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Post by Valkyrja Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:05 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:5-3-2 and sitting back vs Celtic wasn't negative? hmm

Was an effective tactic though.

It's called tactics. A team should adapt their tactics to the team they play against, to make their match easier, and Conte did exactly that(he has seen Barca-Celtic for sure, when Barca had 80% possession and did nothing). That's why everyone knows how to play against Barca, because bar possession, they don't know anything else. I've seen Juve in the past 2 seasons, playing both possession style and counter attacking.

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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:06 pm

Fabulous goal. I still have no idea wtf Mexes is doing though.
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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:15 pm



at 2:19 dat tiki taka Proud
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Post by Albiceleste Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:16 pm

Bayern
Barca
Madrid
Dortmund

Barca-Dortmund
Bayern- Madrid

Barca-Madrid

you know what happens next

Spoiler:

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Post by Cassius Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:20 pm

likeastar wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:5-3-2 and sitting back vs Celtic wasn't negative? hmm

Was an effective tactic though.

It's called tactics. A team should adapt their tactics to the team they play against, to make their match easier, and Conte did exactly that(he has seen Barca-Celtic for sure, when Barca had 80% possession and did nothing). That's why everyone knows how to play against Barca, because bar possession, they don't know anything else. I've seen Juve in the past 2 seasons, playing both possession style and counter attacking.
Fantastic response.

Conte was just showing how versatile our system is and how we can play different styles of football. You know, like how a proper manager should do? Vary his tactics depending on the opponent, where it's being played ect.

Iv also seen Juventus totally dominate possession one match them totally sit back and counter the next.

Also is it just me or was juve's away performance vs Celtic one of the best tactical performances in recent times? It couldn't of home any better. Loads of people thought we'd struggle at Celtic park but we won convincingly 3-0 :coffee:

If mou does it tactical masterclass, anyone else does it it's negative tactics Laughing
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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:22 pm

@ LM

But what if he has a "flu" aka Varaneitis again? eco smile

Rafa actually has ownership of some of Messi's image rights now, if Barca ever sell Messi a portion of the fee would have to be given to Varane.
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Post by Albiceleste Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:24 pm

Varane doesnt speak portuguese though hmm surely marcelo coentrao and pepe will be preferred over him :coffee:

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Post by Onyx Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:27 pm

When Mourinho did it, it was negative too imo.

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Post by Valkyrja Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:29 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:When Mourinho did it, it was negative too imo.

What Barca does is the same IMO, but the difference is that they are doing it with the ball at their feet. Tons of passes in their own half are the same with parking-the-bus tactics

LE : if you're calling Catenaccio, anti-football, tons of passes in your own half is anti-football too.


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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:30 pm

Albiceleste wrote:Varane doesnt speak portuguese though hmm surely marcelo coentrao and pepe will be preferred over him :coffee:

The ostracism has yet to affect young Rafa but who knows. Ostracism works in mysterious ways hmm
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Post by S Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:31 pm

Albiceleste wrote:Bayern
Barca
Madrid
Dortmund

Barca-Dortmund
Bayern- Madrid

Barca-Madrid

you know what happens next

Spoiler:

You are such a Clasico Fanboy.I feel like deep down you have some 'passionate' love for Madrid or something :coffee:
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Post by Onyx Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:31 pm

likeastar wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:When Mourinho did it, it was negative too imo.

What Barca does is the same IMO, but the difference is that they are doing it with the ball at their feet. Tons of passes in their own half are the same with parking-the-bus tactics.

They only pass in their own half when teams press them. Usually they look to dominate in the opposition's half.

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Post by Albiceleste Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:32 pm

likeastar wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:When Mourinho did it, it was negative too imo.

What Barca does is the same IMO, but the difference is that they are doing it with the ball at their feet. Tons of passes in their own half are the same with parking-the-bus tactics.
dafuq am i reading

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Post by Valkyrja Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:33 pm

Yohan Modric wrote:
likeastar wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:When Mourinho did it, it was negative too imo.

What Barca does is the same IMO, but the difference is that they are doing it with the ball at their feet. Tons of passes in their own half are the same with parking-the-bus tactics.

They only pass in their own half when teams press them. Usually they look to dominate in the opposition's half.

Pressing is part of football, a big part. It's the same with Barca's progressive style, but without the ball. For example you press them, win the ball, and then shoot. Isn't it the same with starting with the ball from the keeper to the opposition's box and shoot ? It's all about movement, with or without the ball.
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Post by Onyx Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:36 pm

Barca's style is to keep the ball. If when they're getting pressed they attempt to pass into the opposition half, they could lose the ball. I doubt they'd compromise.

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Post by Albiceleste Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:36 pm

likeastar wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:When Mourinho did it, it was negative too imo.

What Barca does is the same IMO, but the difference is that they are doing it with the ball at their feet. Tons of passes in their own half are the same with parking-the-bus tactics

LE : if you're calling Catenaccio, anti-football, tons of passes in your own half is anti-football too.
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Is this the same as "parking the bus/anti-football" to you?

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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:38 pm

List of players on a yellow/serving a suspension:

Barcelona

Alex Song
Javier Mascherano
Pedro Rodriguez(suspended 1st leg)
Adriano

Bayern München

Javi Martinez(suspended 1st leg)
Dante
Philipp Lahm

Galatasaray

Selçuk Inan
Nordin Amrabat
Burak Yilmaz
Albert Riera
Dany Nounkeu

Juventus

Claudio Marchisio
Arturo Vidal
Stephan Lichsteiner

Malaga

Manuel Iturra
Sergio Sanchez
Martin Demichelis

PSG

Blaise Matuidi
Thiago Silva
Zlatan Ibrahimovic(suspended 1st leg)
Ezequiel Lavezzi

Real Madrid

Xabi Alonso
Sergio Ramos


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Post by Valkyrja Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:39 pm

Albiceleste wrote:
likeastar wrote:
Yohan Modric wrote:When Mourinho did it, it was negative too imo.

What Barca does is the same IMO, but the difference is that they are doing it with the ball at their feet. Tons of passes in their own half are the same with parking-the-bus tactics

LE : if you're calling Catenaccio, anti-football, tons of passes in your own half is anti-football too.
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Is this the same as "parking the bus/anti-football" to you?

That's one phase, from one match, and they played 250+ matches.
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Post by Doc Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:41 pm

Zealous wrote:

at 2:19 dat tiki taka Proud

Haven't watched that goal in some time and I'm only now seeing the vast amount of space that was given to Higuain in the build up to the goal. I assume that space was void of Nani I suppose...



Messi's goal was still better though Sad
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:42 pm

Juve, Dortmund, Real, PSG

Juve and PSG calls are based purely on a hunch, I call Bayern to dominate and get hit on the counter, going out on away goals. PSG to bully Barca into submission, and Ibra to make an offensive comment after the match.
This is based on nothing I have observed in the matches this season, it is purely a gut feeling.
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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:42 pm

Nani plays CB? eco smile
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:43 pm

Why would anybody actually want a Classico Final? If we played Inter 16 times in two seasons I would be sick to fkn death of the sight of them.
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Post by Zealous Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:43 pm

So no one wants to talk about how Bayern, Juve and PSG have some important players on a yellow?
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Post by Albiceleste Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:44 pm

likeastar wrote:
Albiceleste wrote:
likeastar wrote:

What Barca does is the same IMO, but the difference is that they are doing it with the ball at their feet. Tons of passes in their own half are the same with parking-the-bus tactics

LE : if you're calling Catenaccio, anti-football, tons of passes in your own half is anti-football too.
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Is this the same as "parking the bus/anti-football" to you?

That's one phase, from one match, and they played 250+ matches.
Doesn't really matter because they played the same way in all 250 of those matches.

You're talking like it's FIFA13 or something, you can't just endlessly pass the ball in your own half as a means of "parking the bus/antifootball" Laughing

cant even believe im replying Laughing ridiculous


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Post by Doc Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:45 pm

Zealous wrote:Nani plays CB? eco smile

With 11 men, Utd would have slotted Nani in his more natural position...
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Post by S Fri Mar 15, 2013 5:49 pm

Zealous wrote:So no one wants to talk about how Bayern, Juve and PSG have some important players on a yellow?

Good chance of seeing Licht and Vidal pickup yellows in the 1st leg.If thats the case i would hope to see Caceres play at RWB instead of Padoin with Pogba filling in for Vidal ofc.I think we have able backups imo(obviously not as good but they arent scrubs either) in case these aforementioned players get suspended.
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