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Post by ericalism Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:14 am

If Chelsea continues playing like this,this guy will be sacked sooner or later :brickwall:
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Post by Rebelles.REUS.rex Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:33 am

potentially gayest post ever :facepalm:
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Post by lszanto Thu Nov 08, 2012 5:50 am

2nd in the league due to being robbed against United, progressing through to next stage in CL. Why would he be fired? The team is changing the way it plays, of course there is going to be some hiccups along the way as the players adjust and have to change the way they play.
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Post by Red Alert Thu Nov 08, 2012 7:07 am

Di Matteo has truly impressed me.

Personally thought he was a 'fraud' and was very lucky in the CL in the last year (which got him the job), and whilst Chelsea did invest heavily, I feel Di Matteo has done very well thus far. It will be interesting to see if he can keep it up.
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Post by dronte Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:22 am

lszanto wrote:2nd in the league due to being robbed against United, progressing through to next stage in CL. Why would he be fired? The team is changing the way it plays, of course there is going to be some hiccups along the way as the players adjust and have to change the way they play.
Their progression is far from guaranteed though.

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Post by huntsman Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:27 am

He's doing a good job so far.
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Post by juventus101 Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:04 am

Yea, progression for Chelsea is far from guaranteed. Juve still have a good chance actually. We need 4 points from these next two games. We should beat Chelsea in Torino and sceape a draw in Donetsk.
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Post by fatman123 Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:10 am

juventus101 wrote:Yea, progression for Chelsea is far from guaranteed. Juve still have a good chance actually. We need 4 points from these next two games. We should beat Chelsea in Torino and sceape a draw in Donetsk.

Chelsea can go to Turin and park the bus and draw 0-0 and then need to beat nords at home to get through
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Post by juventus101 Thu Nov 08, 2012 11:13 am

Knowing Chelsea they might just do that, but hopefully they wont. And if they dont, i think we can definitely beat them.
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Post by ericalism Thu Nov 08, 2012 1:50 pm

I don't deny that Chelsea has done a not-bad job in this season so far,but which I think is due to more all the quality players RDM has ----like Oscar,Hazard......let alone the German Messi still stored in the bench----than his ability as a manager.
And give the performance as a team Chelsea showed to the world last night,I really doubt their prospect of reaching the knockout stage,will they become the first defending champions to miss out on qualifying from the group stage,hope not :coffee:

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Post by Onyx Thu Nov 08, 2012 3:28 pm

Thought Di Matteo would just be another average manager and struggle, however he's been impressive.

Haven't seen the Shakhtar match, but Chelsea have played some good football this season.

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Post by Blue Barrett Thu Nov 08, 2012 4:38 pm

ericalism wrote:I don't deny that Chelsea has done a not-bad job in this season so far,but which I think is due to more all the quality players RDM has ----like Oscar,Hazard......let alone the German Messi still stored in the bench----than his ability as a manager.
And give the performance as a team Chelsea showed to the world last night,I really doubt their prospect of reaching the knockout stage,will they become the first defending champions to miss out on qualifying from the group stage,hope not :coffee:
You're just grasping at straws here, mate.

Basically your point is that Chelsea's position this season has got nothing to do with Di Matteo? Laughing

"will they become the first defending champions to miss out on qualifying from the group stage"

Errr.....so far the odds are stacked in our favour. Don't see how that means we could get knocked out.
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Post by ericalism Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:28 pm

Well,what do you guys say now? :coffee:

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Post by lszanto Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:34 pm

ericalism wrote:Well,what do you guys say now? :coffee:

We need a striker?

Quite simply if we had a proper striker we wouldn't be in this position. Look at united, their team is horrid yet gets carried because RVP/Rooney can finish.
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Post by Blue Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:42 pm

lszanto wrote:
ericalism wrote:Well,what do you guys say now? :coffee:

We need a striker?

Quite simply if we had a proper striker we wouldn't be in this position. Look at united, their team is horrid yet gets carried because RVP/Rooney can finish.

Lack of strikers doesn't explain all the goals we have conceded.

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Post by lszanto Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:45 pm

Blue wrote:
lszanto wrote:
ericalism wrote:Well,what do you guys say now? :coffee:

We need a striker?

Quite simply if we had a proper striker we wouldn't be in this position. Look at united, their team is horrid yet gets carried because RVP/Rooney can finish.

Lack of strikers doesn't explain all the goals we have conceded.


I couldn't care less about conceding goals if we were winning. We're losing/drawing to midtable clubs(West Brom/Swansea/Pool). We subbed off Azpi for Moses because we needed more attacking power, straight after we concede a goal, concidence?
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Post by Red Alert Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:39 am

Please please please don't get sacked.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:43 am

I think today he learnt a lesson. Dont use false 9 if you dont have good possession of the ball, otherwise it loses its effectiveness.

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Post by Raptorgunner Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:03 am

The Franchise wrote:I think today he learnt a lesson. Dont use false 9 if you dont have good possession of the ball, otherwise it loses its effectiveness.

I dont think he had any choice really.

I can see him getting fired this weekend if City beat them.
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Post by LeBéninois Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:06 am

Raptorgunner wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I think today he learnt a lesson. Dont use false 9 if you dont have good possession of the ball, otherwise it loses its effectiveness.

I dont think he had any choice really.

I can see him getting fired this weekend if City beat them.

How wrong you are. and who is going to take his place ??
He won't be sacked until he get a proper goalscorer. If he gets one and fail to produce results then he may be sacked
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Post by Red Alert Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:09 am

Benin, rumours going around Roman is looking for a new manager and Rafa is on the hit list. Hence why I don't want Di Matteo to get sacked. Sad
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Post by Donuts Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:15 am

Thought they were after Guardiola o,o if they were they wouldn't sack Di Matteo now, Chelsea would wait till summer :p
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Post by Red Alert Wed Nov 21, 2012 1:17 am

Roman doesn't have the patience to wait until the summer. Half his sackings have been during the course of the season.

Pep may go to City as City has just hired Txiki Begiristain as their DoF.
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Post by donttreadonred Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:26 am

Di Matteo is a bit of a conundrum to me. On the one hand, I can't say that I've seen anything typically attributed to "coaching" and "tactics" that has blown me away. On the surface, he appears to play a fairly standard formation (about as typical of a 4-2-3-1 as you will see) and pick players who are traditionally rated higher. Arguably his most controversial decisions both came against Juventus: first, to play Oscar in the tie at the Bridge, and secondly NOT to play Torres at the new Juventus stadium. One worked a treat, the other... well… It's hard to blame this result on that decision, but he hardly got the other tactical changes right, either.

On the other hand, while Chelsea may be on a bad run, they are far from out of the race for the Prem League, and they could still progress in the UCL. Then, there is always the “success” argument, stating that we should all be blinded by the trophy he won. It’s actually a valid argument in this case. We may not all have enjoyed watching their success last season, but he did get results in knockout competitions. In addition, I think he’s done an excellent job managing egos. He’s managed to not only calm an unruly dressing room after AVB’s departure, but he’s also managed to bed in several new, young players coming from different leagues and different countries. That’s no small feat.

I have actually been surprised by the number of goals conceded by Chelsea in the Prem League this season. Those defensive frailties may be the cause should Di Matteo be sacked this campaign. I think Chelsea will sign a high-profile striker from somewhere this January, and I think RDM will be around to see the effects of that signing. However, if they continue to ship goals and drop out of contention from the Prem League race, I can see Abramovich making yet another managerial change. While RDM has certainly not been an abject disappointment, I don’t think he makes Chelsea better. The very best clubs have managers that are “game changers” in and of themselves. Their tactical acumen, their preparation, their in-game changes, maybe even their presence allow their teams to perform better thanks to their actions. I simply don’t see that with RDM. I simply see a competent manager… nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by The Franchise Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:21 pm

Raptorgunner wrote:
The Franchise wrote:I think today he learnt a lesson. Dont use false 9 if you dont have good possession of the ball, otherwise it loses its effectiveness.

I dont think he had any choice really.

I can see him getting fired this weekend if City beat them.

Really? Couldnt of used Torres?

I dont rate him at all, but any striker is a better choice than that.
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