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Post by BeautifulGame Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:11 am

Group One

Barcelona
Manchester City
Celtic
Marseille
FIXTURES - Aug 17: Marseille v Celtic.
Aug 31: Celtic v Barcelona.
Sept 14: Man City v Barcelona; Celtic v Marseille.
Sept 28: Barcelona v Marseille.
Oct 5: Marseille v Man City.
Oct 19: Man City v Celtic; Marseille v Barcelona. Nov 2: Barcelona v Man City.
Nov 9: Celtic v Man City.
Nov 23: Man City v Marseille; Barcelona v Celtic.

Group Two


Liverpool
Sporting Lisbon
Molde
Wolfsburg

FIXTURES - Aug 17: Liverpool v Sporting.
Aug 18: Molde v Wolfsburg.
Aug 31: Sporting v Wolfsburg; Molde v Liverpool. Sept 14: Liverpool v Wolfsburg.
Sept 21: Sporting v Molde.
Sept 29: Liverpool v Molde.
Oct 5: Wolfsburg v Liverpool; Molde v Sporting. Oct 19: Wolfsburg v Sporting.
Nov 2: Wolfsburg v Molde.
Nov 23: Sporting v Liverpool.


Group Three


FC Basle
Tottenham
PSV Eindhoven
Inter Milan

FIXTURES Aug 17: Basle v Tottenham.
Aug 31: Basle v PSV; Tottenham v Inter Milan.
Sept 14: Inter Milan v PSV.
Sept 28: Inter Milan v Basle; PSV v Tottenham.
Oct 19: Basle v Inter Milan; Tottenham v PSV. Nov 2: Inter Milan v Tottenham; PSV v Basle.
Nov 23: Tottenham v Basle; PSV v Inter Milan.

Group Four

Ajax
Rosenborg
Aston Villa ~
Fenerbahce

FIXTURES Aug 24: Ajax v Rosenborg; A Villa v Fenerbahce.
Sept 7: Rosenborg v A Villa; Ajax v Fenerbahce.
Sept 21: A Villa v Ajax; Fenerbahce v Rosenborg.
Oct 5: Rosenborg v Ajax; Fenerbahce v A Villa. Oct 12: Rosenborg v Fenerbahce.
Nov 2: Fenerbahce v Ajax; A Villa v Rosenborg.
Nov 23: Ajax v A Villa.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2010047/Spurs-Villa-Man-City-Liverpool-mini-Champions-League-fixtures.html


Would be great to see how our(Liverpool) youngsters fare against some of the best youth teams in Europe.


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Post by Eman Fri Jul 01, 2011 5:25 am

No...Arsenal? Sad

Seriously though, this should be interesting.
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:33 am

So on what basis are the teams decided?
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Post by Guiltybystander Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:44 am

Oh! Ajax! Nice Very Happy
Who do you guys think will win?

Barcelona and Ajax the obvious ones probably, with their youth programs. But many other good contestants.
PSV has a crap youth.

Some interesting teams there though.Wonder if we will spot any new talents. Scout-fest.


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Post by REWB Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:46 am

they are decided by who actually wants to join
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Post by Nishankly Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:54 am

How can you write off Liverpool?

Even Guardiola knows we can compete with LA Masia.. :coffee:
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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:59 am

RedEyesWhiteBeard wrote:they are decided by who actually wants to join

Oh lol, is the demand to play it that low?

I was actually hoping we'd compete, as it is the competition has hardly drawn a better squad list than the Champions Youth Cup which flopped.

Hopefully it fares better and we will see more teams jump on the bandwagon.
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:39 am

Just be glad Mainz and Dortmund aren't in. :coffee:
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Post by Serge Gnabry Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:42 am

True Viva.

Didn't Dortmund even cancel all friendlies and tournaments against English teams after they just started to buy their best prospects after playing them?
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Jul 01, 2011 11:44 am

I don't remember that, I just thought it'd be funny if Mainz and Dortmund just turned up with 90% of their actual first teams, because most of them should be eligible for an u19 tournament still... Very Happy
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Post by M99 Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:34 pm

So how are the teams decided?
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Post by BeautifulGame Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:02 pm

Teams are based on invitation by organizers.Since this is the first year of competition only 16 teams are participating.There was an article in daily mail about how teams were invited iam sure i will post once i find it.
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Post by Ali Sat Jul 02, 2011 2:00 pm

Eman wrote:No...Arsenal? Sad

Seriously though, this should be interesting.


they didn't invite us to make it fair for the other teams :coffee:
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Post by Khaled Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:40 pm

Deulofeu (17, Winger)
Dongou (16, CF)
Rafinha (18, AM/false 9)
etc..

will do it for Barca Smile

Visca La Masia <3 Very Happy
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Post by BeautifulGame Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:13 pm

For everyone asking how qualification are determined here's the article.Since its been a brain child of english men i would presume Tottenham and Villa got invitation and readily accepted.Also some high profile teams like United and Arsenal are expected to join next year.Ajax is the 16th team joined this year.Finals will be played in Dubai probably Man city influence i presume.

Manchester City will face Barcelona in the headline fixture of a Champions League-style tournament for Under 19s this season.
Liverpool, Tottenham and Aston Villa are also in the tournament, dubbed the NextGen Series, which will consist of 16 clubs in four groups. City have also been paired with Celtic and Marseille.
After England’s disappointing first-round exit from the Under 21 European Championship, the competition is seen as the ideal platform to improve the quality of opposition for younger players and give them valuable experience of an elite competition.

Manchester United, Arsenal and Chelsea are waiting to come in next season, along with Ajax.
The inaugural line-up has been determined by invitation and recommendation, influenced by the quality of each club’s academy. There is one more place to be confirmed. NextGen is the brainchild of former Watford academy manager Mark Warburton and will pit some of the best young sides in Europe against each other home and away in a tournament that will start in August with the knockout stages in January. Sportsmail revealed how the project was being formulated last year when Manchester City played Ajax in a friendly in Amsterdam. City are considered to be major players in the development of this tournament as they increase their profile around the world.

All the fixtures are yet to be finalised but it is understood that Villa are in a group with Norway’s Rosenborg and Fenerbahce of Turkey, and City and Barcelona will face Celtic and Marseille. The top two teams in each group will go forward to a finals competition. TV rights are being negotiated and the finals could be staged in Abu Dhabi. Warburton, a former professional footballer who established the Harefield Academy and helped Watford become the first English professional club to combine full-time academic learning and football, pioneered the competition to help prepare promising young players for top-level football. He is now sporting director at League One club Brentford, and said: ‘Apart from the exceptional few who jump straight to the first team, many promising young players graduating from academies were not provided with enough consistent high-quality football challenges.

Although the costs will be high, clubs have jumped at the idea as they look to improve the quality of players graduating from their academies and, crucially, tempt top young players from other clubs with the chance of playing in Europe.
Liverpool and Chelsea are among the clubs to have raised concerns about the level of investment in their academies and how it has failed to correlate with the end product. Now they hope this can help bridge the gap in the development of young stars.
It is expected that the competition will grow as more heavyweight clubs rush to join in. The early European Cup, launched in 1955-56, also started as a relatively small competition and then mushroomed.
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Post by Swanhends Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:22 pm

Get in Inter!!!
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Post by Interista809 Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:36 pm

I am tipping Rodrigo Alborno to win the player of the tournament.
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:51 pm

Erikssen ftw!
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Post by Swanhends Sat Jul 02, 2011 5:53 pm

guiltybystander who were you on the old forums?

totalvoetbaal? smoochy?
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Post by BeautifulGame Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:33 pm

TBH i am more excited about this than the domestic cups we are involved.Dont think TV deals will be struck this year so hopefully there are live streams available to watch.
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Post by Guiltybystander Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:40 pm

bhends wrote:guiltybystander who were you on the old forums?

totalvoetbaal? smoochy?

I was guiltybystander there too! But was only there since, methinks, March? Or April?
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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Jul 20, 2011 3:54 pm

Found an article explains some issues about the tournament like why the likes of United and Madrid are part of the tournament.

Sportsmail's Simon Jones answers the key questions after revealing the news that Premier League sides Manchester City, Tottenham, Aston Villa and Liverpool will be part of the NextGen Series - a Champions League style tournament for Under 19 teams...


So, the NextGen Series. A Champions League tournament for teenagers. Can you throw a few ringers in?


No, not quite. The organisers want to lay down strict guidelines for the Under-19 tournament but, similar to the Under-21 set-up, they will allow three players over-aged players (no older than 20) to join the squad. The idea is to encourage the use of younger players too, such as 16-year-old Raheem Sterling at Liverpool.

Where are they going to play? In the park next to the swings?

Er, no. NextGen want the tournament to mimic the Champions League where possible. Fenerbahce and Molde want games to be played in their grounds and Liverpool may allow their first match to take place at Anfield depending on pre-season fixtures. Celtic will try to use Celtic Park but Manchester City's stars of the future will walk out at Hyde's ground for home games. Playing at smaller venues is seen as a good idea if it helps generate good crowds and provides a good atmosphere.

Why aren't Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United in it?

Organiser Mark Warburton, who is also Brentford's sporting director, and his business partners already had good relationships with certain clubs from his academy days at Watford. That has played a part in the initial invites but plans are afoot to bring in other teams from next season if all goes well as they look to expand to 24 teams. As Liverpool, Aston Villa, Tottenham and Manchester City are already in the competition there was a strong desire to bring in more foreign sides to improve the variety of opposition.

So, how often will they be playing?

No, It will be similar to the Champions League, with fixtures starting from September 15 and scheduled for two or three week intervals. There are four groups of four teams who will play each other home and away. So that's six games each up until the end of November. The top two teams from each group will go through to a finals tournament in January that is likely to be held in Abu Dhabi.

But does this mean the end for reserve teams?

No. Manchester City have stopped playing in the reserve league but it is to tailor the needs of their elite development squad. City academy director Mark Allen said: 'Far from the reserves going away, it is actually getting stronger and more focused, and what the fans will see is more relevant football for that development stage.' As Warburton points out it is more to do with consistency of opposition. Some clubs do not want their young players turning up to face a load of first teamers coming back from injury. They believe playing against similar level opposition on a consistent basis is more beneficial.

Can I watch it on the telly?

Negotiations are underway but due to scheduling demands it is more likely to be on an ad hoc basis if at all this season. There may be a deal sorted for the finals. Clubs wanted flexibility with fixtures so that it doesn't cut across any domestic programme either. Strict TV scheduling would get in the way just now. If the tournament is a success then next year may see more TV coverage.

Won't it just be a feeding frenzy for the big clubs to lazily pick up the best talent?

It is to an extent but some of the clubs taking part such as Molde and Sporting Lisbon rely on producing good young talent to keep their club alive. They often have to sell and this is an ideal showcase for any talented players coming through. By the same token, if you are young and already playing in a top level tournament you may decide this club is where you should stay.

What's the main objective? Money?

The more cynical fans may think that. But clubs have struggled to agree to it in the first place because of the expense of taking teams round Europe and putting them up in hotels. As Chris McCart of Celtic's youth set-up said: 'Our purpose is to try and develop a Champions League player and it will expose them to that and replicate what that’s like at first-team level. We are confident the players will gain experience which will be vital to them in terms of the style of play and the travelling. We can also offer players the opportunity of playing against the likes of Barcelona and Man City on the big stage and in stadia, so it’s excellent from our recruitment point of view, too. We have signed up to it for the next three years and we are really excited about it.'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2006964/Q-A-NextGen-Series.html#ixzz1Seo5U6fg
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Post by BeautifulGame Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:02 pm

Bump.

The tournament starts tonight.Tonight's matches(All BST timing):

* Ajax v Aston Villa (7pm, De Toekomst)
* FC Basel v Spurs (7.30pm, Stadium Rankhof)
* Liverpool v Sporting Lisbon (8pm, Anfield)
* Marseille v Celtic (8.30pm, Stadium Marcel Cerdan)


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Post by Guest Wed Aug 17, 2011 4:49 pm

No Madrid no party Smile

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Post by :{Mr.Mustachio! Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:21 pm

Crimson wrote:No Madrid, no Manchester United, no Juve, no Milan, no Bayern; no party Smile
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