Re: Old style Italian center forward: Pazzini

by BarcaLearning Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:14 am

Arquitecto wrote:Average one trick pony big game flop?

Yes considering he is one of the only CFs in Serie A who has scored against every team over two times? Half of Pazzo's goals with Milan were game saving goals as yesterday is just an example. Why hold little praise for his clutch ability which saved launched Sampdoria to 4th spot (along with Cassano) and how he has been prolific for Milan in launching us from relegation to 3rd? Or where he brought Sampdora down 3 agg. goals only to have his team go out on away goals via Pizzaro

Why criticize him for being a one-trick pony? He is ambidextrous, possess highly intelligent movement, is clutch, one of the classic headers of the ball who rely less on power and more on acute angles and accuracy. How about his volleying technique or that he scored from 20 yards while hobbling on one foot? Or the fact that he moves less than a goalkeeper yet is consistent in his finishing? See his goals this season.

Cassano has been quite good this season yet Pazzo has been far better and has many more years on him.

Even Inzaghi's lack of technique was a myth. Another two-footed, expert volley-er with expert finishing and there hasn't been a more intelligent or clutch striker since then. His goal v Barca in the Joan Gamper was just an example.

Poaching isn't dead as most modern strikers don't realize a damn thing about exploiting and opening channels and that you CAN score even if you are in poor form. Its a lost art that guys like Gomez, Huntelaar, Pazzini, Borini, Klose, etc are carrying.

Qualities such as these in-box intelligence and instincts cannot be taught

Another good read... just goes to show nothing is definite in football... just when I thought the pure poacher is dead Razz

Although obviously for a poacher to be successful, he needs to be in a team thats built for it... I always thought an ideal team should have different players good at different things, and this is one thing Barca missing now definitely, Villa used to be it, but not effective anymore...

by Milantildeath Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:01 am

danyjr wrote:I'm afraid it is not even for debate. The difference in their technique, vision and intelligence is like comparing Thiago Silva to Carragher. If we're talking about versatility, Cassano can play in centre, behind the striker or on the side while Pazzini is an average one trick pony poacher type player who scores a handful against crappy teams and flops consistently against good teams.

Oh, and celebration what?

Spoiler:

I remember the first time I smoked pot also :facepalm:

by •MilanDevil• Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:35 am

Pazzini is our perfect replacement for pippo, I honestly couldn't have asked for any better.

by InteristAli Tue Apr 30, 2013 8:29 am

I think most of you are underplaying what Cassano did with inter this season. He was brought in and alot of people were under the impression that he was going to play with Sneijder behind Milito, Coutinho and Palacio were considered back up. This way not all the creativity will fall on Cassano.

What happened? Sneijder and Coutinho got sold, which meant EVERYTHING fell on Cassano, creating goal scoring opportunities and what not. Granted, Sneijder didnt play alot before being frozen out but Milito really made a difference before his injury. I mean whenever i watched an inter game, it was hell if Cassano didn't play, because whenever he did play he would make a difference, even if he wasnt 100% or not in form. oh and palacio was a beast untill his injury too.

Which brings me to the point of who got the better deal. I'd say both, inter got a playmaker from Cassano and milan got a goal scorer from Pazzini. If you gave me the option now, I would make the same choice... we got 7 million too

by Milantildeath Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:47 pm

Pazzini did more for Milan in the game against Catania than what Cassano has done for Inter all season.

by InteristAli Wed May 01, 2013 12:35 am

If you don't have something useful to post, don't

by Milantildeath Wed May 01, 2013 12:55 am

InteristAli wrote:If you don't have something useful to post, don't

Explain how that is not useful, it's fact

by Kaladin Wed May 01, 2013 1:01 pm

by Swanhends Wed May 01, 2013 1:53 pm

Milantildeath wrote:Pazzini did more for Milan in the game against Catania than what Cassano has done for Inter all season.

Congrats on outing yourself as not having watched Inter this season

by Milantildeath Wed May 01, 2013 3:31 pm

Swanhends wrote:
Milantildeath wrote:Pazzini did more for Milan in the game against Catania than what Cassano has done for Inter all season.

Congrats on outing yourself as not having watched Inter this season

You obviously don't have the mental capacity to understand the complexity of my statement. Pazzini's two goals against Catania were more important to Milan than anything Cassano has done for Inter this season. Look where Inter are, and now look where Milan are. If Pazzini doesn't score those two goals, we practically lose the race for the champions league spot. I can guarantee nothing Cassano has done this season is even remotely as important. Yes, to direct your statement, I watch almost every Inter match.

by zizzle Wed May 01, 2013 3:47 pm

It's okay Milan fans, enjoy it while it lasts, we too had a hard on for pazzini in his first season, but then we needed him to actually play football and the rest is history..

by Swanhends Wed May 01, 2013 3:53 pm

Milantildeath wrote:
Swanhends wrote:
Milantildeath wrote:Pazzini did more for Milan in the game against Catania than what Cassano has done for Inter all season.

Congrats on outing yourself as not having watched Inter this season

You obviously don't have the mental capacity to understand the complexity of my statement. Pazzini's two goals against Catania were more important to Milan than anything Cassano has done for Inter this season. Look where Inter are, and now look where Milan are. If Pazzini doesn't score those two goals, we practically lose the race for the champions league spot. I can guarantee nothing Cassano has done this season is even remotely as important. Yes, to direct your statement, I watch almost every Inter match.

Serie A alone:

Assisted go-ahead goal and cushion goal in 3-2 vs Sampdoria
Assisted go-ahead goal in Inter 2-1 Napoli
Assisted equalizing goal in Inter 1-1 Genoa
Assisted go-ahead goal in Inter 2-0 Pescara
Scored go-ahead goal in Inter 2-0 Catania

by InteristAli Wed May 01, 2013 3:57 pm

Swanhends wrote:
Milantildeath wrote:
Swanhends wrote:

Congrats on outing yourself as not having watched Inter this season

You obviously don't have the mental capacity to understand the complexity of my statement. Pazzini's two goals against Catania were more important to Milan than anything Cassano has done for Inter this season. Look where Inter are, and now look where Milan are. If Pazzini doesn't score those two goals, we practically lose the race for the champions league spot. I can guarantee nothing Cassano has done this season is even remotely as important. Yes, to direct your statement, I watch almost every Inter match.

Serie A alone:

Assisted go-ahead goal and cushion goal in 3-2 vs Sampdoria
Assisted go-ahead goal in Inter 2-1 Napoli
Assisted equalizing goal in Inter 1-1 Genoa
Assisted go-ahead goal in Inter 2-0 Pescara
Scored go-ahead goal in Inter 2-0 Catania

No he means he scored the last game, therefore the most important :facepalm:

by BarrileteCosmico Wed May 01, 2013 4:10 pm

Honestly don't see what the debate is all about. Inter have a known lack of creativity so they needed someone like Cassano. Milan needed a somewhat prolific goalscorer. They each got what they needed. Who cares which one was the "best" signing? They've both been successful.

by Milantildeath Wed May 01, 2013 6:38 pm

Pazzini kept Milan in third place with those goals, and Cassano did what for Inter???

by Kaladin Wed May 01, 2013 6:43 pm

Bit harsh imo, looking at Inter's squad...Kuzma, Schelotto, Gargano and Rocchi..a bit hard to reach aspirations with those in the starting XI
Not to mention the amount of injuries they've had over the season

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