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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 3:55 am

Palace 5 is a massive downer. One of the worst things I've played in the last year, really tedious dungeon.

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Post by Thimmy Fri May 12, 2017 4:25 am

Firenze wrote:Palace 5 is a massive downer. One of the worst things I've played in the last year, really tedious dungeon.


I agree. Worst palace, by far.
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Post by Jay29 Fri May 12, 2017 9:23 am

Yup, Palace 5 and the whole story around that is considered the weakest part of the game by a lot of people. Though as a set-up of what's to come it's not too bad.


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Post by Freeza Fri May 12, 2017 9:29 am

When you had to travel away from a couple days and can't play Sad

About to fight boss 5.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 12, 2017 11:24 am

Is the 5th palace the one with the awful air shaft puzzle?

I decided I'm not gonna replay the game because of that lol.

I didn't mind it apart from that though.
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Post by Freeza Fri May 12, 2017 12:35 pm

The puzzle wasn't that hard Laughing
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Post by Jay29 Fri May 12, 2017 1:31 pm

The whole place is just annoying. Three big puzzles, plus a lot of going back-and-forth and annoying enemy types. Not hard as such, but very tedious.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 12, 2017 1:53 pm

It's not that it's hard, it's that it's incredibly annoying and pointless.

I hate puzzles which end up in a maze of some sort anyway. Bane of my *bleep* existence, i always get lost without fail.
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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 1:59 pm

I was just annoyed with the air shaft puzzle and constant backtracking in general, I'm right at the end though. Didn't help that I was solving that puzzle at 3:30am like a zombie. I'll use a guide for it on my second playthrough so it shouldn't be too hard. A guide was pointless last night becuase I'd already done half of it before getting stuck, that said I looked online and almost everyone is saying it sucks and it took them like 30+ mins, I did it in about 10-15 lol mostly just winging it. Still really annoying.
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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 4:02 pm

palace boss 5 is annoying AF too with the waves
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 12, 2017 4:08 pm

Found it pretty easy once i figured it out tbh, it's a grind but you shouldn't die really.
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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 4:37 pm

omg *bleep* the 5th palace boss wtf



pure horeshit, gotta go through a huge bs gauntlet and then it brings out that BS boss at the end when I have like half SP, it just 1 shot all of my chracters after 20 mins

the game is great but the bosses are bollocks because they never have any weaknesses and just become a battle of attrition
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 12, 2017 4:49 pm

You should prepare better and have extra SP to replenish yourself imo.

Don't think it was that hard tbh, 4th palace boss is by far the hardest I have played personally.

Rest have been pretty easy.
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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 4:56 pm

thankfully I had Miracle Punch on my character and Morgana to cheese it with, made it easy with no SP

hated everything about Palace 5
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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 4:57 pm

tbf I did jump into this Palace, did it in 3 game days/2 trips and I didn't prepare at all, true. I know to actually buy stuff next time, lol. All of the palaces were easy until now though.
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Fri May 12, 2017 5:00 pm

I always prepare lol, it's the Witcher 3 in me lol.

Also they give you so many days that there is literally zero point in rushing through the palaces tbh.
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Post by Jay29 Fri May 12, 2017 5:53 pm

My approach to bosses/enemies without weakness is to go purely physical. I have a healer (usually Morgana) to keep the health up, and have the PC go pure support (with a Persona that isn't weak to the boss so he doesn't get *bleep*). Buffed up Ryuji and Yusuke can dish out tonnes of damage.

Other approach: get Ann strong enough to know Fire Amp and Fire Boost (+75% damage for fire skills), use Concentrate (double damage) then a fire move. She'll dish out damage in the 1000s. Even without Concentrate and Fire Amp she'll do huge damage.

Haru can dish out huge damage as well with her Gun skills + boosts.

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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 10:56 pm

Jay is a true you can buy Aluminum sheets eventually at the second hand shop? I'm in October already, mid October. Trying to build the eternal lockpick, got all the Liquid Mercury which is apparently the thing ppl usually have to grind, got a few in Mementos but I still need 12 sheets, saw a few comments from ppl saying you can buy them eventually but I don't want to skip grinding for them to find out you can't

Also what's the deal with being able to fuse these Ultimate Persona from maxing confidants that aren't in your party? game told me I could craft a couple of the strongest persona of a certain class, I thought that meant I could fuse them instantly but I didn't see their names in the fusion lists hmm
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Post by Jay29 Fri May 12, 2017 11:16 pm

I'm pretty sure I remember aluminium sheets in the pawn shop. You can only buy three at a time though.

Ultimate Persona are fused the same way regular Persona are. Some are special fusions so need more than two, while some are just fusions of two high level Persona. The required levels are usually anything between 60 and 96 though Laughing So unless you have the Strength confidant maxed out and tonnes of cash, chances are you won't be fusing most of them on the first playthrough. Though I guess you could grind the Reaper if you have the time/will until you're strong enough

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Post by Firenze Fri May 12, 2017 11:32 pm

ah that sucks, unless they start throwing mad XP at me I imagine I will finish first playthrough at lvl 60 or so at most. I'm at 8 or 9 for the Strength Confidant though.

though not too bothered, will 100% be doing a second playthrough
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Post by Thimmy Fri May 12, 2017 11:56 pm

I've gotten almost all of the ultimate personas through Network Fusion :coffee:
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Post by Firenze Sat May 13, 2017 12:01 am

What was that trick you mentioned about Network Fusions? do you just reload your save like a pos?

I've used it like 15 times and only gotten something a lvl or two higher than mine, nothing great, I use Arsene once a day (think that's what you said to do)
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Post by Thimmy Sat May 13, 2017 1:19 am

Firenze wrote:What was that trick you mentioned about Network Fusions? do you just reload your save like a pos?

I've used it like 15 times and only gotten something a lvl or two higher than mine, nothing great, I use Arsene once a day (think that's what you said to do)


Yeah, that's exactly what I've been doing. And no, I don't save and reload, but I suppose that should work as well. All of my characters are level 100, though.. I don't know if it grants personas above your level.
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Post by Firenze Sat May 13, 2017 2:05 am

Jay, did you do all the videogames for the trophy? Power of Intuition wtf is this garbo, all been easy minigames and the controls for this are horrific, tried like 5 times

edit: finally beat it..the last level is ridiculous ffs, did it in like 5 attempts though, seen ppl raging online saying they sold the game because of it rofl
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce Sun May 14, 2017 2:38 am

3 hours of going through the palace and randomly die from one hit BS and now I have to do it all over again because there was no safe room.

Nah m8.
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Post by Firenze Mon May 15, 2017 2:44 pm

that sounds horrific if true, hoping you missed a safe room

I'm in the 6th palace now just about to enter November, should finish it this week

JAY, equipped items carry over you said right? anything you recommend buying before going into NG+

I have to admit I've barely looked at buying any high end gear from shop's
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