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Post by sportsczy Sun May 19, 2013 8:43 pm

He's announced that he wants to leave PSG today... so it's as good as done. PSG is just buying time to find a new coach. Here are the options:
- Rafa Benitez (confirmed contact)
- Capello (contact confirmed)
- Spalletti
- Mancini
- Blanc
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Post by iftikhar Sun May 19, 2013 9:19 pm

First three are pretty good options.
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Post by Kick Mon May 20, 2013 10:32 am

I could see Rafa or Mancini getting the job.
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Post by sportsczy Mon May 20, 2013 3:34 pm

http://www.lemonde.fr/sport/article/2013/05/19/ligue-1-carlo-ancelotti-donne-partant-du-psg_3358591_3242.html

Naser AL-Khelaifi: "I don't think Madrid is going to dare to have Carlo sign a contract. If they do it, they will face legal issues. For anyone who wants to break a contract, there are legal methods and negotiations that must occur for it to go possibly well. It's not going to be easy for him (Carlo). It will cost us what it's going to cost us."

Regarding whether there was friction in December: "We asked him explanation regarding the level of play of the team in general. It's our right to do so. He cannot use that as justification for leaving the club. In the contrary, it was constructive criticism."

Oh boy lol
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Post by Ganso Mon May 20, 2013 3:44 pm

My say is that Carlo isnt leaving now...But i really want him to, PSG played the worst and most dull football from top teams this season.It was a pain to watch them.I think any coach would be a upgrade in terms of playing style
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Post by sportsczy Mon May 20, 2013 4:15 pm

They want Wenger next summer Ganso... i get the sense that Wenger has told them he would come so they are looking for 1 year options to make up the gap.

If not Wenger, i also think that PSG will not allow Carlo to leave unless they have a replacement. Maybe even Mazzarri. The won't allow themselves to be caught with their pants down.

Best case for everyone is that Rafa Benitez, Capello or Mancini accepts the position in short order. This may drag on until early June though.
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Post by sportsczy Tue May 21, 2013 12:55 pm

http://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Actualites/Benitez-contacte-par-paris/372596

PSG have officially approached Rafa Benitez and have made him an offer. Napoli tried to get him to commit yday... but Benitez held off knowing that an offer from PSG was coming.

Now he needs to decide. Not a hard decision imo since Napoli are about to lose Cavani too.

I think this is all about to fall into place for PSG and Madrid soon.
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Post by sportsczy Thu May 23, 2013 4:14 pm

OK. So Leonardo's hearing is May 30th to see if he gets suspended and PSG is going to wait until they know his status to make a decision. Also, Le Parisien reported today that Laurent Blanc met with PSG. So there are 3 options out there:

1- Leonardo gets little to no suspension. He manages next year and Wenger comes next summer.
2- Rafa Benitez
3- Laurent Blanc

I think option 1 is the preferred one. We'll know on June 1.
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Post by Casciavit Thu May 23, 2013 7:10 pm

Leonardo might become PSG's next coach if Carlo leaves, sports?

If so....

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Post by sportsczy Thu May 23, 2013 7:37 pm

depends if he gets the 6 month suspension.... if he gets that, it won't be Leo.
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 24, 2013 9:53 am

According to L'Equipe, Rafa Benitez and PSG distancing themselves from each other... PSG don't like Rafa's man management skills. It looks more and more like Leonardo for a year.

Anyone know what style he uses? Didn't really watch Milan teams under him.
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 24, 2013 6:10 pm

Pierre Menes, the journalist who is very close with Laurent Blanc, tweeted that there has been no discussions between Blanc and PSG fwiw....
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Post by iftikhar Sun May 26, 2013 4:08 pm

sportsczy wrote:According to L'Equipe, Rafa Benitez and PSG distancing themselves from each other... PSG don't like Rafa's man management skills. It looks more and more like Leonardo for a year.

Anyone know what style he uses? Didn't really watch Milan teams under him.

Milan didn't do great under Leo, right! Think he was sacked.
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Post by Casciavit Mon May 27, 2013 8:02 pm

sportsczy wrote:According to L'Equipe, Rafa Benitez and PSG distancing themselves from each other... PSG don't like Rafa's man management skills. It looks more and more like Leonardo for a year.

Anyone know what style he uses? Didn't really watch Milan teams under him.

Well he originally started off with a 4-3-1-2. But he then realized it didn't work. Lost 4-0 to Inter, being one of the main reasons for the change. He then changed it to a 4-2-1-3/4-2-4 against Roma in the 2nd half and we won the game. Used it against R.Madrid we won 3-2, than he started using it for the rest of the season.
Usual starting lineup was:
Dida
Abate T.Silva Nesta Antonini
Pirlo Ambro
Seedorf
Pato Borrielo Ronaldinho
We finished 3rd that season, 7 points behind 2nd placed Roma.

Biggest problem with 4-2-fantasia was Pato and Dinho rarely tracked back. So getting caught on the counters was rather normal and it doesn't make any better when Pirlo and Ambro are the DM's.

Here is a video of all 60 goals we scored under him in Serie A:
Spoiler:

But at Inter he used a 4-3-1-2. Used 4-2-1-3 on some occasions.

IMO I loved his attacking football. But he is usually outclassed by stronger tacticians.

Here's an article from Gazzeta Dello Sport back from 2010 on his coaching style:

The current formation has 4-2-3-1 as platform. Leonardo is a young coach and as a Brazilian he loves attacking football.

He was a higlhy talented winger so it's obvious that his teams try to play football in such a way. Last season he used in Milan 2 MC, he used Pirlo as AMC and he used Huntelaar and Ronaldinho as well. In some cases he used all of his attacking minded players in the squad and he just used two MC, who weren't even defensive midfielders. So this attacking overload was called from Galliani - Milan's Vice President-as 4-2-Fantasia.

Leonardo managed some very impressive results with the current formation. Maybe its utopic to use in modern football this kind of formation but reality shows the opposite. Since he took over Inter this season he tried to create something simmilar.
In the backline Ranocchia, Chivu, Maicon and Zanetti created a solid backline. In MC, Cambiasso and Stankovic were the MC, Sneider as AMC Pandev as left winger, Eto'o in the right wing and upfront Pazzini or Milito. So he made the same but this time his formations were much more balanced and he tried to play attacking football in an orthodox way. However his basic idea remained the same: attacking, unpredictable football, quick tempo and velocity touch football.

Leonardo has win many fans with his fancy style from the bench. As a coach he shows that he has become wiser and more mature after 1,5 year in the benches. Time will show the real potential of coach Leonardo. One thing is for sure: His attacking ideas and his fluid play is a big shock for conservative narrow minded italian football. Ask the teams who faced these formations how they felt. Not so comfortable I bet.

For sure when you play derbies you need to be more pragmatist and on the ground. The biggest difficulty when you play dominating football is how you will open up a tight defence.
This tactic is ideal to open hard and tight defences especially when you team is fast and technically gifted. I recommend this tactic to the users who take quality teams but for some reason their teams are not productive enough.

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4-2-fantasia - Imported from his experience with Milan, Leo did use it against Samp and from the first minute against Cagliari.
4-3-3 - The trident with three center forwards. This move was used in Bari, but the goals came when Sneijder entered for Milito.
The Christmas tree - The 4-3-2-1 was seen against Bayern Munich. They lost the game but created many opportunities.
4-2-3-1 - A already known system to the Inter players and was used by Inter against Fiorentina.
4-3-1-2 - Also used against Roma in the 5-3 win. The most beloved formation for the Inter coach.

Milan - It will be two months at Inter tomorrow. Two months and five paintings, mostly about winning. Leo will be at Inter two months and his paintings, the paintings of Leonardo, are all about important and versatile players. These modules represent his tactics either at the start of games or during. With fantasia or trident, Mou-system or the Christmas tree. They all have been used. From Inter-Napoli January 6 to Inter-Genoa March 6, Leonardo is the architect to hunt down Milan.

Trident Five different modules, from the first minute or during the game, to search for the right attitude and to find the key to attack and defend with full arsenal. Leo has always said: "I have a versatile team that can play in many formations and with players who can fill multiple roles." The examples are many: Thiago Motta who can play in the center or on the side, Nagatomo either left or right (in Genoa), Eto'o also on the right (in Florence), Zanetti whom Leonardo can use him anywhere, Cambiasso is almost the same, Kharja as central midfielder or as a trequartista, Chivu on the left or as central defender. In short, versatility is the key. The only system that hasn't worked well is the 4-3-3 and one example is against Bari. "I like playing with three strikers," said Leo but that system is rarely seen and used (and rightly so).

Fantasia and Pandev And then there is always the "4-2-fantasia" as kryptonite to all the defenses even though that it didn't go well against Juve (Eto'o hit the crossbar instead of an empty net) but it did against Sampdoria and Cagliari. That formation was his label at Milan and at Inter, he has been preparing Sneijder and Kharja. Another token that allows him to prepare his 4-2-1-3 is Pandev and the idea of bringing him off the bench has been used often.

Cambiasso, tree and Mou In all this, it should be noted about the important of Cambiasso on the field. It is not a secret that he is the "translator" (with gestures and references) on the field when changes were made between those who decide (Leo and Baresi) and who will do them. There is also the Christmas tree formation with two trequartisti behind one lone striker. This move was forced to make against Bayern due to the absence of Pazzini. They did create many chances even though they didn't score. In addition there is the 4-2-3-1 that was often used by Benitez and Mourinho but the favorite of Leo is the 4-3-1-2 with Sneijder behind Eto'o and Pazzini. With that, Leo will form a team against Genoa and he is also dreaming about it in Germany with the miracle return of Milito.

Source: Gazzetta dello Sport


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Post by sportsczy Mon May 27, 2013 8:59 pm

Thanks dude Thumbs up

The tactical edge comes from experience... he doesn't have a lot. But maybe we'll see if he's learned.

Ibra and a suspension may stop him from taking the bench at PSG.
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Post by sportsczy Tue May 28, 2013 1:04 pm

http://www.marca.com/2013/05/28/futbol/equipos/real_madrid/1369739149.html

PSG do not want to let Carlo go. Bronzetti is now trying for the 3rd time and has gotten no response.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:27 pm

Le Parisien is reporting that Laurent Blanc has agreed to a 1-year deal. Now, PSG is going to meet one last time to see if they can change his mind... if not, Blanc it is Laughing

Not the worst choice. He'll do fine.
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Post by sportsczy Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:50 pm

So many weeks later Laughing...  Options are

1-  Leonardo if his appeal goes well on June 20
2-  one of Laudrup, Hiddink or AVB despite what you hear to the contrary.  Nobody wants rumors to go crazy so they're saying what they need to say.
3-  Laurent Blanc
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Post by sportsczy Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:42 pm

PSG having a hard term with their 1 year contract requirement... ffs just offer 2 and fire them after 1 year if needed lol.

AVB is being talked about... but he's going to need more than 1 year too imo.

I like Wenger... but not enough to throw a whole season away lol.
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Post by spanky Tue Jun 18, 2013 8:59 pm

sportsczy wrote:PSG having a hard term with their 1 year contract requirement... ffs just offer 2 and fire them after 1 year if needed lol.  

AVB is being talked about... but he's going to need more than 1 year too imo.

I like Wenger... but not enough to throw a whole season away lol.

RIP PSG
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 19, 2013 12:33 pm

So now apparently Capello has accepted the 1-year deal PSG are only willing to give. We'll see. This obsession with Wenger next summer could turn out to be a disaster...
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 19, 2013 4:58 pm

Capello said no apparently :facepalm:

PSG and their 1 year disaster :facepalm:

You can't go to a top manager and offer them something like that unless they don't have a job ffs. Blanc would probably take it and you know why... he doesn't have a job!

I will Laughing if Wenger signs an extension in 3 months.
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jun 19, 2013 7:46 pm

Meh... it actually looks like PSG don't give a shat right now (training camp for International players starts on July 15) and won't budge on the 1 year deal to Capello. Capello apparently knew very well that the deal would only be for 1 year and still had his son, who is his agent, show up in Paris today for a 4 hour meeting with Leonardo to negotiate.

The feeling is the Capello wants to see if he can get the compensation up and also would want to give the Russian Federation a courtesy call before making a decision.

Other info is that PSG are still keeping the door open on AVB and may offer him a 2-year contract and close the door on Wenger. There's internal discussion about whether the risk of waiting on Wenger is becoming too expensive for the club.

This is all according to Di Meco on BFM TV.
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Post by fatman123 Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:02 am

Please take VillyB, just give him what he wants, forget Wenger
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Post by sportsczy Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:50 am

Blanc almost done on a 1 year deal. Expected to be done today.
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