest level.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:55 pm

Benzema didnt facilitate anything in the move other than an accidental shot which we were lucky that Ronaldo saved before it went out for a goal kick

That goal started with DiMaria's pass to Benzema and then a pass anyone couldve made to Ronaldo, Ozil passes the ball to DiMaria but it accidentally lands to Benz who tries a poor shot

He also had a 1v1 which he completely fluffed, Higuain with that ball and it wouldve been in
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:01 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Benzema didnt facilitate anything in the move other than an accidental shot which we were lucky that Ronaldo saved before it went out for a goal kick

That goal started with DiMaria's pass to Benzema and then a pass anyone couldve made to Ronaldo, Ozil passes the ball to DiMaria but it accidentally lands to Benz who tries a poor shot

He also had a 1v1 which he completely fluffed, Higuain with that ball and it wouldve been in

lmao if that was Higuain, you would be raving about his ability to also make pin point assists, and then you would have talked about his madridista heart staying focused and crossing the ball beautifully to the second post, because he crossed, he didnt shot.

1v1 when you have 20 more yards to the goal and a defender on your side, is not a 1v1 lmao. Higuain had that chance against Moscow and he fluffed it.

Let's stop acting like Higuain is somekind of hidden gem we are benching for an incapable forward that cant do anything productive. like i said, it's cool to have your preference, but stop trying to shoot down the other player because you want Higuain to start.
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Post by Zealous Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:12 pm

You're the one who said we should sell him lol
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Post by Mr Nick09 Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:22 pm

because he deserves to be the starter of his own team, not because he is a bad player. He is a top 3 pure #9, that's not a crazy statement to make is it?
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Post by Zealous Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:29 pm

Well it's his decision in the end. If you were to ask me I hope he'd stay till retirement although that's unlikely lol
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