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Post by free_cat Sat Sep 21, 2013 5:02 am

Same players as Ajax except Busquets who we rotate.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Sat Sep 21, 2013 8:36 am

I think Busquets picked up a knock free.

Sport is saying that it will be

Valdes
Alves - Pique - Masche - Adriano
Xavi - Song - Cesc
Pedro - Messi - Nerman

So Iniesta and Alexis getting rotated.

Shouldn't it be time for Montoya to get some time?
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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:57 am

Also what if now Picque or mashcherano gets a knock. Why not we giving Bartra some minutes does not make sense to me....probably barca's policy about playing a defender is as diffciult to predict as buying it....

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Post by Harmonica Sat Sep 21, 2013 11:02 am

Barcelona line-up (official): Valdes - Montoya Pique Mascherano Adriano - Xavi Song Cesc - Pedro Messi Neymar #fcblive
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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:35 pm

pedro's finishing is back :bow: 

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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:36 pm

adriano's stupid jump :facepalm: 
he has no defending sense....playing a kid style
i wish he get benched as a punishment


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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:36 pm

valdez :bow: :bow: :bow: 

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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:44 pm

I dont like this style of play. It makes no sense. Valdes and the defence so quick to go long..thats how we ended up conceding the penalty. In fact I already counted 3 chances they made simply because we went for the long ball.

We spend WAY too much time without the ball, it makes no sense.

I get the idea if we are struggling for a breakthrough, but this is way to quick.

Honestly, this adjustment makes no sense to me. So much time without the ball against inferiors.
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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:49 pm

Valdes btw having the form of his life, its good to see, even if he is leaving, its good if it can end on a high.

Adriano needs to be subbed before he gets send off. He went for the ball in the pen, but in this league, common sense dont apply so thats always a pen.

Song is doing alright, Messi and Neymar are trying and Pedro came to life when he made that finish and almost a second after it.

But I barely blame any of the players here, I am in pretty much complete disagreement with the idea we are playing with today. Spending this much time without the ball, our fake defence isnt going to last the 90 without letting in a goal, Valdes cant save us forever.
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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:52 pm

yeah, we are playing quite unnatural. never have been so much out of possession. Wondering what is our possession in first half. Thing is, every deflected ball has gone to their feet, don know whether thats luck or our inability.pique gave the ball to opponents trying to playing over the head. had their been a decent team could easily score in that last chance (4 vs 3 of us)
there need some tactical change in half time.....
also neymar looks isolated......and cant find Xavi....

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Post by Harmonica Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:52 pm

Valdes with flawless first half, Messi with some insane dribbling. :bow: 

Pedro with good finnish, everyone else needs to up their game.

Great example of refereeing biasness in Spain on show.

Rayo player climbs -> no foul and after that Adriano climbs -> penalty, obvious click against Pedro in penalty area -> no penalty.

Rayo 10 fouls -> 1 yellow.
Barca 3 fouls -> 1 yellow.

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Post by eelir Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:52 pm

I do not like this Barca. Rayo are struggling. I know they have extra motivation against Barca, but if there were different kit on barca players I would never know Barca is playing. SO different and looks bad, and they should feel bad.
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Post by Ganso Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:54 pm

ive never seen barca play this bad Shocked 
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Post by Casciavit Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:56 pm

Rayo 53 % possession, Barca 47% possession

^ 1st half

I'm watching Barca for the first time this season and oh my, how things have changed.

This Barca aren't dominating with the ball nor are they looking to dominate the opponent and make them sit back. Instead they're letting Rayo come at them and attack them, once Barca win the ball they hoof it too either Nerman or Pedro. There was rarely any build up play ffs.

And Messi's role seems interesting tbh, he's pressing and going back to defend ,but he's playing more as #10 rather than as a false 9. He isn't making many off the ball runs and he's playing on the right side of the pitch a lot more.

Is this the Barca that has played this season? Or is this just an off game?


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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:56 pm

ohh..forgot about the penalty we deserved......and that kick on messi...:facepalm: nowadays too many palyers watching some famous madrid players video..

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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:56 pm

TBH not many of Rayo's fouls have been yellow worthy. The only way they would get a yellow is persistent fouling, which I dont think any singular player of theirs has really done. Its different players committing small offences.

That looked a pen on Pedro, but it was a very small touch. I dont know if the ref saw that or not, he was probably relying on the linesman at that point, who I believe did nothing.

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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:59 pm

Casciavit wrote:Rayo 53 % possession, Barca 47% possession

^ 1st half

I'm watching Barca for the first time this season and oh my, how things have changed.

This Barca aren't dominating with the ball nor are they looking to dominate the opponent and make them sit back. Instead they're letting Rayo come at them and attack them, once Barca win the ball they hoof it too either Nerman or Alexis. There was rarely any build up play ffs.

And Messi's role seems interesting tbh, he's pressing and going back to defend ,but he's playing more as #10 rather than as a false 9. He isn't making many off the ball runs and he's playing on the right side of the pitch a lot more.

Is this the Barca that has played this season? Or is this just an off game?
Alexis aint playing, its Pedro but yes I agree.

No, this has not been the Barca of this season. The first games were not like this. But Ajax on Wednesday and now today make it two in a row, so no, its not just an off game either.

I think its simply adjustments in our style the coach has input, but the players are struggling big time to find the right balance between directness and possession.


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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:59 pm

The Franchise wrote:TBH not many of Rayo's fouls have been yellow worthy. The only way they would get a yellow is persistent fouling, which I dont think any singular player of theirs has really done. Its different players committing small offences.

That looked a pen on Pedro, but it was a very small touch. I dont know if the ref saw that or not, he was probably relying on the linesman at that point, who I believe did nothing.

i know but still thats a penalty right???

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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:00 pm

Yes, I thought it was a penalty for sure. But I think the ref could not see the small touch and was relying on the linesman help, who gave him nothing, so his only option was to assume it wasnt a foul.
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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:04 pm

2-0 Pedro

Cesc and Xavi with some high pressing and a quick transition into a goal.

Why dont we just press high all the time ffs?
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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:04 pm

pedro :bow: :bow: :bow: 
first knew cesc playing

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Post by neuro11 Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:06 pm

i wish neymar tried that himself....

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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:16 pm

Montoya's dangerous passes are driving me mad.
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Post by eelir Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:26 pm

We are still not able to keep possession. Really shitty game. The only good thing is we are playing scrubs, so we are winning, otherwise, disappointing Sad
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Post by The Franchise Sat Sep 21, 2013 1:27 pm

Im not being funny, but are La Liga refs racist or something?

Song is getting the Yaya/Keita treatement.

Bigger/stronger/blacker = foul
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