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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:28 pm

World Soccer Magazine, Greatest XI of all time 33z8pk6

Yashin Cafu BobbyMoore Beckenbauer Maldini DiStefano Zidane Maradona Cruyff
Messi Pele

4-4-2

http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/the-greatest-xi-how-the-panel-voted

What do you think?


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Post by futbol Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:30 pm

I think there is a lack of defensive midfielders there.

And Zidane seems to be the Arbeloa of "all time great" lists. Always gets a mention yet no one knows why.

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Post by jibers Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:33 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Yashin
Cafu Maldini BobbyMoore Beckenbauer
DiStefano Zidane Maradona Cruyff
Messi Pele

http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/the-greatest-xi-how-the-panel-voted

What do you think?

Beckenbauer never played as a CB. He played as a sweeper which was used completely differently to any position today. He was basically a reverse Regista. S Him at CB or lb in that formation is farcical tbh. Zidane and Maradona as CM? HAHAHA. Good luck with yur defending goals of 2013. Messi and Pele together? Pele wasn't a #9 and was more of a SS. Bobby Moore is not thee best CB of all time. That English Bias. Neither is Maldini :facepalm:

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Post by jibers Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:36 pm

futbol wrote:I think there is a lack of defensive midfielders there.

And Zidane seems to be the Arbeloa of "all time great" lists. Always gets a mention yet no one knows why.

Agreed. I would put Xavi in CM ahead of Zidane anyday tbh.

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Post by RealGunner Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:40 pm

Read the actual article.

Over 70 journalists from all over the world were asked to name their best ever 11. The overall 11 was made from the names appearing the most.

It's not meant to be functional. Nor there is any bias.

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Post by futbol Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:41 pm

Something more balanced:


Messi
Cruyff Platini Maradona
Matthäus Rijkaard
Maldini Nesta Scirea Cafu
Buffoon

Old school Serie A + Cruyff and Messi. :wub:

RealGunner wrote:Read the actual article.

Hipster. U got too much time or what? :coffee:

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Post by RealGunner Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:43 pm

Nah was just interested why they named a SS and a CAM as their CMs Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:46 pm

Yeah there is actually no exact formation stated, only that it's 4-4-2
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:48 pm

People continue to revere Lev Yashin :lol:Despite:

-Spending his whole career in the Soviet League
-Garnering praise for 78 Soviet apperances
-Half of his matches being played with a slow, leathery ball soaked with water to have it even slower with the addition of more mud to slow it down
-Modern Goalkeepers having to face far more circumstances

And then there is Bobby Moore.

Votes/Lists like these are usually made by Americans or English, but mostly Americans.  

Oh yea, and the thread was made to highlight that Messi is in the list.

And 4-4-2...LOL.
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:51 pm

Arquitescu wrote:People continue to revere Lev Yashin :lol:Despite:

-Spending his whole career in the Soviet League
-Garnering praise for 78 Soviet apperances
-Half of his matches being played with a slow, leathery ball soaked with water to have it even slower with the addition of more mud to slow it down
-Modern Goalkeepers having to face far more circumstances

And then there is Bobby Moore.

Votes/Lists like these are usually made by Americans or English, but mostly Americans.  

Oh yea, and the thread was made to highlight that Messi is in the list.

And 4-4-2...LOL.
  
Voted by Journalists from all over the world. 60+ different countries
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Post by Arquitecto Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:52 pm

& These are part of some of the journalists voting:

Sean Creedon, World Soccer, Rep Ireland

Team: Jennings, McGrain, Moore, McGrath, Maldini, Maradona, Keane, Cruyff, Messi, Pele, Best

Manager: Zagallo, Ferguson, Beckenbauer, Michels, J Charlton

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:55 pm

Meh these things are always poorly constructed and they never get them right.

I can't really force myself to care at all if i'm honest, i'll leave the rest of you to debate it all.
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Post by jibers Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:58 pm

Buffon is the best GK I have ever seen in my life.

These lists are always farcical.
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Post by Harmonica Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:06 pm

jibers wrote:Buffon is the best GK I have ever seen in my life.

These lists are always farcical.
How much did you see Yashin? Smile 
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Post by DuringTheWar Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:07 pm

I am not someone that denies zidanes greatness but i dont think he should be there.

Moore is fine, no bias. Complete defender, reading of the game, one on one play, leader, classy, ultra cultured on the ball, world cup winner,  

Messi has not earned a place, done nothing in his career so far to get in this. 3 champions league titles, firstly were he didnt feature in the final, the latter 2 were run by his teammates. Has to win a champions league or world cup without being led there by the hands. Since barca declined to being only the second best team in the world the last 2 years hes been nothing but flop in the champions league. 2014 is make or break

im just joking #shitstormaverted

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Post by VanDeezNuts Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:03 am

who cares really. this type of XI comes up once every 3 months and no one can ever agree on anything when it comes to the best of all time.

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Post by Harmonica Thu Jul 04, 2013 12:13 am

vanDEEZ wrote:who cares really. this type of XI comes up once every 3 months and no one can ever agree on anything when it comes to the best of all time.
Well the magazine that made the vote is pretty respectable and has operated from -60. Votes like these don't come every 3 months, and the reason for it isn't to agree unanimously what's the greatest lineup, but to collectively determine what it is.
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Post by windkick Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:13 am

Harmonica wrote:Yashin Cafu BobbyMoore Beckenbauer Maldini DiStefano Zidane Maradona Cruyff
Messi Pele

4-4-2

http://www.worldsoccer.com/features/the-greatest-xi-how-the-panel-voted

What do you think?

Would be a boring counter attacking team because they also voted Mourinho has the first choice manager Smile
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Post by RealGunner Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:22 am

To make the thread interesting. ( we probably have done this a lot of times )

What would be your ( all of you) greatest 11 of all time ( The players you have WATCHED)

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Post by Tomwin Lannister Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:24 am

Personally I think it's pointless comparing people from such different time periods.

Different rules, different ball, different tactics, different opposition etc etc.
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Post by Lupi Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:28 am

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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:29 am

I think a more efficient way to hold this poll would be to do a poll per position. That way a DM would have to make the list and players that did not play certain positions would not get picked for them rather than just a random assortment of great AMs as wingers, 9s, etc.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:31 am

Diego Armando Maradona wrote:Messi has not earned a place, done nothing in his career so far to get in this. 3 champions league titles, firstly were he didnt feature in the final, the latter 2 were run by his teammates. Has to win a champions league or world cup without being led there by the hands. Since barca declined to being only the second best team in the world the last 2 years hes been nothing but flop in the champions league. 2014 is make or break

Agreed, the one year that he had to carry Barca rather than the other way around he got battered by Bayern 7-0.
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Post by jibers Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:40 am

Epoto wrote:
Totti
Totti-Totti-Totti-Totti
Totti-Totti-Totti
Totti-Batistuta-Totti

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Post by Lupi Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:44 am

I have Argentina's top goal scorer in my team
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