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Post by VivaStPauli Sun Nov 11, 2012 11:55 pm

BTW I'm so done betting on our stupid league Very Happy

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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:54 am

VivaStPauli wrote:BTW I'm so done betting on our stupid league Very Happy

You might as well give me the money, who bets on the most competitive league in the world...?
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Post by the xcx Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:01 am

History teaches us that Bundesliga is not really competitive.
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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:11 am

Nameless wrote:History teaches us that Bundesliga is not really competitive.


Do you understand this doesn't really mean I am saying it's the best league in the world, but the league is very competitive, it's hard to predict who will win a match or even win the league.


But then again, it's even debatable if Bundesliga is currently the best league in the world. Looking at champions league performance all 3 Bundesliga teams currently top their group, groups which includes Madrid, Valencia, Arsenal, City etc.



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Post by rwo power Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:40 pm

Nameless wrote:History teaches us that Bundesliga is not really competitive.
For once I have to agree with The Messiah here. Non-competitive Dortmund took 4 points of Real and only drew unluckily against ManCity, while similarly non-competitive Schalke managed to get 4 points of Arsenal...
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Post by juventus101 Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:52 pm

Yea, anyone that thinks the Bundesliga is not conpetitive is an idiot. Schalke, Dortmund, and Bayern are all tearing Europe up. Hannover and Leverkusen are both doing very well in the Eyropa League. Hamburg and Werder are both also usually strong in Europe. And theres a different.Bundesliga champion almost every year.
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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 12, 2012 12:56 pm

rwo power wrote:
Nameless wrote:History teaches us that Bundesliga is not really competitive.
For once I have to agree with The Messiah here. Non-competitive Dortmund took 4 points of Real and only drew unluckily against ManCity, while similarly non-competitive Schalke managed to get 4 points of Arsenal...


Just to add to your point, Bundesliga club have lost just 1 match so far in champions league, if I am not mistaking La Liga have lost 3 matches, of which 2 defeats are in the hands of budesliga and all thanks to Bundesliga prodigy(Oezil) who rescued La-Liga from 4 defeats to 3.


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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:05 pm

All Bundesliga needs now is just another team to rise up, currently you have Bayern, Dortmund and Schalke 04 who are nearly evenly matched, we need another team to step up, so we can become absolute beast in champions league.


I had high hope in BMG, but everything fell apart after Dante left for Bayern, Reus for Dortmund and Neustädter for Schalke 04. that's equivalent to losing your best defender, midfielder and attacker to 1st 2nd and 3rd best club in the league.



Werder Bremen and Leverkusen have the most potentials now, but they simply can not hold on to their best players.


I also believe if Schalke 04 are to play Madrid at the moment, they will also beat them.
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Post by The Messiah Mon Nov 12, 2012 1:29 pm

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I hope by the end of the season Frankfurt are replaced by Bayern Leverkusen, I also hope either Dortmund or Schalke 04 comes out 4th, reason being that we are guaranteed of 4 Bundesliga teams in cpl next season. I don't want inconsistent teams in that 4th position, we need a team that will surely qualify.
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Post by urbaNRoots Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:36 pm

http://www.bild.de/sport/fussball/lewis-holtby/forderte-300-prozent-mehr-gehalt-27194890.bild.html

Reports that Lewis Holtby has asked for 300% pay rise to sign new deal. Horst Heldt said in press conference today that he "couldn't confirm" that.

He's on €1.5m at the moment.
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Post by VivaStPauli Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:15 pm

Well it's in Bild, so it's probably a lie, but for the sake of argument, if it's true, it's a pretty ballsy demand.
Sure, I guess all young players will want a raise with every contract they sign until they hit their prime, but 300% is harsh, especially in a club like Schalke. This seems like the gamble of someone who wouldn't mind playing for another club next season, which is a damn shame, Holtby has been brilliant for the club so far.
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Post by la bestia negra Thu Nov 15, 2012 4:19 pm

agent claimed thesse are false demands
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Post by VivaStPauli Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:23 am

Well, since it was in Bild, it was to be expected to be false ;D
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Post by Red Alert Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:29 am

Come on Hyypia. :bow:
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Post by Bellabong Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:07 am



Now I know why Bayern signed Martinez specifically.

Schweinsteiger needed a basketball partner.
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Post by urbaNRoots Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:40 am

Schweinsteiger is a beast in Basketball (and football Laughing)

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Best coach in the league :coffee:
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Post by S Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:07 pm

btw Dortmund only need a a point out of their last two games to qualify for the knockouts.

Although i believe they have a good chance of topping their group.

If Madrid draw tomorrow and Dortmund win,they'll be confirmed group toppers.Easier said than done though.
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:23 pm

Wouldn't have thought that before the group stages. But well done Dortmund
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:35 pm

They can still crash out though, so I won't say anything yet. But they've already done exceptionally well, despite being incredibly unlucky with their last-minute draws against Real and City.
Though at least Real deserved that equalizer, unlike City.

I hope Dortmund and Madrid make it through, I like Ajax as well, but those two deserve it the most. City can go last for all I care.
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Post by rwo power Tue Nov 20, 2012 7:06 pm

Well, I shall keep my fingers crossed for all German teams, as usual. Go Bayern, Dortmund & Schalke! (strictly alphabetical order Razz) Plus the ones in the EL, but that is only Thursday, of course.

Talking of EL, this reminds me: Go Basel! (even though not a German team, but then, they have the cutest goalie Heart )
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Post by VivaStPauli Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:39 pm

Side note: every time I have to endure them, Spanish teams annoy the hell out of me. The amount of dives I saw from Valencia was ludicrous, and in the last 30 minutes, Webb even let them get away with it for the most part. Disgusting.

That being said, Bayern were cartoonishly harmless in front of goal today. The goal they did score was neat, though.,
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:41 pm

Spanish teams are the worst considering diving and unfair play
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Post by The Messiah Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:45 pm

Valencia played well, I am happy Muller scored that goal to put us through to the next round and of course topping the group head to head. according to Uefa.com


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Post by The Messiah Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:45 pm

I am also happy to see super Mario back.
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Post by Die Borussen Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:50 pm

had they won bayern would finish 2nd?
dat would be sick, to see already a top clash at the round of 16

oh well nevermind..

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Post by halamadrid2 Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:51 pm

BAYERN_MUNICH wrote:Spanish teams are the worst considering diving and unfair play

tbh you have to give it to Valencia, only started their antics very late in the second half, was a man down yet looked like they were a man up

if you think feigning injuries in the last quarters is anything compared to what they do in LaLiga you are mighty wrong, usually when they lead against us they start wasting time in the early first half, they should get a nobel price for how long it took them to waste time. That said they should not do it and they should be punished for doing it i am all for that. Think Dante used up all his chances on staying on the pitch tbh, could have easily been sent off, he didnt back down afetr his first yellow but he wasnt as stupid as barragan tholol
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