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Post by Onyx Fri May 03, 2013 10:27 am

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Real Madrid vs Valladolid discussion.

Saturday 4th May.


Past 2 meetings:


Away - 8th December 2012: Valladolid 2-3 Real Madrid

Away - 14th March 2010: Valladolid 1-4 Real Madrid



Injuries/Suspensions:

Real Madrid - Arbeloa, Marcelo, Albiol and Ramos.

Valladolid - No injuries/suspensions.




Valladolid last 3 league results:

Valladolid 1-1 Sevilla
Granada 1-1 Valladolid
Valladolid 2-1 Getafe


Valladolid current league position: 12th.

1. Barcelona - 85 points
2. Real Madrid - 74 points
3. Atletico Madrid - 68 points
4. Real Sociedad - 58 points



REAL MADRID SQUAD:
Goalkeepers: Casillas, Diego Lopez and Jesus.
Defenders: Varane, Pepe, Coentrão, Carvalho and Nacho.
Midfielders: Khedira, Kaka, Özil, Xabi Alonso, Essien, Modric, Callejon and Di Maria.
Forwards: Cristiano Ronaldo, Benzema, Higuain and Morata.

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Post by SuperMAG Fri May 03, 2013 11:02 am

So disgusted that jese is not being promoted even for these dead rubbers. And he is suppose to be in the squad for next season while he gets 0 minutes this season.

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Post by Zealous Fri May 03, 2013 11:24 am

Castilla needs Jese more than the first team atm.
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri May 03, 2013 12:59 pm

BS

Castilla are already safe. I don't understand why he never gets the tiniest chance of featuring for the first team. Even Casemiro did

Oh wait we didn't actually buy Jese. stupid me for thinking he could play Rolling Eyes
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Post by Valkyrja Fri May 03, 2013 2:23 pm

So we don't promote Jese because Castilla needs him ? :facepalm:
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Post by sportsczy Fri May 03, 2013 2:25 pm

Toril and Mou don't like each other. Castilla players suffer as a result.... just unfortunate. Jese criticized Mou and supported Toril, which basically blacklisted him.
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Post by Kamikaze692 Sat May 04, 2013 8:42 am

There's a bigger chance of Iker starting than Jese being promoted :coffee:
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat May 04, 2013 2:58 pm

shit game but we won
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Post by buddytaller Sat May 04, 2013 4:56 pm

It was a very exciting game, Modric was again a beast, man of the match in my opinion. Pepe and Carvalho though were just terrible poor defending for 90 minutes. I thought Benzema played very well, he showed again today, why he should have started against BVB, I have no doubt he'll start the CDR final.

Di Maria and Kaka had very good games, Ronaldo was Ronaldo and Higuain did nothing in his brief cameo, all in all a thoroughly enjoyable match, despite little being at stake.
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Post by Le Samourai Sat May 04, 2013 6:20 pm

Disgraceful from the fans. If Higuain is to leave the club - then he should leave with his head held high. He's a player that has given 100% every moment he's worn the shirt and never complained, and one who has most whole-heartedly bought into Madridista identity and culture. Booing him is not only unnecessary, it's downright blasphemous.
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Post by buddytaller Sat May 04, 2013 6:32 pm

It's not the first time the fans have booed a manager or player, neither would it be the last. The culture of booing players especially those who're not home-grown has come to stay and there's little that can be done, even Ronaldo was booed last season when they thought he performed poorly in an el clasico at the Bernabeu.
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Post by Le Samourai Sat May 04, 2013 6:49 pm

buddytaller wrote:It's not the first time the fans have booed a manager or player, neither would it be the last. The culture of booing players especially those who're not home-grown has come to stay and there's little that can be done, even Ronaldo was booed last season when they thought he performed poorly in an el clasico at the Bernabeu.

Yes, this is not news to me. What surprises me is that they would boo him. He is thought of as homegrown, as a madridista at the core. Booing people like Ronaldo is understandable.
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Post by LeSwagg James Sat May 04, 2013 7:03 pm

Missed the match, was he booed because of his poor performance in this game? Or did it have something to do with Dortmund?
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Post by buddytaller Sat May 04, 2013 7:10 pm

He was booed when he was subbed on for Benzema, obviously due to his performance from the Dortmund game.
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Post by guest7 Sun May 05, 2013 1:07 am

Booing no player is understandable and this again shows why I over time I've started disliking our idiotic fanbase.
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Post by sportsczy Sun May 05, 2013 1:37 am

I don't like the booing... but the fans are always right. They have the right to do what they want as long as it's not against the rules. In Madrid especially... the fans own the club.

I think everyone in Madrid is just sick and tired of Mou. They will lash out at him and anyone they feel is in his circle of influence. Irrational as far as putting Higuain in that group... but it is what it is.

I blame Mou for Higuain's failure against Dortmund. His choice was bad. The player himself gave it all he had.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sun May 05, 2013 1:55 am

I don't remember hearing Higuain get booed when he was subbed on. On the other hand there were large boos when he hit that tame effort straight at the keeper on the counter.

Its obviously wrong of them to boo but you can't deny him being below par this season. I think Benz only just escaped it due to his game vs Dortmund. I don't think the fans are very happy with the two of them. Ronaldo got booed last season when he had thoss horrible games vs Barca and he improved. Carvalho got booed when he had that horrendous first half and Mou has been booed due to his tactics vs barca. It might be ugly but they do it for a reason. They don't boo you for having one bad game, quite the contrary actually they boo you for having many bad games and you can't deny Higgy fitting into that criteria

Hopefully this will wake him up
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Post by sportsczy Sun May 05, 2013 3:51 am

Benz got a standing ovation when he left the pitch. So no, he didn't just escape boos lol.
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Post by chad4401 Sun May 05, 2013 12:37 pm

must benzema always be drag through the mud just to make higs fanboys feel better? the fans are booing higs for consistantly missing 1v1 when it matters just get over it, class player but he chokes a lot and mou is a douche
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Post by Zealous Sun May 05, 2013 12:46 pm

I'm against booing in general but usually boos from the Bernabeu go to players who obviously aren't putting enough into it which is why Higuain getting whistled surprised me.

I mean fair enough if you think his time at the club has reached the end of it's cycle, there's nothing wrong with that. However I think a guy like Higuain who has practically grew up here as a footballer at Madrid and has been nothing but a positive influence on this club deserves more than being booed.

Booing isn't anything new sadly and fickle fans will be fickle but like I said I don't think players who give 100% all the time should get booed. That's just not fair and sends the wrong message to the players.
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Post by Le Samourai Sun May 05, 2013 12:47 pm

chad4401 wrote:must benzema always be drag through the mud just to make higs fanboys feel better? the fans are booing higs for consistantly missing 1v1 when it matters just get over it, class player but he chokes a lot and mou is a douche

It goes the other way as well.

The boos may have something to do with performance, but I believe they were initiated because of the reports that he is leaving this summer.Which is the very reason why he should not be booed.

If he is to leave he should do it on good terms with everyone, he has done alot for us, played an integral part in some of the best comebacks I've ever witnessed - and he will always be a Madridista at heart. Booing him, of all people, makes absolutely no sense. Boo someone who doesn't play for his teammates, boo someone who isn't trying, don't boo the guy that consistently does both.
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Post by Zealous Sun May 05, 2013 12:51 pm

It's been established that the Bernabeu crowd are fickle long ago, they're temperamental and for better or worse quite spoiled. I do think they will redeem themselves towards Pipita though before the season is over. I think overall he is a fan favourite but with the wave of negativity surrounding the club after the Dortmund exit people aren't thinking straight when it comes to players.
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Post by Zealous Sun May 05, 2013 12:52 pm

chad4401 wrote:must benzema always be drag through the mud just to make higs fanboys feel better? the fans are booing higs for consistantly missing 1v1 when it matters just get over it, class player but he chokes a lot and mou is a douche

Wut? Who mentioned Benzema? lol
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Post by sportsczy Sun May 05, 2013 1:00 pm

HM2 did Z on last page...

But in any case, i don't like booing unless it's justified. For example, CR7 saying he's "unhappy" deserved to get booed. Mou for being a general arse to all of Spain lol deserves to get booed. Any player that looks like he's walking out there deserves it too.

But otherwise... if you're gonna boo, stay home and do it.

Neither Benz nor Higuain deserve any boos right now. Benz deserved it when he got fat; but not since. These 2 guys have it harder than any top shelf CFs in the world. Yet they've never said one harsh word in public about anyone or each other... always stayed very pro.

When and if Higuain leaves (i think it's stupid if you're just going to buy another WC CF btw and create the same situation), then he should be cheered and thanked. He's given it everything he has.
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Post by chad4401 Sun May 05, 2013 1:02 pm

agreed higs is a class player and tbh i never really forgave him for that lyon game, its been hard to cause he hasn't proven anything after that(CL)

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